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Bush coming to OC to talk on immigration
Orange County Register ^ | 4/20/06

Posted on 04/20/2006 9:12:02 PM PDT by Ladycalif

President George W. Bush is likely to get a large welcome from the county's highly vocal anti-illegal immigration activists when he comes to Irvine on Monday morning to pitch his immigration plan.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; bush; calvisit; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; irvine; presidentbush
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1 posted on 04/20/2006 9:12:03 PM PDT by Ladycalif
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To: Ladycalif; Bikers4Bush; janetgreen; dennisw; gubamyster; nomad; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; SandRat; ...

ping


2 posted on 04/20/2006 9:12:46 PM PDT by Ladycalif (She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain. -- Louisa May Alcott)
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To: EternalVigilance

Ping...


3 posted on 04/20/2006 9:13:14 PM PDT by Gelato
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To: Ladycalif

Ya see, we need amnes...er, I mean a guest worker program because....



Yeah. Right. It's a religion of peace too.


4 posted on 04/20/2006 9:13:18 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Procrastinators of the world UNITE!!!.....Tomorrow.)
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To: Ladycalif; Gelato

Wow, what a coincidence...

/extreme sarcasm


5 posted on 04/20/2006 9:15:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The emperor is wearing virtual clothes as he sits on his virtual fence!")
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To: Ladycalif
Monday morning to pitch his immigration plan

He should pitch it in the Pacific while he is so close to it.

6 posted on 04/20/2006 9:17:00 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Ladycalif

What language will he be speaking?


7 posted on 04/20/2006 9:17:48 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20)
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To: Ladycalif

He is putting out the "WELCOME" Mat.


8 posted on 04/20/2006 9:18:16 PM PDT by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: Ladycalif; Gelato

You guys are the greatest.

Not too many cause such a political stir that they force the President of the United States to come and respond to them.

Congratulations to you and the others who have made it all happen.

Minutemen rock!


9 posted on 04/20/2006 9:18:40 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The emperor is wearing virtual clothes as he sits on his virtual fence!")
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To: Ladycalif

OC is something like 1/3rd Hispanic


10 posted on 04/20/2006 9:21:24 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: kerryusama04

"What language will he be speaking?"

Que--Jorge


11 posted on 04/20/2006 9:24:16 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Look at profile for current ways to deal with illegals/criminals)
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To: Ladycalif

No info on who he'll be speaking to?

Will it be the usual scripted and tightly choreographed event with a hand picked, pre-screened audience of loyal supporters?

Gotta show the cameras how enthusiastically the common folks support W's
immigration plan.

Yep, it's gonna be a regular small Town Hall meeting. Full of sponteneity, candor
and extemporeneous speechmaking by W.


12 posted on 04/20/2006 9:24:19 PM PDT by primeval patriot
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To: Ladycalif; Kenny Bunk

Investing more negative political capital to make more negative political capital.

Is this a Rove plan? Like that 60 day SS reform tour?


13 posted on 04/20/2006 9:25:56 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: primeval patriot

truth bump


14 posted on 04/20/2006 9:27:47 PM PDT by teldon30 (Far right, elitist, sexist, cynical religious bigot and looter)
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To: Rick_Michael
Lo siento. Que' idioma habla Presidente Jorge el Lunes?

It's no news flash that W (doble ve) is weak on the border. He never claimed to be otherwise. I'm absolutely irate with the Senate.

15 posted on 04/20/2006 9:29:05 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20)
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To: Ladycalif

I expect to hear Bush once again slander the American worker by saying illegals do jobs Americans won't do. Instead, Bush ought to admit the truth: that the traitors who hire illegal aliens won't hire Americans because illegals can be paid less.


16 posted on 04/20/2006 9:29:11 PM PDT by Holden Magroin (Why do we need a guest worker program when we have open borders?)
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To: Ladycalif

Hmmm...ya think he'll go on John and Ken's show?


Bwahahahahahaha......


17 posted on 04/20/2006 9:29:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The emperor is wearing virtual clothes as he sits on his virtual fence!")
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To: Ladycalif

Thanks for the ping....


18 posted on 04/20/2006 9:30:04 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ladycalif

OC/Irvine is like a white alamo. It's where the richer whites from LA want to live in gated communities to keep the "riffraff" out.

A bunch of Arrianna Huffington limousine liberals who are always preaching about speaking for the poor, but never consort with them unless they are cutting their grass or washing their cars.



19 posted on 04/20/2006 9:30:41 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There are lots of LEGAL Asian immigrants in Irvine.

Generally, they're none too happy with the ILLEGAL ALIEN situation.

I can think of a couple of 'em that I'd love to see question the President.

They'd make mincemeat out of him...


20 posted on 04/20/2006 9:32:06 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The emperor is wearing virtual clothes as he sits on his virtual fence!")
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To: Torie

Got a front row seat?


21 posted on 04/20/2006 9:32:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The emperor is wearing virtual clothes as he sits on his virtual fence!")
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To: EternalVigilance

No. I am not a member of the Lincoln Club anymore. My connections are attenuated. I oppose Bush on his illegals proposals. I have my plan. He has his. Gilchrist has his. All three are different. Out of many, many. Cheers.


22 posted on 04/20/2006 9:36:18 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

I don't think Irvine has any gated communities. It wasn't in the Irvine Company plan. So many suburbs, so little time. Cheers.


23 posted on 04/20/2006 9:38:52 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Holden Magroin

This is really getting to be over the top. Please explain how insulting a man who is standing up to terrorists and done more to stop them then any other President is going to solve the border problem?
As to the so called amenesty issue, guess what, something like it is going to happen.The majority in this country will not stand for massive deportation. And the courts won`t go for it either. AND MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT.
As for slandering the American worker,who is kidding who? We have almost no unemployment. If we throw out the current farm workers, are freepers going to pick strawberries? Yeah, right.
But, it`s your right to say anything you want, even if it makes no sense.


24 posted on 04/20/2006 9:40:24 PM PDT by bybybill (RATS WIN, WE LOSE)
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To: Ladycalif
The Senate, House and White House are seriously confused about what is at issue and what is at stake here.

The issue of a guest worker program is completely separate from the issue of illegal aliens.

We have a guest worker program. It may need to be reformed but illegal aliens are those who have not applied to be guest workers. There are 11 million of them. (or more) The only thing needing reform now concerns illegal aliens and border security. We need to enforce the existing laws respecting the presence and employment of illegal aliens and border security.

Border security is the number one problem in this debate. The flood of illegal aliens is a major factor in relation to our lack of border security but it is only one factor. There is also a matter of national security in a time of war and in an age when terrorists have set their sights on inflicting mass destruction on our society.

After the issues of border security and millions of illegal foreign nationals on our soil the matter of guest workers is very small. Until the first two problems are thoroughly and firmly addressed the guest worker issue should not even be discussed.

Immigration and a guest worker program are separate issues from the above.

The President the Senate and the House need to get that message with unambiguous resolve.

Secure the border!

Crack down on employers!

Deport illegal aliens.

Bring in immigrants who have been waiting for years with papers in hand!

Now is the time to put the pressure on!

"According to this new bill that's tied up in the Senate, illegal immigrants who can prove they've been here for two years would be allowed to stay. So follow the logic here. If you can prove you broke the current law for two years, you've protected under the new law." --Jay Leno


25 posted on 04/20/2006 9:44:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: bybybill
(RATS WIN, WE LOSE)

But we lose slower with Repubs, right?

26 posted on 04/20/2006 9:46:58 PM PDT by itsahoot (Any country that does not control its borders, is not a country. Ronald Reagan)
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To: bybybill

Good job!! So I'm not on the DU board after all.


27 posted on 04/20/2006 9:48:55 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: Holden Magroin
Bush ought to admit the truth: that the traitors who hire illegal aliens won't hire Americans because illegals can be paid less.

The spectacle of pro-illegals trying to advance their cause by sophistry, straw-men, bogus data, personal attack, and avoidance of discussion is a wonder to behold.

It would be so much easier on them if they could just say: "I make a mint off them, and you can't expect me to give that up!"

28 posted on 04/20/2006 9:49:14 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Ladycalif; All
I have been covering, psuedo-blogging, for years, a couple of the elements in WWIV ( III being the Cold War ), in which we find ourselves engaged.

The first element?

Islam, a Religion of Peace®? ( links, blogs, quips, quotes, aggravating pictures ) is located here- click the Pic, and scroll backwards:

The other, somewhat interlocking element is this one:

"Thunder on the Border," click the picture:



What is happening under the radar is that the alien lobby, certain elements of radical Islam, and some on the Left share common goals, tactics, and exploitations of our system and society.

Not a conspiracy, but rather a "coming together on common points." A confluence- becoming a tsumani...



29 posted on 04/20/2006 9:49:34 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Ladycalif

BTTT


30 posted on 04/20/2006 9:50:18 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
OC/Irvine is like a white alamo. It's where the richer whites from LA want to live in gated communities to keep the "riffraff" out.

Thanks to Presidente Bush, this time around Santa Ana is winning and not just at the Alamo...

31 posted on 04/20/2006 9:53:38 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: bybybill
As to the so called amenesty issue

So-called? Are you denying that amnesty is at issue?

Tell us, bybybill, do illegal aliens in some way directly contribute to your livelihood?

32 posted on 04/20/2006 10:01:33 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: EternalVigilance

It'll be interesting to see if Prez pulls out the "vigilante" card in Gilchrist's backyard.


33 posted on 04/20/2006 10:10:13 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Plutarch
No, never employed an illegal and don`t think it`s a good idea. But, I`m old enough to know that many of them are here and they aren`t going to get tossed out. The country has to figure out how to deal with it and I think the President is on the right track.
The bigger issue is how to stop more illegals. If the choice comes down to increased border control ( a fence) and earned "amnesty" or no action at all if there is "amnesty", is an easy call, at least for me.
Question: Why do you people have to insult some body with different views? Does that may you feel smarter? Or, could it be that you can`t make a counter argument/
34 posted on 04/20/2006 10:14:26 PM PDT by bybybill (RATS WIN, WE LOSE)
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To: bybybill
Why do you people have to insult some body with different views? Does that may you feel smarter? Or, could it be that you can`t make a counter argument/

Ask the open borders lobby.

In recent months, they've managed to call good patriotic Americans just about every name in the book.

36 posted on 04/20/2006 10:19:22 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The emperor is wearing virtual clothes as he sits on his virtual fence!")
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To: Thanx A. Lott

Where are the Rats?


37 posted on 04/20/2006 10:23:32 PM PDT by bybybill (RATS WIN, WE LOSE)
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To: bybybill
I`m old enough to know that many of them are here and they aren`t going to get tossed out.

Rounding up and tossing out tens of millions of people is indeed an impossibility, so the perferred plan is to get them to self-deport. And the way to do that is to heavily fine employers who hire them, cut off their taxpayer freebies, and repeal the anchor baby laws. There'd then be no incentive for them to stay. ...or to come in the first place.

38 posted on 04/20/2006 10:23:41 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Holden Magroin


39 posted on 04/20/2006 10:25:13 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: bybybill
Please explain how insulting a man who is standing up to terrorists and done more to stop them then any other President is going to solve the border problem?

Non-sequitur.

40 posted on 04/20/2006 10:25:47 PM PDT by primeval patriot
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To: bybybill
Question: Why do you people have to insult some body with different views?

I dunno. Did I do any insulting?

I asked about the livelihood because among Republicans it appears that only those with a financial stake in the peculiar interest of cheap illegal labor have any energy in the illegal cause. It is not a stance that springs up from conservative soil. Perhaps you are the exception.

41 posted on 04/20/2006 10:26:04 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Ladycalif

I love my Prez but on this issue all he does do is TALK. If something isn't done, there will be a civil war in this nation.


42 posted on 04/20/2006 10:27:29 PM PDT by no dems (Illegal Immigration? Congress best do something or look for a Civil War to break out.)
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To: EternalVigilance

[url=http://ocregister.com/ocregister/homepage/abox/article_1112749.php[/url]

Thursday, April 20, 2006
Bush to speak in O.C. on Monday
His Irvine stop is part of a weekend trip to California.


GERALD HERBERT, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


President Bush is extending his weekend trip to California to speak in Irvine on Monday on the volatile issue of immigration overhauls.
Bush will speak to the Orange County Business Council between 8 and 9 a.m. at the Hyatt Regency Irvine, 17900 Jamboree Road, according to Myal Greene, spokesman for U.S. Rep. John Campbell, R-Irvine.

The president has repeatedly said he favors a comprehensive approach to immigration overhauls, one that strengthens borders and includes a guest-worker program that matches “willing workers with jobs that Americans won’t do.” That position puts him at odds with many Republicans in Orange County, including Campbell, who plans to attend the Monday event in his district.

The majority of GOP House members oppose a guest-worker plan.

“The congressman sees this as an opportunity to share his concerns with the president,” Greene said.

Legislation to bolster border security, institute a temporary guest-worker program and provide a path to legalization for many of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the country stalled in the Senate two weeks ago. It is slated for further debate when the Senate reconvenes next week.

The House passed an enforcement-only measure in December.


43 posted on 04/20/2006 10:32:41 PM PDT by Ladycalif (She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain. -- Louisa May Alcott)
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To: kerryusama04
"Lo siento. Que' idioma habla Presidente Jorge el Lunes?

Yes, it's crazy. And yo habla Castillian Espanol, but I wonder if he wants regular Joe Blows to go to these planned demonstrations to hit on the Mexican babes hanging around. I was in Spain during the end of the cold war and only learned enough Spanish to pick up women in bars, restaurants, discos, beaches, etc.

There was a Communist demonstration in the Plaza Mayor en Madrid that had the prettiest women alive waving red flags around because they didn't have to go to the strict University of Madrid for a day for classes. We only had a few hours to spend with them before catching the train back to Torrejon de Ardos.

44 posted on 04/20/2006 10:33:16 PM PDT by BobS
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To: Ladycalif

I'm rather dreading hearing the speech. Because I'm pretty sure he's going to be saying things that make me regret ever voting for him. (and being in TX, I voted for him in both governor's races as well!). It's a real crummy feeling, considering how much I've supported him in the past. But his notions about amnesty/guest-workers is the cultural equivalent of surrendering to the terrorists, as far as I'm concerned. It just makes me ill to think about it. The country is being thrown away before my very eyes.


45 posted on 04/20/2006 10:37:48 PM PDT by greene66
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To: Ladycalif

Eagles Up! No Bush/Kennedy/McCain/Hillary amnesty!


46 posted on 04/20/2006 10:38:24 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Ladycalif
Bush will speak to the Orange County Business Council...

Whew! Sounds like a tough crowd to sell a guest worker plan to.

47 posted on 04/20/2006 10:38:47 PM PDT by primeval patriot
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To: EternalVigilance

Mentioning the OBL is frowned upon...be careful ;)


48 posted on 04/20/2006 10:38:58 PM PDT by teldon30 (Far right, elitist, sexist, cynical religious bigot and looter)
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To: Ladycalif

Could someone confirm whether the public will be allowed to ask questions?

If so, let's try and craft some interesting ones. They need to be short, self-contained, and difficult to weasel out of.

1. George P. Bush was scheduled to speak at the Dallas march on 4/09/06. Does that signify that the Bush family supports citizens of other countries marching in our streets demanding rights to which they aren't entitled?

2. Hundreds of thousands of citizens of other countries are marching in our streets and making a show of force. They demand that we change our laws to suit them. If we refuse to surrender, what are the chance that you think some of them will riot? Has your failure to secure our borders and oppose illegal immigration put the U.S. at great risk of civil disturbances?

3. On dozens of occasions, you've promoted your "guest" worker program. However, wouldn't our "guests" end up staying here permanently? Their children will be U.S. citizens, they'll buy homes and start businesses, and on and on. In short, nothing is going to make them leave. By calling it a "guest" worker program, haven't you simply been lying?


49 posted on 04/20/2006 10:46:37 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: greene66

You are correct. A friend of mine built cabinets until recently and was very good at it. He also knows masonry and cement and structural integrity. Undercut by cheap slaves that his employer and possible employer pays under-the-table. So- he's gaming the system. He's gaming the system now by what? Changed his name so he can collect welfare, food stamps, Social Security for doing nothing.


50 posted on 04/20/2006 10:48:08 PM PDT by BobS
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