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Questions for Madeleine Albright: State of the Secretary
NY Times Sunday Magazine ^ | April 23, 2006 | DEBORAH SOLOMON

Posted on 04/23/2006 5:35:47 AM PDT by Pharmboy

Q: In your new book, "The Mighty and the Almighty: Reflections on America, God and World Affairs," you admit to having underestimated the role that religion would come to play in foreign affairs.

People were unprepared for it. I was unprepared for it. What I grew up with was the "rational actor" model of foreign policy — the idea that you're dealing with someone who is going through a rational process and not a spiritual process.

One could argue that it's wholly rational to be spiritual.

No. Rational is logical, and not faith-based. A rational actor calculates the cost-benefit ratios of things.

You were trained to try to contain Communism, which was godless.

People my age who were trained in history and policy would always say, "Foreign policy is very mplicated, and if you bring God in, it's even more complicated."

Yes, as we know from the Palestinian conflict, which you tried hard to resolve. As the secretary of state under President Clinton, how do you feel when you read the newspapers today?

Sick. A lot of the things that we worked on for eight years have unraveled. It is very hard.

What do you consider the greatest mistake of this administration?

What really troubles me is that democracy is getting a bad name because it is identified with imposition and occupation. I'm for democracy, but imposing democracy is an oxymoron. People have to choose democracy, and it has to come up from below.

Did you see Saddam Hussein as a threat to this country?

He was horrible. But I did not think he was an imminent threat to the United States. You can't go to war with everybody you dislike. I think Iraq may end up being one of the worst disasters in American foreign policy.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bs; cleaninglady; clinton; cya; secstate
Whatta bunch of shite...
1 posted on 04/23/2006 5:35:55 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: aculeus; weegee; governsleastgovernsbest; gate2wire

Read the rest of this--it actually gets worse, if you can belive it.


2 posted on 04/23/2006 5:37:35 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: Pharmboy

Did Ms Solomon ask Mrs Albright about her opinions of the Left branding her as a war criminal over Kosovo, Sudan, and Iraq circa her 1990s policies?


3 posted on 04/23/2006 5:39:54 AM PDT by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: Pharmboy
Did they ask why she gave chia-dictator a lap dance?
4 posted on 04/23/2006 5:40:28 AM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: Pharmboy

The Toon picked some real winners didn't he? This clown and Janet Reno for starters.


5 posted on 04/23/2006 5:42:11 AM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: NZerFromHK

I loved Solomon's question: "What's the biggest failure of THIS administration?" Nothing about the failures of her OWN administration. What a bunch of phony demonrat *ss-kissers they are...


6 posted on 04/23/2006 5:43:00 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: Pharmboy
There are so many things wrong with this. Let's start with the picture. Never wear an outfit that accentuates your cankles and makes you look like:

Now to the content...

Yes, as we know from the Palestinian conflict, which you tried hard to resolve. As the secretary of state under President Clinton, how do you feel when you read the newspapers today?

Sick. A lot of the things that we worked on for eight years have unraveled. It is very hard.

OK....so you continued to fund terrorists with diverted humanitarian aid, believed in Arafat's lies and that's considered work?

What do you consider the greatest mistake of this administration?

What really troubles me is that democracy is getting a bad name because it is identified with imposition and occupation. I'm for democracy, but imposing democracy is an oxymoron. People have to choose democracy, and it has to come up from below.

When has freedom of choice ever been forced on anyone? If we were imposing democracy, the formation of government in Iraq would have had a much shorter timetable.

7 posted on 04/23/2006 5:48:37 AM PDT by edpc
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To: Pharmboy

The US liberals try their hardest ways possible to conceral the Euroepan Left's hatred of the Clinton Administration. It is time to dust out old copies of Le Monde or al-Guardian and print out their old anti-Clinton editorials.

I unearthed this deep inside the BBC archive. There are some British and European Left very upset that Clinton was too conservative on them, at least when it comes to military and US foreign policies, believe it or not!




http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1597970/posts

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He will go down as the man who made America vain and egocentric and not willing to deal with the outside world. He encouraged the US to use its financial muscle to dictate to the world how it should live and any difference of opinion is not to be tolerated. Wake up America and get a president with compassion not just passion.

Mark Lisle, Germany

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For merciless bombing campaigns to distract attention from him NOT 'having sexual relations with that woman'. For supporting Israel as they broke numerous UN Resolutions in order to gain the political support of the New York Jewish Vote. For his love for a fine Cuban Cigar!

Wayne Brannan, UK

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Clinton clearly has done a good job on the domestic front creating jobs and improving the already high American quality of life. However he still pursued the bully-boy foreign policy of the United States which did not help his popularity outside of the US. Inside the US I believe he will be remembered as the President who was there when petrol prices peaked.

Nicholas Bradley, UK




8 posted on 04/23/2006 5:49:00 AM PDT by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: libs_kma; Pharmboy

<< Did they ask why she gave chia-dictator a lap dance? >>

Did she really give him a lap dance?

I did not know that.

[I'd previously heard only about the Lewinskys]


9 posted on 04/23/2006 5:49:22 AM PDT by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: Pharmboy

Okay. That photo definitely justifies a Barf Alert.


10 posted on 04/23/2006 5:52:26 AM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Pharmboy
I'm for democracy, but imposing democracy is an oxymoron.

Somebody needs to explain to this nitwit the difference between a democracy and a representative republic.

11 posted on 04/23/2006 5:53:08 AM PDT by quantim (If the Constitution were perfect, it wouldn't have included the Senate.)
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To: siunevada

Yeah...you're right: I should have posted a 2-bag barf alert. I figured it just about goes without saying with her name in the headline, but next time I will add the warning.


12 posted on 04/23/2006 5:55:14 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: Pharmboy
Did you see Saddam Hussein as a threat to this country?
He was horrible. But I did not think he was an imminent threat to the United States.

Madeline Albright February 18, 2002
"Iraq is a long way from (here), but what happens there matters a great deal here, for the risk that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest national security threat we face -- and it is a threat against which we must and will stand firm."

I'll make the presumption that her pants are on fire.

13 posted on 04/23/2006 5:57:44 AM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Pharmboy

Next to Jimmy Carter, Madeleine Albright was the worst disaster in American foreign policy.


14 posted on 04/23/2006 5:59:38 AM PDT by ILS21R
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To: Pharmboy
I'll never forget the video of this b!tch running after Yasser's limo, holding on to the door handles as the pali chauffeur was driving off, and maddy screaming, "mr arafat, mr arafat please wait"!

What a pant-load!

LLS
15 posted on 04/23/2006 5:59:57 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: libs_kma
"Did they ask why she gave chia-dictator a lap dance?"

Now that THERE is a mental image I really did NOT need! ;-)

LLS
16 posted on 04/23/2006 6:01:30 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: libs_kma
The Toon

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17 posted on 04/23/2006 6:01:35 AM PDT by don-o
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To: Pharmboy
you admit to having underestimated the role that religion would come to play in foreign affairs.
I was unprepared for it.

That explains the Balkan Quagmire thing.

And how would you assess your performance while in office, Madame Sec?

I was unprepared for it.

18 posted on 04/23/2006 6:05:03 AM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Pharmboy
Let me guess ... the new bumper sticker for the Dems is .. Got Religion ??

These people still don't get it
19 posted on 04/23/2006 6:06:16 AM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: Pharmboy
Yes, as we know from the Palestinian conflict, which you tried hard to resolve. As the secretary of state under President Clinton, how do you feel when you read the newspapers today?

Sick. A lot of the things that we worked on for eight years have unraveled. It is very hard.

What is she talking about? The Pali's have held elections and are now back to doing what they do best; killing each other. Oh, and they're still terrorists.

What has unraveled or dried up rather, is the free flow of US tax payer's dollars.

20 posted on 04/23/2006 6:08:07 AM PDT by csvset
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To: Pharmboy
He was horrible. But I did not think he was an imminent threat to the United States. You can't go to war with everybody you dislike.

Then what was that 98 congressional resolution all about??

21 posted on 04/23/2006 6:09:36 AM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: All
This is the interview where she discusses her leg-pressing regimen.
22 posted on 04/23/2006 6:09:55 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:5)
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To: csvset
What is she talking about? The Pali's have held elections and are now back to doing what they do best; killing each other. Oh, and they're still terrorists.

What has unraveled or dried up rather, is the free flow of US tax payer's dollars.

BINGO!

23 posted on 04/23/2006 6:19:08 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Pharmboy
This woman has to be among the stupidest persons ever to hold a cabinet position in the United States of America.

ML/NJ

24 posted on 04/23/2006 6:30:32 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
This woman has to be among the stupidest persons ever to hold a cabinet position in the United States of America.

You won't get an argument from me, friend.

25 posted on 04/23/2006 6:31:49 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: Pharmboy
People my age who were trained in history and policy would always say, "Foreign policy is very mplicated, and if you bring God in, it's even more complicated".
WTF? I'm 25 or so years younger than her. Since @1979, I had been predicting that we, the US, were going to have a serious problem with a religion which tells its followers to kill 'infidels'. Who trained her in "history and policy"? I already knew she was an idiot. Now I think she's a fool.

26 posted on 04/23/2006 6:34:51 AM PDT by gate2wire
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To: gate2wire

Yep...large egos coupled with ignorance/stupidity are a deadly combination.


27 posted on 04/23/2006 6:38:08 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: Pharmboy
A rational actor calculates the cost-benefit ratios of things.
So you and the Horndog "rationally" sold our safety to china and n. korea, sent missiles into Iraq and Afghanistan, let our Troops die in Somalia, bombed a soverign nation into the stone age (unprovoked and without united nations' approval, I might add),sucked up to palestinian terrorists. Yeah, you people were rational. Spit

28 posted on 04/23/2006 6:42:26 AM PDT by gate2wire
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To: quantim
This idea is repeated often, but it needs to be challenged. "imposing democracy is an oxymoron. People have to choose democracy, and it has to come up from below." First, we are doing something very much like we did after WWII in Germany, Japan, and Korea, and they have worked well enough to say that democracy can be imposed. But, more important, we have never gone in anywhere where we weren't being urged to support one side over another.

Moreover, the realpolitique she espouses is not a progressive idea, but had its origins in the Congress of Vienna 1815 which was a reactionary defense of the old order after the French Revolution. We saw after 9/11 that it had brought us allies we didn't agree with, especially Saudi Arabia.

29 posted on 04/23/2006 6:45:00 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: edpc
"Sick. A lot of the things that we worked on for eight years have unraveled. It is very hard."

Yes it is sickening. You thought you could get WJC thr nobel peace prize for your Mideast peace proces. Now it looks like it was just a hoax.

30 posted on 04/23/2006 6:47:40 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Pharmboy

Underestimated the role religion would play in foreign policy. Gee, I guess she wasn't in Clinton's Rolodex when it came to bin Laden, embassy bombing, The Cole, and God knows what else.


31 posted on 04/23/2006 8:23:36 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Pharmboy

The NYTimes jumped the shark with this one.


32 posted on 04/23/2006 8:27:22 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Pharmboy

First question for her that came to mind was do you consider yourself more an idiot or just stupid?


33 posted on 04/23/2006 8:39:27 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Pharmboy
Did you see Saddam Hussein as a threat to this country?

He was horrible. But I did not think he was an imminent threat to the United States. You can't go to war with everybody you dislike. I think Iraq may end up being one of the worst disasters in American foreign policy.

"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction." - Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998

Madeline Albright the liar.

34 posted on 04/23/2006 8:42:27 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Pharmboy

I think Madeline/Hans Blix/ and Bill Clinton's appeasement of North Korea's nuclear proliferation during the 1990's ... may edge out a currently disarmed and slowly democratizing Iraq .... as the nation's "worst foreign policy disaster".

Whatchoo think?


35 posted on 04/23/2006 8:55:45 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: silverleaf

Either that (N Korea, that is, and only time will tell) or essentially ignoring bin Laden and al Qaeda.


36 posted on 04/23/2006 9:26:24 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: Mo1
Let me guess ... the new bumper sticker for the Dems is .. Got Religion ??

In all seriousness, I saw this bumpersticker on a minivan in a high school parking lot just last month (emphasis in the original)...

Christian by choice...
Democrat BY THE GRACE OF GOD!

37 posted on 04/23/2006 10:56:47 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:5)
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To: Pharmboy

Correction: What an ugly bunch of shite...


38 posted on 04/23/2006 11:03:09 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: siunevada

39 posted on 04/25/2006 5:30:41 PM PDT by Emmet Fitzhume (America: Shining with brightness, Always on surveillance.)
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