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Moves Signal Tighter Secrecy Within C.I.A.
NYTIMES ^ | 04/24/06 | SCOTT SHANE and MARK MAZZETTI

Posted on 04/23/2006 7:42:45 PM PDT by Pikamax

Moves Signal Tighter Secrecy Within C.I.A. By SCOTT SHANE and MARK MAZZETTI

WASHINGTON, April 23 — The crackdown on leaks at the Central Intelligence Agency that led to the dismissal of a veteran intelligence officer last week included a highly unusual polygraph examination for the agency's independent watchdog, C.I.A. Inspector General John L. Helgerson, intelligence officials with knowledge of the investigation said on Sunday.

The special polygraphs, which have been given to dozens of employees since January, are part of a broader effort by C.I.A. Director Porter J. Goss to re-emphasize a culture of secrecy.

As the inspector general, Mr. Helgerson was the supervisor of Mary O. McCarthy, who was fired on Thursday after admitting she had leaked classified information to reporters about secret C.I.A. detention centers and other subjects, agency officials said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cia; cialeaker; ciareform; cultureofcorruption; cultureoftreason; d; leaks; leakymccarthyism; marymccarthy; mccarthyism; portergoss; singmarysing
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To: Pikamax
Culture of Corruption is out? Culture of secrecy is in? Guess when Dem head of Ethics in the Congress is forced to resign they had to switch gears, and they already had "The Culture of ..." embalzoned on campaign pins. They can just scratch out "Corruption" and substitute huh?

"There's been a fundamental shift in practice at the Publications Review Board," said Mark S. Zaid, the lawyer. "There's literally been a reinstitution of the 1950's attitude that what happens at C.I.A. stays at C.I.A."

Thank you God!!!

Imagine that! A clandestine agency encouraged to be secretive! What a revelation!

And now we have a bunch of disgruntled agents apparently upset now that they have learned their service does not entitle them to Book clubs on Sixty Minutes.

41 posted on 04/23/2006 8:52:16 PM PDT by Soul Seeker ("No Illegal Alien Left Behind Act" - (quote: Jeff Sessions) - 4/6/06)
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To: Chuck54

I'll go over to DU when all this blows up in their faces just to tell them my new book title "When Cabals Go Kaboom".


42 posted on 04/23/2006 8:53:15 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: Suzy Quzy

You sure do talk a lot. But so far you have said nothing. Exactly what "fact" am I misstating? The investigation or the perjury charge? Please tell me what Mr. Libby allegedly lied about? His favorite color? He was questioned about the Plame leak. The prosecutor contends that Libby lied under oath. I have not read the indictment so I cannot say what exactly Libby purportedly lied about. But there you have it: a perjury indictment resulting from questioning during the Plame investigation. What part of that is not factual?


43 posted on 04/23/2006 8:54:39 PM PDT by PubliusToo
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To: PubliusToo

I'm going to report you...I told you NOT to post to me. Go learn some facts and THEN come back....maybe.


44 posted on 04/23/2006 8:56:14 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: Chuck54

You misunderstand me. I am not placing the blame on anybody. To date, no one has even been indicted for leaking her name. All I said was that the indictment for perjury occurred as a result of the Plame investigation. What is so awful or wrong about that?


45 posted on 04/23/2006 9:00:17 PM PDT by PubliusToo
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To: PubliusToo

If you are not a troll and really wish to stay a while and learn, do yourself a favor and do a search of this forum for Plame. after you have read for a couple of days, then post whatever questions you might still have.


46 posted on 04/23/2006 9:06:28 PM PDT by fatrat
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To: PubliusToo

I have seen no documentation yet that a "leak" occurred, only an apparently secret classified referral requesting an investigation of a supposed leak and a bunch of screaming liberals claiming a leak.


47 posted on 04/23/2006 9:08:00 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

Apparently, the posters to this thread do not know how to read. I did not state that any crime had occurred as a result of the leak or even that any perjury had been committed. Apparently, my simple stattement that an investigation has occurred leads some to conclude that I am a "dummie" and a "twit." Tell that to poor Mr. Libby, who had to hire an expensive lawyer to defend against perjury charges. At least he is not in denial about the allegations.


48 posted on 04/23/2006 9:13:18 PM PDT by PubliusToo
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To: PubliusToo

There has only been a claim of a leak, I say again I have seen no documentation that saying Val gal's name was a leak.

I might change my mind when I get to read that criminal referral that got this ball rolling.


49 posted on 04/23/2006 9:21:24 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Chuck54

"SQ do you also notice how easy these trolls are to recognize. "

Trolls are one thing, but on another thread , I almost reported some creep to
Homeland Security. Maybe I offended him when referred to Osama bedlinen as the great diaper head.


50 posted on 04/23/2006 9:25:02 PM PDT by TET1968
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To: PubliusToo

You are a thread hijacker

this thread is about the DNC operative caught red handed passing secret military secrets to the press and how the CIA is going to catch more of the Rats

hit the road or start your own thread


51 posted on 04/23/2006 9:39:28 PM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: PubliusToo

The initial investigation started to see IF anyone leaked her name, contrary to press reports that someone did leak her name. It was determined that there was not a leak probably because everyone already knew her, contrary to the notion of the MSM that they didn't already know a thing.


52 posted on 04/23/2006 9:40:10 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: PubliusToo

You are insinuating that Karl Rove was the source of the "leak," meaning the White House, by your statement. First of all, there is still no proof that Plame was covert so mentioning her name would not necessarily be a violation. Secondly, if Karl had been the source, doncha think he would've been indicted by now? I mean, that's really who this whole "investigation" was targeting.


53 posted on 04/23/2006 9:44:24 PM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: PubliusToo; darkwing104; Darksheare; MikefromOhio

You are not from around these parts. Enjoy your brief stay, and make sure that your links to DUmpsterland work well. NB4ZOT


54 posted on 04/23/2006 9:51:11 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

Jo-Lyin Wilson "George Washington is small potatoes next to us".

Al-Not Franken"We are sooo patriotic and sooo much smarter than those right wing Christians".

Jo-Lyin "Did you know I'm an expert on nuclear terrorism?- shh, you didn't hear that from my wife.

55 posted on 04/23/2006 9:52:29 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Pikamax
(Whisper)..."a culture of secrecy"

Just mere twist of the knife by the Slimes.

56 posted on 04/23/2006 10:18:50 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Pikamax
Mary McCarthy has given a new meaning to the term McCarthyism:

"Intended to harm the executive branch from the inside, at the expense of our republics national interests."

57 posted on 04/23/2006 10:26:43 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (The Right To Take Life is NOT a Constitutional "Liberty" protected by the 14th Amendment)
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To: Boundless

Barn door closed after...


58 posted on 04/23/2006 10:33:50 PM PDT by hdstmf
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To: PubliusToo

I think we understand you fully, now quit badgering members with your irrelevant and outdated questions. Just move along.


59 posted on 04/24/2006 3:05:56 AM PDT by RetSignman (( HELP...I'm trapped between these curved things))
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To: PubliusToo

(Apparently, the posters to this thread do not know how to read.)

We don't only know HOW to read but WHAT to read, we have read your post's and understand what you are. I, for one, am not going waste anymore space replying or reading your crap.


60 posted on 04/24/2006 3:26:26 AM PDT by RetSignman (( HELP...I'm trapped between these curved things))
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