Posted on 04/23/2006 5:27:56 AM PDT by nj26
When President Bush arrives in Irvine on Monday morning to pitch his immigration reform plan, one of his party's best-known local standard-bearers will be maintaining a respectful — and politically careful — distance.
Dana Rohrabacher, the nine-term Republican congressman from Huntington Beach, generally supports the president, but disagrees with his immigration policies. So Rohrabacher plans to sit out Bush's speech to the Orange County Business Council.
"I don't want to be behind him looking glum and not applauding," Rohrabacher said. "So as not to be rude to the president — which I think is inexcusable — I think I'll just be staying away."
Rohrabacher's remarks reflect deep unhappiness within the GOP toward Bush's immigration stance, particularly in Republican Orange County, which is famous as a caldron of border-crackdown sentiment and where many Republicans criticize his guest-worker plan as amnesty for illegal immigrants.
Bush's decision to speak here might prove an embarrassing miscalculation, said John J. Pitney, a government professor at Claremont McKenna College who used to live in Orange County and worked for the national GOP.
"I'm not sure they had their O.C. antennae up," he said of White House schedulers. "They don't realize how complicated this issue is. It's possible this is a Daniel-in-the-lions'-den moment, but that's not really characteristic of this administration."
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Decaf is your friend. Try some before your next post.
No, the Republicans in the Congress, the Senate, and the White House will be responsible for the Democrats taking over Congress because the Republicans chose not to do their jobs. You can talk about how bad things will be under Democrat party rule, and certainly they will be. But both parties want to give the country away to the invaders. The Democrats won't listen/ Perhaps if the Republicans lose their majority and have to listen to Speaker Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Reid for two years, they'll get the message.
I'm tired of this "elect a Democrat" threat the RINOs always use. My vote is not an entitlement program!
I realize there is a theory that if something is repeated over and over long enough, people will believe it. However, the answer really is pretty easy:
Strictly enforce laws against hiring illegal aliens.
Stop giving them social services (except emergency care--after which they are deported back to their home country)
Pass a law that no one illegally in this country after a certain date (and make it soon) can EVER get a green card or legally come in the United States.
Most would self deport. Then we can clean up the rest fairly easily. BTW I agree about securing the border as well.
susie
Americans had better fight for secure borders and an end to this FLOOD of illegal aliens and fight it fast and hard or we are going to become a third-class, third-world country.
As for the politicians; the President deserves to have people not show up in protest because as much as I respect him, he is W R O N G on this issue.
This is what we can do: SEND the President and Washington, DC a message; vote out those who are soft on or who refuse to deal with the problem or who have actually come out in support of ILLEGALS over American citizens, and vote FOR those candidates who promise to put an end to this travesty.
Their OWN positions in government are the only thing the politicians from both parties care about, NOT the American citizen/tax payer. If enough of THEM lose THEIR jobs over the issue of illegal aliens, then and ONLY then will they take the issue seriously and effectivly deal with the problem. Until then they will continue to lie and play verbal gymnastics around the issue with us Americans who are having to foot the bill.
Guest Worker and Amnesty are two different items. It makes great soundbite but is intellectually dishonest. We need workers for labor intensive industry and anyone who denies it is kidding themselves. Guest Worker is only amnesty when President Bush proposes it.
Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters
If we allow people who have been here illegally to become guest workers (and in fact eventually get citizenship) you can call whatever you like, but it IS amnesty.
susie
The thing about your disappointment with Bush is how willing you and the crybabies are to embrace monsters like Hitlery in order to make what you sometime loyalists think is a fix for cryin' out loud.
And in your crowd of "faithfuls" comes that brand of "Inside -Texas" know-it-alls who have this rich-boys notion that only they are hip to the mafia style "Tex-Mex" Connection.
But the bottom line main musical movement is "BETRAYAL OF YOUR PRESIDENT IN TIME OF WAR BABY" and all your lietmotiffs and demurrers are meaningless.
The USA is not great because of fairweather citizens.
"Guest Worker and Amnesty are two different items. It makes great soundbite but is intellectually dishonest."
I agree, but it's the President and the amnesty proponents that have been intellectually dishonest.
A "real" guest worker program would allow foreigners to apply for guest worker status FROM THEIR HOME COUNTRIES.
A "fake" guest worker program involves a slap-on-the-wrist fine for illegal immigrants ALREADY IN THIS COUNTRY, and then allows them to stay as "guest workers" (REWARDING LAWBREAKERS.)
Bush and the Senate RINOs have been blurring this distinction to push through an amnesty bill disguised as a "guest worker" plan.
Mexicans - Welfare Socialists
Puerto Ricans - Welfare Socialists
Feminists - Liberals
Democrats - Liberals
Unions - Liberals
Eco-Nuts - Communists
Soccer Moms - Liberals
Jews - Liberals
Catholics - Democrats / Liberals
Illegals - Illegal Democrat Voters
College A-holes - Liberals / Socialists / Communists
When conservatives stay home this fall to protest the absolute depravity of their elected Republicans the Democrats will coast to victory.
No contributions!!!!!!
In 2 years of posting at FR, I have NEVER suggested that anybody vote for Hillary.
I am a patriotic conservative that supports our military, and I would never vote for a Democrat like Hillary.
What I have warned is that many CONSERVATIVES are going to start staying home or voting third party if the GOP betrays its conservative principles.
By the way, I reported you for posting abuse given your prior post with a personal attack.
Something Bush would never openly do in public to the Democrats. I can't stomach how bad Bush has morphed, he is a terrible President, totally worthless to the conservatives.
Politicians rarely do things because “it's the right thing to do”. What many people don't realize, is that getting politicians to do what they want is a negotiation process. And anybody that is a successful negotiator will tell you, the first rule of negotiation is to make the other side think, that there's a point where you're willing to walk away...
"It makes great soundbite but is intellectually dishonest. We need workers for labor intensive industry and anyone who denies it is kidding themselves"
Perfect example of out of touch republicans. Show me one job (in Kentucky for example) that wasn't done by an American five years ago? Construction industry here is being descimated by the way.
Michael Chertoff and Julie Myers, two lawyers, have little or no time to dispel any suspicions that the administration's goal is to quietly make the current crisis go away without signifcant change in policy.
When the President begins to see the immigration issue as part of the overall WOT, rather than an economic component of domestic politics, then we shall see law enforcement rather than lip-service...
Your angry yet self possessed call for action on the part of our elected officials is a beacon of adult mature thinking amid this veritable chorus of disillusioned "loyalists" and ersatz conservative "Children of the Corn"...who's idea of a fix is to scream "off with their Heads!"
You and many others are certainly not happy with this immigration mess,but you certainly are not among the "so-called loyalists" who are clamoring to throw out the baby with the wash water.
Perhaps. What I am voting for in November has nothing to do with George Bush.
What I am voting on is a Democratic governor(Democrat Jim Doyle) who is selling government contracts to neighboring states in exchange for campaign dollars. I am also voting to defend marriage- which my Democratic governor has vetoed twice. According to the FBI, we have proven voter fraud in Wisconsin. I am voting in support of a voter ID bill that has been vetoed by my governor 3 seperate times.
Also, I will be voting to get rid of our state's attorney general. The "top cop" in the state of Wisconsin, took a goverment vehicle, payed for by my tax dollars, and in a druken stuper drove it into a ditch. Being the "top cop" in the state, absolutely nothing happened to her.
I don't have any idea what the rest of you folks are voting for- but most of us do not have "amnesty" as our #1 issue.
So, if you really want to talk about practical terms- George Bush is not on my ballot. The Democrats desperately want to make this election a referendum on George Bush, and you folks are helping them out.
Many here on FR make the same accusation.
I'm sorry, but I won't be manipulated. My vote is the last real power I have besides voicing my opinions on FR and to my Senators and Congressman.
I will never vote for a 'Rat, but never again will I contribute to the problems in the Republican party by voting 'for' a "Republican" just to vote 'against' a 'Rat. Only 'Rats have to act out of desperation and political hatred. We don't.
The USA is not great because of Politicians who sell out their own country for cheap labor, who willfully allow their own country to be INVADED, who willfully allow their CULTURE to be forcfully changed by these INVADERS and others and who force their own citizens to learn a second LANGUAGE they didn't want or need to learn.
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