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[Dover] Trial witness discusses evolution [Kenneth Miller]
U of Missouri student paper (The Maneater) ^ | 28 April 2006 | Jacob Stokes

Posted on 04/28/2006 7:59:55 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

Thousands of MU students shuddered in fear Thursday as Kenneth Miller, one of the co-authors of the Miller and Levine textbook series — a widely used high school biology text — spoke on campus.

But Miller didn’t come to put freshman biology students to sleep with discourses on flagellum — he came to speak about what he sees as the falsities that make up theories of intelligent design. His lecture, “God, Darwin and Design: America’s New Battle Over Evolution,” used scientific evidence to denounce arguments commonly used by intelligent-design advocates.

Goateed and slightly balding, Miller wore a brown belt and all-black Nikes with a black suit. What he lacked in fashion sense, he made up with an Ivy League professor’s knowledge of biology. Miller had a message.

“Everything in science should be approached with an open mind, not just evolution,” Miller said.

Miller was the lead witness in Kitzmiller et al. v Dover Area School District et al., the first direct challenge brought in a U.S. federal court against a public school district that required the presentation of intelligent design as an alternative to evolution and as an explanation of the origin of life. Federal Judge John Jones III, an appointee of President George Bush, ruled for the plaintiff in the case.

Miller has appeared on a diverse spectrum of television programs including NOVA and the Colbert Report. In addition to the textbooks, Miller has written a book entitled “Finding Darwin’s God: A Scientist’s Search for Common Ground Between God and Evolution.”

The lecture addressed many of the issues touted by intelligent-design proponents as holes in the theory of evolution. These issues included missing links in the evolutionary chain and the genetic uniqueness of the human species.

Miller showed diagrams of species that followed one another down the evolutionary chain and explained how the inner ear of those mammals’ ear bones evolved to hear better underwater. Miller said he views these developments as evidence of evolution.

The opposition did not show up to Miller’s lecture, but he still addressed what he said he sees as the poor theological background for intelligent design.

Miller said that not everyone who supports intelligent design is a biblical literalist. He said the debate represents more of a culture war than a scientific debate. He said many people have characterized the battle between intelligent-design and evolution proponents as a battle between religion and secularism.

Miller said he doesn’t agree.

He said he thinks that religion and evolution can coincide. In fact, he said, they support each other. Miller, a Roman Catholic, used quotations from Pope Benedict II and Sts. Augustine and Thomas Aquinas to support his argument that evolution and religion can work together.

Professor of biochemistry Frank Schmidt organized Miller’s visit to campus.

“Miller is a remarkable example of a scientist as a civic servant. He’s a remarkable example for the students,” Schmidt said.

A coalition of organizations, including the Biochemistry Department and the Science Teachers of Missouri, sponsored the event held at the Monsanto Auditorium in the Life Sciences Center.


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Gentle reminder: Now hear this: No personal attacks (title of thread posted 15 March 2006 by Jim Robinson).
1 posted on 04/28/2006 7:59:58 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
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and How to argue against a scientific theory.

2 posted on 04/28/2006 8:01:11 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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3 posted on 04/28/2006 8:01:37 AM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: PatrickHenry
The opposition did not show up to Miller’s lecture

That is unfortunate. They could have learned from this man.

4 posted on 04/28/2006 8:14:47 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer

There's a first time for everything.


5 posted on 04/28/2006 8:19:57 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: RadioAstronomer
They could have learned from this man.

Yes, and Colmes might learn from Hannity. But it never seems to work out that way.

6 posted on 04/28/2006 8:22:49 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Miller wore a brown belt and all-black Nikes with a black suit.

That's all we need to know about this man's qualifications to recognize design.

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7 posted on 04/28/2006 8:28:26 AM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
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To: Gumlegs; PatrickHenry

Sigh. (LOL!)


8 posted on 04/28/2006 8:31:29 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: VadeRetro
That's all we need to know about this man's qualifications to recognize design.

Not without the Rolex!!!

9 posted on 04/28/2006 8:32:06 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: PatrickHenry
The lecture addressed many of the issues touted by intelligent-design proponents as holes in the theory of evolution.

Thank you Kenneth Miller. Now, the only holes left to plug are the ones the intelligent-design proponents have between their ears!

10 posted on 04/28/2006 9:00:36 AM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: PatrickHenry
Miller said that not everyone who supports intelligent design is a biblical literalist.

But nevertheless, Biblical literalism is the only relevant driving force behind this whole thing. Miller's statement reminds me of the people who insist that Islam is not at the root of terrorism.

11 posted on 04/28/2006 9:05:19 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: RadioAstronomer

If you want the truth...ICR.org


12 posted on 04/28/2006 9:13:32 AM PDT by Dr. I. C. Spots
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To: Dr. I. C. Spots

What's ICR?


13 posted on 04/28/2006 9:17:30 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: freedumb2003
What's ICR?

Prominent on their home page:

Welcome to the
Institute for Creation Research

We believe God has raised up ICR to spearhead Biblical Christianity's defense against the godless and compromising dogma of evolutionary humanism. Only by showing the scientific bankruptcy of evolution...


14 posted on 04/28/2006 9:20:53 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Interim tagline: The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: Physicist
[Miller said that not everyone who supports intelligent design is a biblical literalist.]
But nevertheless, Biblical literalism is the only relevant driving force behind this whole thing.

Yes, despite transparently disingenuous claims to the contrary, it's the chief force behind ID in the US. But as I like to point out, ID works quite well as a stand-alone religion, e.g., the Raelians, a sect based entirely on ID.

ID fits comfortably as a component of other religions as well. The Hare Krishnas reject Darwinian evolution, and their website has this article: The Intelligent Designer. And followers of followers Islam are happy with ID: Why Muslims Should Support Intelligent Design, By Mustafa Akyol.

15 posted on 04/28/2006 9:22:14 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: Coyoteman
We believe God has raised up ICR to spearhead Biblical Christianity's defense against the godless and compromising dogma of evolutionary humanism.

LOL! That's doggone funny!

I guess I shouldn't have asked but I don't like to just go off to websites without having a feeling for what the content is...

16 posted on 04/28/2006 9:23:42 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: PatrickHenry
And followers of followers Islam are happy with ID: Why Muslims Should Support Intelligent Design, By Mustafa Akyol.

Just don't have any cartoons of the process ;)

17 posted on 04/28/2006 9:25:20 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: freedumb2003
It is convenient, though. Once you believe God has raised you up, you must be right because God has raised you up.
18 posted on 04/28/2006 9:31:21 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs
Once you believe God has raised you up, you must be right because God has raised you up.

I think I will use that as an example of begging the question when I nag someone about using "begs the question" in place of "raises the question."

19 posted on 04/28/2006 9:37:25 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: PatrickHenry

Ping for later read.


20 posted on 04/28/2006 9:45:44 AM PDT by Paddlefish ("You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help.")
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