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Prince Harry: Send me to war or I quit
The Mail on Sunday ^ | April 23, 2006 | CHRISTOPHER LEAKE

Posted on 04/23/2006 2:39:38 AM PDT by MadIvan

Prince Harry has threatened to quit the Army if commanders refuse to send him to the front line.

He told senior officers before recently passing out of Sandhurst as a Second Lieutenant: ‘If I am not allowed to join my unit in a war zone, I will hand in my uniform.’

Harry, 21, and third in line to the throne, has previously talked of his desire to see action with his comrades and the prospect of him walking out on the Army if he is not allowed on to the front line has turned a theoretical problem into a nightmare for the Palace and Ministry of Defence.

The embarrassment for the Army caused by him quitting would be matched by uproar at the notion that while ordinary citizens are allowed to that their main problem is not whether Harry can take the pressure of coming under fire in action – but whether the lives of the men fighting alongside him will be more at risk because he is regarded as a ‘trophy target’ by insurgents.

One experienced commander said: ‘Second Lt Wales will, as far as is possible, be treated like any other officer but there has to be a line drawn as to whether the men he leads might experience extra danger due to his presence. Decisions will be taken by commanding officers based on an accurate risk assessment at the time.’

In talks between the MoD and Clarence House, it has been suggested that if Harry is deployed to the front line he should be given a safe role, acting as a liaison officer at a military HQ well away from the action.

But sources close to Harry said last night: ‘He will go bananas if he is given special treatment. He doesn’t want to let the rest of the lads and lasses down by opting out. He was always the first to volunteer on exercises.’

In the final weeks of his Sandhurst training, Harry took part in an exercise in which he acted as commanding officer and sources say that his performance was ‘outstanding’.

The mobility of the Blues and Royals’ light Scimitar reconnaissance vehicles will be a great value in Afghanistan and senior commanders say the Cavalry unit could be sent to Helmand province to support Paras in what is regarded as one of the most dangerous parts of the world.

Harry would command a troop of 11 men who would drive into the front line in their Scimitars.

He would lead his men in searching possibly booby-trapped buildings, hunting down insurgents and providing escorts and combat support to infantry operations.

Harry would be required to command his Scimitar team and remain on the ground, although all troop commanders are expected to do their stint in the operations room, which involves logging events, co-ordinating patrols and directing support where needed.

The Household Cavalry – made up of the Blues and Royals and the Life Guards – is one of the most active units in the British Army and its most senior and oldest regiment.

It has troops attached to the Paras and the Marines, took part in the invasion of Iraq and has since deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. Next month, a squadron of the Household Cavalry will go to Afghanistan in support of 16 Air Assault Brigade. A second squadron is on standby to deploy to Iraq this year and another is preparing to back 3 Commando Brigade when it departs to Afghanistan later this year.

D Squadron of the Household Cavalry Regiment (HCR) supported 16 Air Assault Brigade during the initial battles in the Iraq conflict. HCR also deployed two squadrons to Iraq in 2004.

A high percentage of its officers serve in the SAS and its squadrons support both the Royal Marines and the Parachute Regiment. The Household Cavalry’s Scimitars spearheaded the advance across the Falklands in 1982, led the way in Bosnia and were first into Saudi Arabia in 1991 before the first Gulf War and again in Iraq in 2003.

Elements of the Blues and Royals and the Life Guards have regularly deployed to Iraq and three Cavalrymen have been killed. They were Lance Corporal of Horse Matty Hull, Lance Corporal Karl Shearer and Lieutenant Alexander Tweedie, all from the Blues and Royals.

Three years ago during the battle for Basra, Trooper Chris Finney of the Blues and Royals, who was just 19, won a rare George Cross for gallantry for saving his comrades after their Scimitar came under attack, by mistake, from American bombers.

Young men of Harry’s rank have regularly lost their lives in Iraq. Only a week ago, Lt Richard Palmer, of the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards, died after his vehicle was hit by a roadside bomb near Ad Day, north-west of Basra. In July 2005, Second Lt Richard Shearer, 26, from Nuneaton, of the 1st Battalion, Staffordshire Regiment, died with Privates Leon Spicer and Phillip Hewett in a roadside bomb blast north of Basra.

Harry will be only the second Royal since the Second World War to be posted to a battle zone.

The other was Prince Andrew, who flew Sea King helicopters in the Falklands War. A Clarence House die for their country, members of the Royal Family are considered too important to risk. It would also reopen the debate about Britain’s role in engagements such as Iraq which are widely unpopular and considered by many to be illegal.

The Mail on Sunday revealed last year that the Palace and MoD were holding crisis talks about how to handle Harry’s future military role.

However, his ultimatum has now raised the stakes. It will also increase the urgency of deciding how to treat Prince William who is due to leave Sandhurst in December, presenting Royal and defence officials with the same dilemma about how near the front line he should be allowed.

Harry’s unit, the Blues and Royals, will deploy to Afghanistan this year and he is likely to join them there next year. Senior Army sources say


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gnfa; iraq; princeharry; royals; uk; uktroops; war
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To: Roccus

bttt


81 posted on 04/23/2006 6:36:06 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: television is just wrong

Why does it have to be that? Why can't he be a soldier who wants to join his mates, as he was trained to do, and do the job.


82 posted on 04/23/2006 6:37:23 AM PDT by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: MadIvan

Who, if I recall correctly, used to fly his helicopter as an Exocet decoy (to try to pull any incoming Exocet's off the target of the ship his helo was on). Takes some cajones, that.


83 posted on 04/23/2006 6:39:47 AM PDT by Philistone (Turning lead into gold...)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

Do you even understand why he wore that uniform? What the theme of the party was?


84 posted on 04/23/2006 6:42:02 AM PDT by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: MadIvan

Bravo!

I normally hate anything associated with Royalty, but this young man is an inspiration and an example worth emulating.


85 posted on 04/23/2006 6:43:18 AM PDT by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: FerdieMurphy

How do you know how Prince Harry will respond in a combat situation? He may be up to the challenge.


86 posted on 04/23/2006 6:43:33 AM PDT by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: MadIvan

What a total jerk!

87 posted on 04/23/2006 6:43:36 AM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: Brian Allen
Ouch, your ignorance is showing. Harry was born two years before Princess Diana met James Hewitt. Harry's red coloring comes from the Spencer side of the family. Have you seen her father, her brother, and her two sisters. Obviously, you haven't or you wouldn't make such a idiotic post.

Furthermore, Diana is dead... show some manners and let her rest in peace.

88 posted on 04/23/2006 6:45:24 AM PDT by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: MadIvan
Message for the new 2 LT: Way to Go LT!

Now about that quiting business your service is sure different from mine, because in mine you only quit when your service obligation time was up with a few unpleasant exceptions.

Yes, sometimes for real eight-ball officers they'd sometimes be encouraged to resign for the good of the service or for severe family crisis with a gravely sick spouse or child they might counsel someone to as part of a family hardship separation resign, but to just up and quit because you didn't get the assignment you put on your Dream-Sheet; not that I recall in my service.

MAJOR, Retired, US Army

Hey Ivan! Good to see you around.
89 posted on 04/23/2006 6:45:53 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: jws3sticks

Before you post...perhaps a history lesson is in order for you. The theme of the party was what drove him to wear that uniform. Yes, it was dumb... but I bet you did dumb things just last week. The only difference was you didn't have the press following you around and documenting your stupidity...and didn't have folks like you posting on a internet website your foolishness for all the world to laugh at.


90 posted on 04/23/2006 6:48:30 AM PDT by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: Tax-chick
their main problem is not whether Harry can take the pressure of coming under fire in action – but whether the lives of the men fighting alongside him will be more at risk because he is regarded as a ‘trophy target’ by insurgents.

A reasonable concern, I must say.

I don't think the bad guys could tell Prince Harry from Prince.

91 posted on 04/23/2006 6:51:03 AM PDT by poindexter
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To: jws3sticks

Why would he appear with an American Indian pictograph (whirling logs) on his arm?


92 posted on 04/23/2006 6:51:29 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: MadIvan

Wait -- I hadn't even heard this. One of the royals (A) is IN the military, and (B) WANTS to serve his country and the world by actually fighting and risking himself?

Did one of that disastrous lot turn out well, in spite of everything?

Cool.

Dan


93 posted on 04/23/2006 6:51:34 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: MadIvan

The military is the one place where Prince Harry could be treated like everyone else, and they're taking that away from him too. Shame.


94 posted on 04/23/2006 6:52:21 AM PDT by Doohickey (Democrats are nothing without a constituency of victims.)
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To: Quix
The minute a young Prince Harry stuck his tongue out at the Press, I knew he was special. I've always preferred Harry over William... William is looking too much like his father nowadays.
95 posted on 04/23/2006 6:56:38 AM PDT by rintense
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To: poindexter
I don't think the bad guys could tell Prince Harry from Prince.

LOL! That's a good point. However, the Western (i.e., anti-Western) media would make every effort to let the enemy know where Prince Harry was to be found, I should think.

96 posted on 04/23/2006 6:56:45 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Dump the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I'll weigh less on Mars!)
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To: Roccus

Chortle! The 45th Infantry Division, made up of Southwestern National Guard troops, had the swastika for their emblem until the Nazis started using it. The 45th changed their symbol to the Thunderbird, and the rest is legend.


97 posted on 04/23/2006 6:58:29 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Dump the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I'll weigh less on Mars!)
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To: Recon Dad

"I suspect that they will send him but also send an SAS team to baby sit and be his official taster, so to speak"

I think you are confusing young Harry's military career with Algores.


98 posted on 04/23/2006 6:58:44 AM PDT by SAMS (Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: Tax-chick
IIRC from my BSA days, the plains Indians used it as Tbird. The woodland Indians used it as whirling logs. Either way, the emblem on his arm is NOT a swastika.
99 posted on 04/23/2006 7:01:46 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: rintense

I tend to agree that William seems more compliant than I'd hoped he'd be.

I still would like to see Charles skipped over somehow.


100 posted on 04/23/2006 7:02:31 AM PDT by Quix (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.-- Bible Belt Bumper Sticker)
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