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House/Senate Conference: Hassert Turning His Back On Us????
Federation for American Immigration Reform ^ | April 27, 2006 | Michael Katz

Posted on 04/27/2006 1:37:09 PM PDT by Mike10542

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IMO, there is only one way this issue will get turned around and that's if there is trouble at any or all of these marches, if or when any number of people decide to gather their courage and counter protest, letting the voices of the majority of americans against amnesty be heard. Previous protests took us by surprise. This time, the more their plans are 'announced' in the media, the angrier people are getting about it.

Should national guard have to be called out across this country, I think our leadership would go from being the cowards they are, to facing, in immediate and realtime, the reality of what their ignorance has brought upon this country and the threat that really lies behind those American flags. They will see these people for who they are, invaders DEMANDING from us what is NOT theirs for the taking. Individual cities and their law enforcement have permitted the gathering of numbers far beyond their control, creating a security nightmare. As far as I'm concerned, by doing so, they are unprepared for a worse case scenario that could happen all across this country, endangering the lives of everyone and the govt. has no one to blame but themselves.

D.C. needs a wake up call and as 'distressing' as it would be, they just might get it on, coincidentally, Mayday.


41 posted on 04/27/2006 4:51:08 PM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

I gave you the wrong article. I am looking for the one on CFR that tells how Bush, Fox and Canada made an agreement to more or less eliminate the borders as we know them. Damn, I can't find it. I will keep looking.

Anyway, how can the politicians be so stupid. If you and I believe we know the ramifications of globalization (and I don't know about you but I am NO rocket scientist) how can they not know. It is very discouraging. I do believe we will be a third world country waiting for China to take over.


42 posted on 04/27/2006 4:51:16 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th (Send-a-Brick.com. Send a brick to Washington to help build a wall on the Southern border.)
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To: georgia2006

"Constitution party doesnt support thw WOT or war in Iraq."

So you support spending thousands of lives and 300 billion dollars to create a Shiite-led Iraq that is an Iranian puppet state? Because that's what it's going to be the second we finally leave there. I think our strategic situation was better before the war- at least Saddam was a counterweight to Iran.

I have no problem with the Constitution Party's position on Iraq. I support the Afghanistan war- if they don't then that's something we disagree on but no party is going to support everything I do.


43 posted on 04/27/2006 4:56:42 PM PDT by Altair333 (Proud Constitution Party voter upon passage of amnesty)
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To: Trout-Mouth

Canada seems to be going in the opposite direction lately. If there's going to be a merger expect it to be between the US and Mexico. We have very little historical ties to that country other than being a neighbor but there's just too much cheap labor down there for the big corporations to ignore. And they have lots of oil.


44 posted on 04/27/2006 4:56:53 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Altair333

thank you for so succently articulating why I will never vote CP...BTW the CP doesnt support the war in afghanistan either.


45 posted on 04/27/2006 4:58:48 PM PDT by georgia2006
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

This is not the exact article because the one I saw gives dates specific of an agreement but this one is similar. I am sure you probably have seen it. Couple this with the Trilateral Commission and I fear we are doomed.

"March 14, 2005 - Three former high-ranking government officials from Canada, Mexico, and the United States are calling for a North American economic and security community by 2010 to address shared security threats, challenges to competitiveness, and interest in broad-based development across the three countries." Quote from below link.

http://cfr.org/publication/7914/trinational_call_for_a_north_american_economic_and_security_community_by_2010.html

If you read this and then the other link it is a pretty sure thing as far as I am concerned.


46 posted on 04/27/2006 5:19:54 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th (Send-a-Brick.com. Send a brick to Washington to help build a wall on the Southern border.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Found it: http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2005/july05/05-07-13.html


47 posted on 04/27/2006 5:31:49 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th (Send-a-Brick.com. Send a brick to Washington to help build a wall on the Southern border.)
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To: Trout-Mouth

Yes I've read that, thanks for the link. Schlafly has also written about it. We now have William Weld, who had his hand in that running for governor of NY. He needs a one-way ticket back to wherever he came from.


48 posted on 04/27/2006 5:40:53 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: nicmarlo

I'm calling them all tomorrow morning.

Thanks.


49 posted on 04/27/2006 6:13:55 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((Immigration: Acting like dupes does not earn us their respect, but their CONTEMPT.))
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To: Trout-Mouth

Yep.


50 posted on 04/27/2006 6:15:32 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((Immigration: Acting like dupes does not earn us their respect, but their CONTEMPT.))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

yw. Good luck!


52 posted on 04/27/2006 6:17:30 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I'm sick of the defeatism in this thread. CALL YOUR STATE REPS AND TELL THEM WHAT YOU WANT AND DEMAND!

Also call these two.

Majority Leader Boehner (R-OH) (513) 779-5400

Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-IL) Office Phone Numbers Speaker’s Office (202) 225-0600 Hastert’s Personal DC Office (202) 225-2976 Batavia District Office (630) 406-1114 Dixon District Office (815) 288-0680

NOW MOVE.


53 posted on 04/27/2006 6:19:10 PM PDT by 0351 (Semper Fi. USMC 0351 '87-'91)
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To: 351

I can almost understand how some might feel depressed. But I lost 2 family members in various wars, defending the honor and freedom of America, and I go down only by my cold dead hands.

Semper Fi


54 posted on 04/27/2006 6:28:29 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((Immigration: Acting like dupes does not earn us their respect, but their CONTEMPT.))
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To: DumpsterDiver; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...


Call Early/Call Often Ping!

Hey, it works with voting, right?

55 posted on 04/27/2006 6:51:16 PM PDT by HiJinx (Secure Our Borders ~ Now.)
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To: georgia2006
Constitution party doesnt support thw WOT or war in Iraq.

What War on Terror? The one where Americans are strip searched and their items pawed through at the airports while thousands of miles of border remain wide open? The one where the government and its friends at Fox News tries to keep us in fear of "terrorists" thousands of miles away to distract us from all the ones walking in via Canada and Mexico?

56 posted on 04/27/2006 8:17:13 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Trout-Mouth
If they can shut down the country for one day don't you think they will use their power to get better wages when they get their way with amnesty?

But of course! If the illegal aliens are naturalized, won't they demand health care, retirement bennies, paid vacation, family leave and sick days? In fact they won't have to demand it the law would require it wouldn't it? The employers will let them go and hire all new illegal foreign nationals who will be coming here in a ratio of 3-1, like last time amnesty was granted, because of what they see has just happened. Again.

58 posted on 04/27/2006 8:44:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: Altair333
I will be voting for the Constitution Party from now on.

If all you do is vote, it doesn't really matter who you vote for. If you are serious about the Constitution party, you need to get busy, reforming the ballot access laws in about 40 states. Until all states have equal ballot access, for all partys, the Constitution party will remain irrelevant.

59 posted on 04/27/2006 8:48:55 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: Reaganwuzthebest; All
Tancredo and the rest of them fought the good fight...

The fight is not over yet! Tancredo, Hayworth and the rest of the 90 + members of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus (CIRC) still have a very powerful ace up their sleeve, if they are willing to use it.

What they have to do is first go up to Hastert and warn him that if he packs the House side of the Conference Committee with those who favor amnesty, then they will do the following:

1. Immediately announce that they are publicly withdrawing their voting support for Speaker Hastert, probably by temporarily leaving the Republican Caucus. That would mean that Speaker Hastert would no longer have the majority of votes in the House to remain speaker. Remember, for voting on the Speaker of the House, the whole house votes for the Speaker, not just the majority party. Remember the bru ha ha a few years back when a Democrat crossed party lines to vote for Hastert as Speaker.

2. This would then force Hastert out as Speaker immediately, since he no longer has the majority of the House backing him as Speaker.

3. There would then be two possibilities of this:

a. This would mean that if the GOP wants the next Speaker to be from the GOP for the rest of this Congress, then they had better pick someone who the CIRC approves of. The CIRC can really show some leverage here, either they will cast their votes for someone who agrees with them on immigration or if they do not support whom the rest of the GOP puts up as Hasterts replacement, they then can:

b. The CIRC membership does not cast a vote for Speaker, sits out the election and Pelosi picks up the Speakership by default (YIKES). I doubt the rats would vote to retain Hastert or any other Republican as speaker.

The CIRC potentially holds an awful lot of leverage and power here, if they are willing to exercise it. I suggest we all contact the members of the CIRC and remind them of this. Give them the encouragement they need to pull this off. Below is the link to the CIRC membership where you can get contact info for their members:

http://tancredo.house.gov/irc/members.html

I know this is a stretch, but it can happen and should happen (option a. above, hopefully), if this story is true and Hastert intends on selling the American People out. If this story is true, then Hastert deserves to be fired IMMEDIATELY by his House collegues. Contact the CIRC members immediately and remind them of this.

60 posted on 04/27/2006 8:56:39 PM PDT by AmericaOne (Borders, Language and Culture - You Don't Have These, You Don't Have A Country)
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