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The Rehabilitation of the Cold-War Liberal (dangerous liberal alert - he makes some sense - long)
NY Times ^ | April 30, 2006 | PETER BEINART

Posted on 04/30/2006 2:40:44 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem
On global warming, an America liberated from international restraint has acted irresponsibly

Only if you believe (as does the author) that damaging the US economy in an ill-conceived cosmetic scheme that will have no tangible effect on the Earth's climate is "acting responsibly".

21 posted on 04/30/2006 4:35:07 PM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: Fruit of the Spirit
Please do not post excerpt only articles in any way, shape, manner or form again.

AM

22 posted on 04/30/2006 5:12:18 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: neverdem

When I can take the time, I will repost this with every lie, mis-statement, incorrect historical view, and incorrect perspective this guy has.

Who does this guy represent - TNR - The New Republic - a liberal magazine that was first, last and always Al Gore's most constant supporter in the media.

Mr. Beinarts problems stem mostly from the fact that like a true liberal, he believes their own myths.


23 posted on 04/30/2006 5:12:24 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Chi-townChief
In 2004, John Kerry substituted biography for ideology, largely ignoring his own extensive foreign-policy record...

3rd sentence...That's good ?
24 posted on 04/30/2006 5:16:41 PM PDT by stylin19a (I never put my foot in my mouth...I shoot that sucker off long before it gets anywhere near my mouth)
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To: neverdem; rmlew; Yehuda; Clemenza; PARodrig; RaceBannon
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/30/magazine/30liberal.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

A cardinal mistake. I have always argued that like our opponents we should export our ideology, not by imposing it, but by educating people in it. We haven't even done that simple act. The checks and balances that our republic affords. the staggered elections to prevent a "tyranny of the majority" etc.. Instead we are making the same mistake in Iraq by allowing a "parliamentary democracy system", the same system that brought us WWI, WWII and Hitler and Bolshevism to Europe. The same failed system that is leading Europe down the primrose path to extinction to prevail. We should translate the "Federalist Papers" into every known language and drop it from airplanes onto the populations. Heck, we should mandate that every American read it.

It pains me to no end the fact that most Americans are ignorant of the principles upon which this country was founded.



25 posted on 04/30/2006 9:32:16 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cacique
In 1947, when the Truman administration announced the Marshall Plan to help rebuild postwar Western Europe, he resisted using the aid to recast European economies in America's image. Indeed, his administration assisted socialist parties, recognizing that while they might not always prove ideologically pliant, they represented home-grown bulwarks against Soviet power.

quote I was refering to above



26 posted on 04/30/2006 9:34:21 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cacique

I agree with your comments about parliamentary democracies. Unicameral legislatures have similar problems. They are way to prone to mobocracy.


27 posted on 04/30/2006 9:46:50 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: wagglebee

Beinart ignores that the Democratic Party always had its "progressive" left which was in sympathy with the Communists. Just looks at the way it defended Castro's dictatorship . By refusing to support Humphrey in 1968, they caused his defeat and in 1972 they took over the Party. Since that time their thinking has dominated the Party. After Nixon's fall in 1974, they took over the Congress and caused the overthrow of the South Vietnamese governmment. To this day they refuse look at what misery they caused the Vietnamese people.


28 posted on 04/30/2006 9:56:08 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: The Electrician; Leapfrog; Brad's Gramma; Calpernia; Cobra64; onyx; peace; Baynative; wagglebee; ...

Republicans are working to protect America from terrorists, tyrants, and totalitarians; Democrats are working to protect terrorists, tyrants, and totalitarians from America...



SPOT ON!!!


29 posted on 04/30/2006 10:16:59 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

BUMP and === placemark === for tomorry.


30 posted on 04/30/2006 10:18:03 PM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody! --- FACTS DON'T MATTER.)
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To: Admin Moderator

Please remove my name from the Free Republic list.

I will log off and never come back.


31 posted on 04/30/2006 10:32:10 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: Clintonfatigued; Chi-townChief

Go to Google News and type in "The Rehabilitation of the Cold-War Liberal" it'll get you in.

http://news.google.com/news?q=%22The%20Rehabilitation%20of%20the%20Cold-War%20Liberal%22&ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&sa=N&tab=dn


32 posted on 05/01/2006 6:46:17 AM PDT by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: neverdem
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"Liberals don't have a script because they don't have a Reagan. Since Vietnam, they've produced two presidents: Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. Carter's foreign policy is widely considered a failure. Clinton's foreign policy is not widely considered at all, because he governed at a time when foreign policy was for the most part peripheral to American politics. Ask liberals to describe a Carteresque foreign policy, and they tend to wince. Ask them to describe a Clintonesque one, and you'll most likely get a blank stare."
33 posted on 05/01/2006 6:51:38 AM PDT by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: Valin

Actually, Clinton did have a significant impact on foreign policy. He sold nuclear weapons technology for campaign contributions and emasculated the intelligence services. The effects of these and other policies are still being felt to this very day.


34 posted on 05/01/2006 9:16:23 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Bob Taft for Impeachment)
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To: Valin
Ask them to describe a Clintonesque [foreign policy], and you'll most likely get a blank stare.

Possible, but only because it suits them.

The task isn't challenging at all.

A typical Clintonesque foreign policy example: support for the Albanian (Mohammedan) terrorists against Christian Serbs.

35 posted on 05/02/2006 3:35:03 AM PDT by Neophyte (Nazis, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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