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U.S. workers and taxpayers pay heavy price for illegal immigration (Phyllis Schlafly)
Town Hall ^ | 4/24/2006 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 04/24/2006 4:24:45 PM PDT by HEMICRASHBOX

Illegal immigrants in this country are threatening a massive boycott on May 1, purportedly to demonstrate they are so essential that the U.S. economy would shut down without their labor. On the contrary, such a boycott will expose the lie expressed by President George W. Bush in Cancun, Mexico, that they are "doing work that Americans will not do."

According to the Pew Hispanic Center, illegal immigrants make up less than 5 percent of the U.S. labor force. If every one of the 20 million illegal aliens in our country plays hooky from his job on May 1, the overwhelming majority of those same types of jobs will be worked by millions of U.S. citizens.

All over America, U.S. citizens will flip hamburgers in fast-food shops, wash dishes in restaurants, change sheets in hotels, mow lawns, trim shrubs, pick produce, drive taxis, replace roofs on houses, and do all kinds of construction work. Americans are quite willing to work unpleasant, menial, tiresome and risky jobs, but not for Third World wages.

An employment service in Mobile, Ala., recently received an "urgent request" to fill 270 job openings from contractors who were hired to rebuild and clear areas of Alabama devastated by Hurricane Katrina. The agency immediately sent 70 laborers and construction workers to three job sites.

After two weeks on the job, the men were fired by employers who told them "the Mexicans had arrived" and were willing to work for lower wages. The U.S. citizens had been promised $10 an hour, but the employers preferred Mexicans who would work for less. Employment agency manager Linda Swope told The Washington Times: "When they told the guys they would not be needed, they actually cried ... and we cried with them. This is a shame."

Swope said that employment agencies throughout Alabama, Louisiana and Mississippi all face similar problems because an estimated 30,000 men from Mexico and Central and South America, many in crowded buses and trucks, came into those three states after Hurricane Katrina, willing to work for less than whatever was paid to U.S. citizens.

Meanwhile, President Bush signed the Katrina Emergency Assistance Act extending for 13 weeks the unemployment benefits to U.S. citizens displaced by Katrina. Thus employers get the benefit of cheap foreign labor while you and I provide taxpayer handouts to workers whom the government allowed to be displaced from the jobs they were eager to take.

There is no penalty on employers who replace U.S. citizens with illegal immigrants at lower pay. Homeland Security even announced it has suspended the sanctioning of employers who hire illegal immigrants, and President Bush suspended the Davis-Bacon Act, which requires local contractors to pay "prevailing" wages.

A study published by the National Bureau of Economic Research reported that the surge of immigration in the 1980s and 1990s lowered the wages of our own high school dropouts by 8.2 percent. The surge has accelerated since that report was issued. The Congressional Budget Office reported that 60 percent of Mexican and Central American workers in the United States in 2004 lacked a high school diploma.

The Kennedy-McCain-Bush guest worker plan would import more uneducated, unskilled workers, and thereby deny our own high school dropouts (of whom we have too many) the opportunity to get started in building their lives in the labor force. U.S. citizens are threatened that the cost of lettuce will rise precipitously if we don't continue to import Mexican agricultural workers. But a farm worker gets only 6 or 7 cents out of a $1 head of lettuce, so even if the pay doubles, consumers would hardly notice the difference.

On the other hand, the costs taxpayers are forced to pay for social benefits for low-paid workers are astronomical. The National Research Council reports that an immigrant to the United States without a high-school diploma consumes $89,000 more in government services than he pays in taxes during his lifetime.

Low-paid illegal immigrants obviously pay very little taxes, but they cash in on all sorts of benefits paid by other taxpayers, such as schooling for their children, emergency health care, housing subsidies, Earned Income Tax Credit and law enforcement. If the 20 million illegal immigrants are legalized, they will also become eligible for Medicaid, and that's a real break-the-bank prospect.

These figures don't even count the rapidly growing underground economy, in which millions of illegal immigrants are paid off the books in cash. That enables both employer and employee to avoid paying taxes, and enables employers to avoid paying workers' compensation, unemployment compensation, and assorted other taxes.

If the Internal Revenue Service collected all the taxes that should be paid by the underground economy, our current budget deficit would disappear overnight, according to a Bear Stearns study released in 2005. The Americans who pay taxes are giving a free ride to those who are not paying taxes, and a 7-cent increase in the price of lettuce should not be on our worry list.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderlist; dividedtheyfall; dusrupter; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; mexicanhater; newby; onetrickpony; racists; schlafly
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Anybody wanna badmouth Phyllis Schlafly?

You can post this stuff all day.....

1 posted on 04/24/2006 4:24:48 PM PDT by HEMICRASHBOX
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To: HEMICRASHBOX

Illegal immigrants bother me less than illegal aliens; at least the immigrants intend on having a life here, rather than simply viewing our country as an extended job site.


2 posted on 04/24/2006 4:27:01 PM PDT by kingu (Yeah, I'll vote in 2006, just as soon as a party comes along who listens.)
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To: kingu

Huh?
susie


3 posted on 04/24/2006 4:29:20 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: kingu

Double "Huh?"


4 posted on 04/24/2006 4:34:01 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (Illegal immigration 24/7, the GOP ain't making it 24/7.)
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To: HEMICRASHBOX

Phyllis Schlafly BTTT


5 posted on 04/24/2006 4:36:00 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((Immigration: Acting like dupes does not earn us their respect, but their CONTEMPT.))
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To: HEMICRASHBOX
I thought they were here to just take the jobs that I didn't want - ?

Does the President know about this?

6 posted on 04/24/2006 4:37:19 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Islam........not fit for human consumption.)
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To: HEMICRASHBOX
Anybody want to badmouth Phyllis?

I'll take a shot at it.

In the first line of the second paragraph she uses the Pew Hispanic number. In the second line of the second paragraph she uses the number 20 million that Pew doesn't use.

She is picking and choosing numbers. This is called dishonesty.

If she is being dishonest about this, what else is she being dishonest about?

7 posted on 04/24/2006 4:48:45 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: HEMICRASHBOX

Phyllis Schlafly has only pointed out that 20 million illegal aliens in our country is a problem, but this problem is only a symptom of a much more serious disease. The disease that is afflicting our economy and the future of our country is an inept and uncaring government. It is said that a people deserve the government that they have, so we only have ourselves to blame for the oncoming disaster.


8 posted on 04/24/2006 4:50:36 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: LasVegasMac

Like I posted before, "...a job an American won't do is a job that doesn't need doing..."


9 posted on 04/24/2006 4:51:28 PM PDT by wastoute
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To: ancient_geezer; Taxman; pigdog; Principled; EternalVigilance; PhilWill; kevkrom; n-tres-ted; ...

Fair Tax Ping!


10 posted on 04/24/2006 4:51:59 PM PDT by Man50D
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To: kingu
Illegal immigrants bother me less than illegal aliens; at least the immigrants intend on having a life here, rather than simply viewing our country as an extended job site.

Illegal Immigrants and Illegal aliens are one and the same. Regardless of how you describe them they are here ILLEGALLY!
11 posted on 04/24/2006 4:55:04 PM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D
If taxes were paid on consumption rather than [reported] income, the illegals would demand pay sufficient to earn a living AND pay taxes - just like all the legal workers demand.

Illegals would always pay the maximum rate of federal tax on retail purchases of new goods and services. INdeed, they'd pay a higher rate than me.

12 posted on 04/24/2006 4:56:11 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Ben Ficklin

For two years Bush has defined "amnesty" (which he is of course against) as any reform that provides a path to citizenship for illegals. In his speech in Irvine today he explicitly endorsed a path to citizenship for illegals. Bush has been "dishonest" with us when it comes to illegal immigration.


13 posted on 04/24/2006 4:58:06 PM PDT by mthom
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To: LasVegasMac
"All over America, U.S. citizens will flip hamburgers in fast-food shops, wash dishes in restaurants, change sheets in hotels, mow lawns, trim shrubs, pick produce, drive taxis, replace roofs on houses, and do all kinds of construction work. Americans are quite willing to work unpleasant, menial, tiresome and risky jobs, but not for Third World wages.

As Americans have been doing for decades and proud of it!!

14 posted on 04/24/2006 4:59:09 PM PDT by stopem (If we need a "guest worker" we'll call........if the phone doesn't ring it's me!)
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To: Man50D
I truly like reading The John and Ken show out of Las Angeles... It's one of the few places you can find out about the Irvine, CA speach this morning. But I found this article "Immigration Forum Gets Intense" from LATimes.com very interesting. What do ya'll think??
15 posted on 04/24/2006 5:08:24 PM PDT by DaisyGirl
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To: mthom
You are wrong. Bush has been very consistent in his guest workers only proposal.

The Bush Plan has not been a viable option for a long time, if it ever was at all.

In as much as 19 of the 22 senate republicans who, up to now have been loyal supporters of the Bush Plan, abandoned that position and fell in behind Martinez-Hagel, don't you think its about time Bush abandoned the Bush Plan to support something that is politically feasible.

16 posted on 04/24/2006 5:10:39 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: HEMICRASHBOX

17 posted on 04/24/2006 5:15:04 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: Principled
If taxes were paid on consumption rather than [reported] income, the illegals would demand pay sufficient to earn a living AND pay taxes - just like all the legal workers demand.

Illegals would always pay the maximum rate of federal tax on retail purchases of new goods and services. INdeed, they'd pay a higher rate than me.


Also, the underground economy would be reduced considerably with the Fair Tax.
18 posted on 04/24/2006 5:15:55 PM PDT by Man50D
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To: kingu

Say what?


19 posted on 04/24/2006 5:16:47 PM PDT by Nickname
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To: HEMICRASHBOX

Phillis for president.


20 posted on 04/24/2006 5:17:05 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Ben Ficklin
In the first line of the second paragraph she uses the Pew Hispanic number. In the second line of the second paragraph she uses the number 20 million that Pew doesn't use.

She is picking and choosing numbers. This is called dishonesty.


I think you misunderstood the paragraph. Schlafly quotes the Pew Hispanic numbers for the percentage of the workforce ONLY (which they claim is less than 5%). The 20 million is the commonly-used number for the total number of illegal immigrants in this country, which would include those not working at all (children, stay-at-home moms, etc.) Now, the second line of the paragraph may seem to imply that she thinks all 20 million of them work, but it is more likely just a badly-worded sentence. In either case, calling Schlafly a liar for such a trivial thing is definitely unwarranted.
21 posted on 04/24/2006 5:26:28 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: HEMICRASHBOX

If section 1 of the 14th amendment were changed, I believe this would go a long way towards helping our immigration/illegal alien problem.


22 posted on 04/24/2006 5:28:11 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: fr_freak

No, if the Pew Hispanic number in the first line is good enough for her, why wouldn't the Pew number be good enough for her in the second line? I'll tell tou why. Exaggeration.


23 posted on 04/24/2006 5:30:19 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: HEMICRASHBOX

Bttt


24 posted on 04/24/2006 5:47:07 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: Man50D

Bush said today that illegal aliens are only human beings who should be accorded "respect." He also said it would be impossible to deport millions of them.

So, those who willfully and deliberately and repeatedly break our laws should be given "respect?" Will somebody please tell what planet this guy is living on? Does he really think this kind of nonsense is going to sway the American people?


25 posted on 04/24/2006 5:47:35 PM PDT by WestSylvanian
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To: WestSylvanian
Bush said today that illegal aliens are only human beings who should be accorded "respect." He also said it would be impossible to deport millions of them.

He also said this, just in case there's still anyone left who doesn't know how much contempt he holds the American worker in:

"That's why I'm for a temporary worker program that will -- (applause) -- that says to a person, here is a tamper-proof card that says, you can come and do a job an American won't do, fill a need."

Is it really going to say that on the card?

26 posted on 04/24/2006 5:58:58 PM PDT by skip_intro
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To: HEMICRASHBOX

Our President,President Bush seems to care more about the criminal alien Mexicans that are coming into our country without authorisation than he does for the hard working American citizens who are paying the bills.

He Basicly said so when he stated that "we could not deport the 12 million Mexican criminal aliens who are here already,After all these are people too"

The Republican Party has had it as of 2008. I will not vote for a party that will not stand on its principles.
The Republican party does not deserve that vote


27 posted on 04/24/2006 6:04:31 PM PDT by puppypusher
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To: Ben Ficklin
No, if the Pew Hispanic number in the first line is good enough for her, why wouldn't the Pew number be good enough for her in the second line? I'll tell tou why. Exaggeration.

No, I'll tell you why - she wasn't trying to use both numbers to describe the same thing. They describe illegal workforce vs. total illegals.
28 posted on 04/24/2006 6:08:24 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Ben Ficklin

She is picking and choosing numbers. This is called dishonesty.

What do you call living in this country illegally? Or using false S.S. numbers? How about avoiding income taxes? Talk about picking and choosing!


29 posted on 04/24/2006 6:12:58 PM PDT by VOATNOW1
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To: fr_freak
Exaggeration
30 posted on 04/24/2006 6:15:36 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: VOATNOW1
"What do you call living in this country illegally?"

I call that de-facto legal status.

31 posted on 04/24/2006 6:18:35 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: puppypusher

"Since 2001, 6 million people have been caught illegally trying to get in this country, and turned back -- 6 million people."

The above is a quote from President Bush today.


32 posted on 04/24/2006 6:34:40 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: pleikumud

"Since 2001, 6 million people have been caught illegally trying to get in this country, and turned back -- 6 million people."

The above is a quote from President Bush today

President Bush may have made that claim,But I have heared of and read estimates that claimed that there are at minimum 12 million criminal aliens in the country allready and that's probably underestimated.

The number is probably twice that number.Seeing the numbers that I have seen in a small state like Connecticut I just have to be concerned what the rest of the country looks like.


33 posted on 04/24/2006 6:41:16 PM PDT by puppypusher
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To: HEMICRASHBOX

Yep, time for the FairTax to put the pressure on the illegal economy and make it pay some part of the tax revenue they benefit from - instead of us paying it all.


34 posted on 04/24/2006 7:00:58 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: fr_freak

And the 20 million number (it was actually 21 million) was from data of over a year and a quarter (or more) ago.

The number now is probably correctly more like 25 million.


35 posted on 04/24/2006 7:03:15 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: WestSylvanian

I'd gladly respect them if they'd stay in their own country and try to improve it instead of dragging ours down.


36 posted on 04/24/2006 7:04:34 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: skip_intro

No, it'll probably say "Fake California Driver's License". You surely don't expect them to have to walk or ride a bike to work do you???

Have you no respect???


37 posted on 04/24/2006 7:06:27 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: HEMICRASHBOX; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...


Schlafly Ping!

38 posted on 04/24/2006 9:53:47 PM PDT by HiJinx (Secure Our Borders ~ Now.)
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To: R.W.Ratikal

Schafly/Rice 08


39 posted on 04/24/2006 9:56:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HEMICRASHBOX
There is no penalty on employers who replace U.S. citizens with illegal immigrants at lower pay.

And therein lies the root of the problem.
40 posted on 04/24/2006 10:23:05 PM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Stop the “No Illegal Alien Left Behind Act” – call/email/fax/write your Senators today!)
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To: wastoute; LasVegasMac

<< As I posted before, " ... a job an American won't do is a job that doesn't need doing ... " >>

Absolutely!


41 posted on 04/24/2006 10:39:30 PM PDT by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: HEMICRASHBOX

just kidding..


42 posted on 04/24/2006 10:51:12 PM PDT by timestax
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To: Ben Ficklin

I think the GOP wants lots of illegals here because they dilute the power of the unions (although they can't say that out loud), and the Democrats want lots of illegals here because they see lots of new welfare-recipients/government-addicts/Democrat-voters down the line (and the Democrats can't say that out loud, either).

What a conundrum!


43 posted on 04/24/2006 11:10:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: DaisyGirl

Hi DG,

I was there and the opposition did have to be separated from the good guys. The cops acted quickly. Believe me they would have came out the losers if they had pushed the issue.

The good guys outnumbered the losers by a wide margin. The bad guys were self labled communists and America haters plus a few self proclaimed illegals with signs saying the border crossed them. All blowing whistles, banging drums and calling everyone on our side racists. The usual BS. We gave more than we got and it was a lot of fun.

What was new and encouraging was one black speaker after another demanding the law be followed, insisting this is America and that we should be speaking English and that we should not encourge spanish in any way. They protested how thier kids could not work as local business demanded workers speak Spanish.

The Crispus Attucks Brigade (black minutemen) were well recieved and passed out US flags. There were white Minutemen there as well.

Besides Ted Hayes,an LA. based homeless activist and full on conservative and the guy who organized the event, Terry Anderson a local black anti illlegal immigration radio personality spoke, Terry's motto is "If you aint mad, you aint paying attention.

I was treated warmly as one of the (too few) whites in attendance.

I have never seen such outspoken patriotism from blacks in my life and they are our natural allies in this fight. And they are well aware that this is a defining moment in our nations history and that there is a lot on the line. I was very encouraged.

I spoke with a black woman who agreed blacks and white Americans demonstrating togather helped avoid labels of racism when it is really nationalism and patriotism.

Next rally will be on May 9th, same location.


44 posted on 04/25/2006 12:34:04 AM PDT by ARE SOLE
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To: HEMICRASHBOX

[[Employment agency manager Linda Swope told The Washington Times: "When they told the guys they would not be needed, they actually cried ... and we cried with them. This is a shame."]]

Now what would have happened if these US workers would have stuck together and said we are NOT letting these Mexicans take our jobs (at least not without a fight or national media spotlight)? This precedent needs to be set somewhere and I believe that it would send a message that we are tired be being played for fools. The party is over. I can't think of any other country in the world where it's citizens would sit idly by while foreigners came in illegally and took over a hugh segment of their job market for lower wages. Political correctness, diversity and multiculturalism will destroy this country from the inside.


45 posted on 04/25/2006 4:39:32 AM PDT by Buffettfan (VIVA LA MIGRA! - LONG LIVE THE MINUTEMEN!)
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To: puppypusher

I don't think anyone really knows how many illegals are in the U.S., or how many are coming in each day. The Federal government seems to have no way of knowing, so I doubt any state or other organization knows either. It could be much higher or much lower than what we hear in the media.


46 posted on 04/25/2006 5:36:37 AM PDT by pleikumud
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To: Buffettfan
Now what would have happened if these US workers would have stuck together and said we are NOT letting these Mexicans take our jobs (at least not without a fight or national media spotlight)?

We would have seen hell freeze over. We're not only losing our country, we've lost our spines.

47 posted on 04/25/2006 5:53:14 AM PDT by StarFan
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To: pleikumud
Perhaps mnot, but it is certainly a great deal more that the 10-12 million "official" number quoted by the MSM and the government as shown by Bear Stearns study.

This study was published in Jan. 2005 and obviously drew from data obtained during 2004. The number derived by methods in this study - 21 million - would almost certainly be above 25 million by now I'd think.

48 posted on 04/25/2006 7:40:36 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: HEMICRASHBOX

Well, if its just screwing taxpayers and workers, it must be ok.


49 posted on 04/25/2006 7:44:11 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: HEMICRASHBOX
"doing work that Americans will not do."

Like George Bush and our Congress who won't defend and protect America from foreign invasion? I'll bet when the Mexicans take over they won't be the push overs our present politicians are.

50 posted on 04/25/2006 8:19:03 AM PDT by swampfox98 (Lou Dobbs and CNN forever! Michael Savage; Frosty Wooldridge forever!)
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