Bush coming to OC to talk on immigration

Orange County Register ^ | 4/20/06

[Ladycalif]

President George W. Bush is likely to get a large welcome from the county's highly vocal anti-illegal immigration activists when he comes to Irvine on Monday morning to pitch his immigration plan.

[Jarhead1957]

The whole damn Republican Party forgot who put them there. I saw the e-mail list on a previous post and I am sending a simple message to each

It's The Borders, Stupid

I'm not sure they will understand.

[EEDUDE]

"I'm not sure they will understand."

No, I don't think they will.

Possibly not even after they've lost.

[California Patriot]

A demonstration for immigration reform. Respectful, though.

[primeval patriot]

This is from another post on this thread:

Yes, I saw that on post #43 and responded at #47.

[bybybill]

I`m sure Howard Dean will pay for the T shirt, I know my grandkids will.

[bybybill]

I forgot the code, what does OBL stand for?

[bybybill]

I agree, first we must close the border.

[RonDog]

See also THIS thread:

President Bush's California Itinerary [Protesters Plan To Follow Bush: April 21-24, 2006]
President Bush's California Itinerary ^ | April 21, 2005 | CBS News
Posted on 04/21/2006 9:55:24 AM PDT by RonDog

Apr 20, 2006 7:28 am US/Pacific

President Bush's California Itinerary

President Bush begins his four-day visit to California today. Here is his schedule.

FRIDAY (4/21)
Visits Cisco Systems in San Jose and talks with Silicon Valley executives about the American Competitiveness Initiative. After this even is when Governor schwarzenegger says he'll make a direct appeal to the president for federal help to repair the state's levees.

SATURDAY (4/22)
Tours the California Fuel Cell Partnership in West Sacramento, speaks on advanced transportation technology.
Attends a Republican National Committee fundraiser in Palm Springs.

SUNDAY (4/23)
Attends church service and has lunch with troops at Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center in Twentynine Palms.

MONDAY (4/24)
More events possible.

CLICK HERE for the rest of that thread

[BigSkyFreeper]

Are they able-bodied, on welfare with no job? Sure.

They're not doing it now.

If they're a teenager? Sure.

This country has slave labor laws.

I don't see how the question is relevent to those who are employed with decent paying jobs.

It's very relevant, you're just making excuses. The able-bodied folks that sleep 'til noon, then spend the rest of the day sitting on their duff in front of the TV set collecting welfare are just plumb irresponsible and lazy. What makes you think they'll go out and pluck strawberries or cabbage off a vine for 50 cents an hour? They get more from Uncle Sugar doing nothing. Get rid of the loopholes in the welfare system, and maybe these lazy bums would find some other means of earning their way through life. It's not just illegals cheating the system. People born in this country are cheating out the responsible, hard working, taxpaying Americans.

[La Enchiladita]

ping

[La Enchiladita]

Would you add me to your ping list?

It's talking me awhile but I'd like to become more active with MM, sending in my pledge today and hope to see off the caravan.

[pollyannaish]

Whether you agree with the President or not, it takes guts to head out there to confront it directly.

[pollyannaish]

LOL. I agree with you.

I'm thinking about starting to cross reference "there are no jobs Americans won't do" threads with "All we have are burger flipping jobs" threads.

[Kenny Bunk]

What makes you think they'll go out and pluck strawberries or cabbage off a vine for 50 cents an hour?

Big Sky, I know you're just indulging in a bit of hyperbole, but just for the record, these ag workers make a pretty damn good buck. Probably 2 or three times what the loafers are picking up (not counting crack sales, of course.) Lot of'em have no trouble picking up 35-40K per season!

Dirty Little Secret: Lots of pickers manage to go on welfare when they're not picking. That's what keeps'em here through the winter. You would also be amazed at how many manage to buy property!

[BigSkyFreeper]

Dirty Little Secret: Lots of pickers manage to go on welfare when they're not picking. That's what keeps'em here through the winter. You would also be amazed at how many manage to buy property!

Here's another dirty little secret. The ones that I'm aware of that plant and pick sugarbeets during the summer/fall in the Yellowstone and Missouri River Valley here in Montana and potatoes in Idaho, migrate south to pick other crops during the winter months. That's why they're called migrant or seasonal workers.

Some of these ag workers who are legal do pretty much the same thing. I know of this one family farm operation based not far from me, that goes as far south as Texas in the early spring to harvest grain, and they're back here in Montana to harvest their own crop in the early fall, moving northward through Oklahoma, Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska, Wyoming, and southern Montana, harvesting everything from wheat to corn. That's all they do for 8 months out of the year. Harvest.

[dirtboy]

Please explain how insulting a man who is standing up to terrorists and done more to stop them then any other President is going to solve the border problem?

Uh, Bush said those very words. How does repeating Bush's own statements insult him?

[Serenissima Venezia]

The issue of a guest worker program is completely separate from the issue of illegal aliens.

We have a guest worker program. It may need to be reformed but illegal aliens are those who have not applied to be guest workers.

That is the best summary of the issue I've heard. And will repeat, if you don't mind ;)

We could reform our guest worker program, but the current batch of people illegally residing in and taking from our country shouldn't qualify for it.

[BigSkyFreeper]

As to the so called amenesty issue, guess what, something like it is going to happen.The majority in this country will not stand for massive deportation. And the courts won`t go for it either.

Senator Kyl, who is against the Kennedy/McCain bill to begin with, even realizes that deportation is impractical.

[TigersEye]

Kind words indeed. Thank you! Please feel free to use whatever I write wherever and whenever you like. I'm not interested in credit I want action.

You will find a few more of my standardized posts on this subject here on the first page of JustPiper's outstanding thread "Stunning facts about the proposed immigration bill."

[Serenissima Venezia]

The bigger issue is how to stop more illegals

Do you think that giving the ones that are here amnesty will just encourage more to come? Look at the fiasco that happened the last time amnesty was given.

And I think the response you might get from some Freepers is based on some others that have shown up here wanting open borders - even if they're disguised as something else. They eventually start name-calling and using insults when they run out of anything to say.