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Hasidim in sabbath showdown (orthodox rumble in Brooklyn)
New York Daily News ^ | 4/27/2006 | KERRY BURKE, HEIDI EVANS and BILL HUTCHINSON

Posted on 04/27/2006 1:26:56 PM PDT by conserv13

The Satmar religious community was on the brink of civil war yesterday as two sons of the late Grand Rebbe Moses Teitelbaum staked claim to the spiritual leadership of the sect.

The dispute was headed for a showdown at sundown tomorrow when followers of both brothers plan to flock to Brooklyn to celebrate the Sabbath in the streets of Williamsburg.

Aron Teitelbaum, eldest son of the grand rebbe, claimed to have support of 75% of the 120,000 Satmar followers, including sect leaders from Israel, Canada, the United Kingdom and Australia.

"A ceremony proclaiming Rabbi Aron Teitelbaum's appointment will be held in the coming weeks in Williamsburg, Brooklyn," said a statement from Aron Teitelbaum's congregation in Kiryas Joel, Orange County.

Aron Teitelbaum, 57, has vowed to move his official residence to Williamsburg, where his brother, Zalmen, is head of the local Satmar congregation.

But on Tuesday, a rabbinical court deemed Zalmen the new grand rebbe in accordance with his father's will. Zalmen, appointed by his father to head the Williamsburg flock, accepted the mantle.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: brooklyn; hasidic; judaism; nyc; orthodox; satmar
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To: Suzy Quzy

Obviously not. Satmers follow their leader in everything. So if they dispute who is the leader, they are not the same religious group.

Satmers are creeps in any event.


21 posted on 04/27/2006 5:15:24 PM PDT by Sabramerican (I thought I was voting for George. I voted for Bandar.)
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To: conserv13

For some reason, I have a mental image of these guys getting their wrists tied together and going at each other with circumcision knives, like the guys in Michael Jackson's "Beat It" video.


22 posted on 04/27/2006 5:19:27 PM PDT by RichInOC (...sorry...was I bad?)
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To: Sabramerican

Right....since they are Holocause DENIERS, why would ANYONE not think they are creeps?


23 posted on 04/27/2006 5:22:55 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Suzy Quzy

It goes much further.

They are not Holocaust deniers. They suffered as much as anyone. My mother has Satmers in her family.

They are creeps.

As by the way are Holocaust deniers. You one?


24 posted on 04/27/2006 5:27:45 PM PDT by Sabramerican (I thought I was voting for George. I voted for Bandar.)
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To: Suzy Quzy
they are Holocause DENIERS

They are not Holocaust DENIERS, SuzyQ, I know plenty of Satmars who are Holocaust SURVIVORS.

25 posted on 04/27/2006 5:33:23 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 140-144)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Tom Monaghan wants to build a Roman VCtholic town. So what?


26 posted on 04/27/2006 10:11:22 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Not exactly. Catholics amd Protestants are both Christian, and are both different.


27 posted on 04/27/2006 10:13:29 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: sheik yerbouty
He's not ALLOWED to now due to leftists outrage!!! Double Standard???? I also doubt if he would have gotten Federal, State and City MILLIONS of dollars!!

Look, half od my family is Jewish and they think this is outrageous.

28 posted on 04/28/2006 9:02:17 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Alouette

I mispoke..they are Holocaust BLAMERS...according to this story.....if the story is wrong, sorry. Did you read where it said they blame the holocaust on the Jews?? Hideous.


29 posted on 04/28/2006 9:03:46 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Sabramerican
You are SICK if you think I am a holocaust denier...half of my family is Jewish,,,,I probably would have had MORE family had it not been for the holocaust.

Just because of criticsm of this sect of Jews, and they don't sound very GODLY, you would call me a holocaust denier???? I think that's very strange because you yourself called them creeps. They are Holocaust BLAMERS...I did misspeak.

30 posted on 04/28/2006 9:06:59 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Mr. Monaghan modified his plans, I suspect, to avoid adverse publicity. That does not have the force of law. How does having alleged Jewish relatives, make your allegations credible? BTW, I'm not a fan of the Satmars at all. The only real issue at hand, in my mind is the apparent hooliganism. As to their living in a separate town, Barry Goldwarer said: "The right to associate, has with it, the right not to associate."


31 posted on 04/28/2006 9:21:46 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Suzy Quzy

I think you doth protest too much.

Explain why you give a S#&T about what this particular sect thinks. How exactly does it impact on your quality of life?

They are not flying airliners into skyscrapers, kidnapping hostages and sawing their heads off, or burning down neighborhoods over some cartoons.


32 posted on 04/28/2006 9:31:50 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 145-150)
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To: sheik yerbouty; Alouette

Ok...you win...you beat me down. As a non Jew I will never make a comment about any Jew. Have a nice day.


33 posted on 04/28/2006 12:17:45 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: sheik yerbouty; Alouette

Ok...you win...you beat me down. As a non Jew I will never make a comment about any Jew. Have a nice day.


34 posted on 04/28/2006 12:17:49 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: sheik yerbouty; Alouette

Ok...you win...you beat me down. As a non Jew I will never make a comment about any Jew. Have a nice day.


35 posted on 04/28/2006 12:17:58 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Sabramerican

Geez, that was centuries ago. Welcome to the 21st century


36 posted on 04/28/2006 12:20:50 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Suzy Quzy

You give up easily, don't you?


37 posted on 04/28/2006 12:31:54 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Alouette

Again, you are right on the money!


38 posted on 04/28/2006 12:32:39 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: sheik yerbouty

Yes, I give into people's hurt feelings.


39 posted on 04/28/2006 12:39:06 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: AppyPappy

Well on the one hand the Satmers also live in a world of centuries ago.

On the other hand, was the sectarian violence of Ireland centuries ago?


40 posted on 04/28/2006 12:43:17 PM PDT by Sabramerican (I thought I was voting for George. I voted for Bandar.)
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