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Myth vs. Fact: (You cannot deport 12 million people) Oh Yes You Can!
The New American ^ | May 1, 2006 | Thomas R. Eddlem

Posted on 04/25/2006 10:57:43 AM PDT by underwiredsupport

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To: lsjogren

"How do we get them to go home once their time has expired?
If we can't deport them now, how will we deport them then?"


Actually, I think they have a point. We can't deport them now because we have cowards in office. By the time it came time to send the temporary workers back home, this country will be run by people like Tom Tancredo, and the guest workers WILL be sent back.

That's why what they really want is an amnesty. That way they know that the legalization of the illegals is permanent and can't be reversed once the grownups take over in Washington.


61 posted on 04/25/2006 11:59:23 AM PDT by lsjogren
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To: lsjogren

"Thaaat's right, give all previous Presidents a pass and lynch GWB for their failings."


so what do you propose to do the past presidents? Incarcerate them and subject them to floggings.

The fact is, Bush is the guy in charge now. Or at least the guy who is supposed to be in charge.



62 posted on 04/25/2006 12:00:42 PM PDT by lsjogren
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

There are many ways to do it.


63 posted on 04/25/2006 12:00:55 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: underwiredsupport
Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.) notes that enforcing employer sanctions could lead many to go home on their own without deportation proceedings: "If you can't get a job in this country, and if you can't get social service benefits, you go home."

Would someone explain to me why they would go home to a land where they cannot get jobs to feed themselves and their families?

64 posted on 04/25/2006 12:01:53 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

The old fake SS card trick.


65 posted on 04/25/2006 12:02:29 PM PDT by standingfirm
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

The Pew center released a report saying that most had jobs in their home country. But they could make higher pay in the U.S.


A low wage job in Mexico beats no job in the U.S., so long as they aren't able to get on welfare.


66 posted on 04/25/2006 12:03:15 PM PDT by lsjogren
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Would someone explain to me why they would go home to a land where they cannot get jobs to feed themselves and their families?

Or maybe just not the kind of jobs they'd prefer.

67 posted on 04/25/2006 12:03:26 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: underwiredsupport

Ahhhh I remember those days, the sight of green BP vans and buses running up and down the valley. *sigh*


68 posted on 04/25/2006 12:03:37 PM PDT by sheana
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To: moehoward

Question is: Will this child at retirement,be allowed to collect on everything that has been paid into his/her personal account? If so, there maybe some very big winners in this little scam.

Anyone who wants to borrow one of my bank deposit slips, just let me know.


69 posted on 04/25/2006 12:04:57 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Hanging and firing squad, was not deemed cruel or inhumane execution by the writers of that clause.)
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To: lsjogren

We have illegal alien and deportation laws, we just don't enforce them. Just like our gun laws, which many of these illegal aliens have taken advantage of.
We don't need new laws, we need new lawmakers that will provide enforcement dollars to the proper authorities.


70 posted on 04/25/2006 12:06:39 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: lsjogren
The Pew center released a report saying that most had jobs in their home country. But they could make higher pay in the U.S.

Why do you believe the Pew Center? They're about as left-leaning as you can get.

71 posted on 04/25/2006 12:08:17 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: underwiredsupport

"One child's Social Security number was used 742 times by workers in 42 states."

That kid is gonna have quite a monthly check when he or she retires!


72 posted on 04/25/2006 12:08:19 PM PDT by Feiny (Now go bang your heads on your desks until something useful comes out!)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

If they're on the payroll, they're paying in.

Usually, they're on the payroll--using someone else's Social Security number.

Every so often the SSA will send the employer a notice saying, these names and numbers don't match up. The employer goes to the employee and says that there's a discrepancy. The illegal responds, "Oh, that's the wrong number. I must have written it down wrong. And I don't really go by that name any more." And they produce another card with another number. And the idiot employer lets them get away with it!

Once in a while, the illegal just ups and leaves, and goes to a new employer and starts all over.

It takes the SSA so long to catch up with these frauds, they can keep doing it indefinitely.


73 posted on 04/25/2006 12:09:32 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (If low-skill workers were key to economic growth, Mexico would be an economic powerhouse.-Rich Lowry)
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To: lsjogren
Flogging and incarceration is good. Revoking their citizenship and deporting them to Antarctica would be better.
74 posted on 04/25/2006 12:10:47 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Hanging and firing squad, was not deemed cruel or inhumane execution by the writers of that clause.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

"Why do you believe the Pew Center? They're about as left-leaning as you can get."


But the fact that illegals mostly had jobs before they came here runs counter to the leftist position. Why would Pew want to make something up if it argues against their own partisan point of view?


75 posted on 04/25/2006 12:11:48 PM PDT by lsjogren
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To: tessalu

Our borders should have been secured years ago. This is Bush's fault. The USA does not need to form a militia to remove those who came here illegally."


I'm afraid it's going to take more than a 'militia'. Behind those american flags are those who DEMAND immediate legalization and no borders from those of us who 'stole' their land. Frankly, they've invaded and declared war.

Wonder what would happen if several hundred anti-amnesty protester showed up in each of the main protest cities on Monday with signs and megaphones shouting for the illegals to go home?


76 posted on 04/25/2006 12:12:18 PM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: underwiredsupport

ping


77 posted on 04/25/2006 12:14:44 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Look at profile for current ways to deal with illegals immigration)
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To: underwiredsupport

Here's another good thread about the subject:

WE CAN MAKE THEM GO HOME ON THEIR OWN!
boortz.com ^ | April 25, 2006 | Neal Boortz

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1621078/posts


78 posted on 04/25/2006 12:16:09 PM PDT by LucyT ("Whether it's the best of times or the worst of times, it's the only time we've got." Art Buchwald)
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To: inquest

`why would they go home . . where they cannot get jobs to feed . .' ya da ya ya da

That's Mexico's problem, not ours. We've already shipped a lot of jobs south and need to worry about keeping what's left for Americans.
Wait, the global economy and all that. Never mind:
"They . . . are . . . doing . . . jobs . . . Americans . . . won't . . . do." (Beep, beep)


79 posted on 04/25/2006 12:18:00 PM PDT by tumblindice (Danger Will Robinson. That homo Dr. Smith is right behind you. Cabron!)
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To: Dixie Yooper

LOL! A mess it is.


80 posted on 04/25/2006 12:19:36 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Hanging and firing squad, was not deemed cruel or inhumane execution by the writers of that clause.)
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