Posted on 04/25/2006 10:57:43 AM PDT by underwiredsupport
Myth vs. Fact
by Thomas R. Eddlem
May 1, 2006
http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/printer_3745.shtml
Politicians and pundits are defending illegal immigration with worn-out myths that can easily be proven wrong.
Myth: Illegal immigrants contribute greatly to the American economy.
Fact: So-called statistics supporting this myth are typically a deceptive amalgam of statistics and supposition arranged to conceal an undeniable truth. Consider, for instance, this statement from the ACLU paper Immigrants and the Economy (2002): "Immigrants pay more than $90 billion in taxes every year and receive only $5 billion in welfare. Without their contributions to the public treasury, the economy would suffer enormous losses." If 32.5 million immigrants (the total of legal and illegal immigrants, according to the recent U.S. Census figures) really pay $90 billion in taxes, then they pay half the taxes the average native-born American pays. Note too that the ACLU combines both legal and illegal immigrants into its statistic. Most taxes paid by immigrants are paid by legal immigrants. Illegal immigrants often pay little or no taxes because many of them are working "under the table" in the underground, cash-based economy.
Welfare is a term limited to only a few federal subsidy programs, and the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) notes: "Even though illegal aliens make little use of welfare, from which they are generally barred, the costs of illegal immigration in terms of government expenditures for education, criminal justice, and emergency medical care are significant." CIS estimates that the total net cost of illegal immigration is an annual drain on the government of $11-22 billion annually.
Myth: We are a nation of immigrants.
Fact: This myth is false on its face. Nearly 88 percent of the people living in the United States today are not immigrants; they were born here. This is a nation of natives, not a nation of immigrants. "But," the liberal propagandists reply, "we all have ancestors who come from other countries." And, one might reply, so does just about every other nation on Earth.
Are not the French merely descendents of the immigrant barbarian Franks, who drove out the Roman era Celtic Gauls? And the English are simply immigrant Angles and Saxons who virtually wiped out the Celtic Britons in the fifth century A.D. They too are simply nations of immigrants under this liberal myth, as is practically every other nation on Earth. The myth descends to meaninglessness upon any serious analysis. Yet whenever this myth is uttered, we are expected to nod our heads in agreement that a deep and salient point has been made.
Myth: You cannot deport 12 million people.
Fact: This is nothing more than a slogan for people who have stopped trying to address the problem. The U.S. government needs to begin deporting illegal aliens, and even if it only deports a fraction of them over the next few years that would be progress. If the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency deported only two million of the 12 million illegal aliens, 10 million illegals would be better than 12 million.
Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.) notes that enforcing employer sanctions could lead many to go home on their own without deportation proceedings: "If you can't get a job in this country, and if you can't get social service benefits, you go home." Additionally, a lot of immigrants visit families on their own, and wouldn't be able to get back in if Congress decides to secure the border.
On the other hand, if the 12 million illegals are legalized, none would be deported. Moreover, this amnesty (whether called amnesty or not) would simply induce more illegals to cross the Rio Grande in the hopes of waiting until the next amnesty.
Myth: Illegal immigrants are only taking jobs Americans do not want.
Fact: Many illegal immigrants are able to work for less than market value because they don't pay income or Social Security taxes and are able to take their entire paycheck (or cash) home. This is not only unfair competition against employers who follow the law and pay employees "above the table," but it depresses the wage scale for Americans who would otherwise select jobs currently filled by illegal immigrants. These are jobs that Americans "do not want" only because the illegal immigrants have depressed the wage scale for the positions. Take away the illegal immigrants, and the market would raise wages to the level where Americans would take the jobs.
Myth: Guest workers would only be here temporarily.
Fact: History demonstrates that "guest workers" would be as temporary as the "temporary" telephone tax, still in effect, that Congress enacted in 1898 to pay for the Spanish-American War. And what would happen if 12 million "guest workers" decided not to leave? Those who argue against deporting the current 12 million illegal aliens as impractical are likely, if challenged, to say they find the prospect of deporting "guest workers" impractical as well.
Thus, it is hardly surprising that President Bush fails to mention a time limit on the "temporary" worker visas the federal government would permit under the "guest worker" program he is pushing in his public addresses. Most pending congressional legislation would limit the "guest worker" to three years but what then?
Myth: Illegal immigrants have a right to come here. It is our Christian duty to provide hospitality.
Fact: Nearly two-thirds of the 32.5 million foreign-born people living in the United States entered this country legally, and the United States has more legal immigrants than any other country in the world. That's hardly poor hospitality, and no bill before Congress that has a chance of becoming law would change this nation's hospitality. But it is poor hospitality to say to the nearly 22 million legal U.S. immigrants who waited in line that they wasted their time following the rules because illegal immigrants will now get the same status.
The need to deport illegal aliens and secure our borders has nothing to do with persecuting minorities or lack of hospitality. The United States can continue to allow a large or small number of immigrants into this country legally, depending upon how many can be reasonably assimilated without destroying our American identity. Rather, securing our borders is necessary as a matter of principle in the interests of equal justice under law as well as practical security in this age of international terrorism. And this nation can no longer afford to allow "myth-information" slogans to sidetrack the nation from fulfilling the mandate of controlling the borders.
Dead guy's SSN. Very common. Some dead guys vote too.
LOL
Deport the Illegals?
Si Se Puede
Build the fence?
Si Se Puede
Fine and jail employeers who hire illegals?
Si Se Puede
Make English the ONLY language in the US?
He*l, Yes!
>>>> You can buy a number from a person willing to let you use it, a family member here legally can let you use it.
<<<<
Show us that law.
Heres a start
United States Code
http://uscode.house.gov
I say BS!
yup. Got the point and could add more!
I am not Mr. Gonzales but I can answer your question. It is called a Taxpayer ID number. Anyone can apply and you do not have to be a citizen to have one. The IRS specifically states on its website that they will not report anyone to immigration. A real SS number can be purchased or made up, also. Immigrants must present one of these numbers to their employer. The employer does not have to check to see if it is valid or accurate, the IRS will not report it, and the SSA does not report it either. Much easier than getting a real SS number. The only problem is, any withholding can't be reclaimed---ever.
Suppose the Mexican government refuses to take them back. Then what?
Fair question. Well, we do have a little bit of leverage. It is called BOYCOTT.
Mexico has a very lucrative produce export business. If they don't take their folks back...then their produce rots in the cold storage...south of the border, and does not cross into the good ole' USA.
As the Captain said on Hunt for Red October, "The secret to playing Chicken, is knowing when to blink."
Something tells me Jorge Fox don't know how to play Chicken.....
RM 6-8.0
4-98
Curriculum Guide
I. Goals and Objectives
A. Understand what NAFTA is and how it affects trade.
B. Understand how NAFTA may impact Texas and U. S. agriculture.
C. Understand impacts of NAFTA on selected commodities.
II. Description/Highlights
III. Potential Speakers
A. Extension Economists
B. Global Business Managers
C. National or State Government Officials
D. Marketing Club Leaders
IV. Review Questions
A. What two steps does NAFTA take to open up trade between the three countries?
1) phases out all existing import tariffs, 2) eliminates or reduces as much as possible all nontariff trade barriers.
B. How is NAFTA expected to impact U.S. Agriculture and why is that impact difficult to assess?
NAFTA is expected to have a positive impact overall, but it is hard to assess due to its mixed impacts on some sectors and the influence of global market conditions on most products.
C. NAFTA will impacts many products. Where will the effects of NAFTA be the most evident in Texas?
Beef and Cattle, Feed Grains, Wheat, Rice, Cotton, Peanuts, Vegetables, and Dairy Products
V. For More Details
International Trade Leaflet Series, Leaflets 7, 8, 9, and 10 located at: http://agrinet.tamu.edu/intlagmktg/
Potential for Agricultural Trade
Figure 2. US Agricultural Imports from Mexico Pre and Post-NAFTA
NAFTA Commodity Impacts
Beef and Cattle
Feed Grains
Wheat
Rice
Cotton
Peanuts
Fruits and Vegetables
Dairy Products
Very interesting. Thanks for the info.
Ping!!
>>> A real SS number can be purchased or made up <<<<
BS!
Show the Fed. Code on this.
See my 204
But who would be building our homes, working in our restaurants, doing our landscaping, and working in food processing plants - all without documentation - instead of those Americans who don't want those jobs? (sarcasm). Our nation's businesses are as guilty as anyone in causing this problem. You are point on - it did work fine for 30 years, and until someone grows backbone and begins implementing laws already enacted, it will continue and get WORSE.
Reading these immigration threads, many say it would cost too much to send them back, while skirting around how much it is costing us to keep them here - sucking the lifeblood out of our hospitals, educational system and social programs meant for disadvantaged and disabled US citizens and devastating an already cripled social security program via fraud, identity theft, dishonesty and corruption. Has anyone ever heard of an audit on our social security system? Perhaps it is long past due.
No stretch. They were legal. They complied with the existing laws at the time.
By the way...you just plagiarized an entire post from PBS without giving credit to your sources.
LOL. Since when do I have to cite sources. I am not submitting a thesis. If you can counter the informtation, do it.
SAW-LOOT and BTTT Mama....
Invasion by foreigners is a federal issue. One of the few things the Fedgov is specifically charged with in the Constitution. And there already exist more than enough federal statutes to deal with it. What we need is a little will, a little spine, some cajones in DC. But there's none to be found.
ICE ICE, baby!
Exactly. I worked as a dishwasher in a restaurant while I was in high school. I worked weekends and holidays. After a year, I advanced to salads and desserts. A number of my fellow high school students worked with me. We all went on to college and graduated. These were great jobs for high school kids, even at $1 an hour.
Names Addresses.
Some examples need to be made.
Attempting to do bidness with 200 FReepers parked on their doorstep might adjust their attitude.
If it can be proven that they are hiring illegals then Citizens arrests can be made. It's a question of motivation.
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