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White House: Forget gas-tax cut (won't solve high energy prices over long haul, economist says)
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Posted on 05/02/2006 6:54:25 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON – Cutting gasoline taxes is not a good way for the country to deal with soaring energy prices, President Bush's top economist said Tuesday.

“One of the things we worry about when we cut the tax on gasoline is that it basically stimulates additional use,” said Edward Lazear, chairman of the White House's Council of Economic Advisers.

“Over a longer period of time, it would be a significant problem ... because what it would do is it would encourage us to use more oil, not less and that is the way we got to the situation right now,” he explained. “That probably is one of the policies that we would like to avoid,” he said. Lazear's comments come as lawmakers on Capitol Hill grapple with ways to provide Americans with relief from rising energy prices.

Oil prices hit a record high of over $75 a barrel in late April; they are now hovering above $74 a barrel. Gasoline prices, meanwhile, are topping $3 a gallon in some areas.

Democrats have promoted the idea of a “tax holiday” by suspending the 18.4-cent-a-gallon federal gasoline tax for 60 days.

Lazear also raised questions about another idea that has been advocated by Republicans: providing a $100 gasoline rebate to millions of motorists.

“The administration is studying that proposal. It doesn't have the same kind of direct adverse consequence that we just talked about” in terms of a cut in the gasoline tax, he said.

“But there are other issues that we have to think about – is that the best way to be using our tax revenues? Is it the most efficient way to allocate our resources? And so there are a number of issues that are under study on that,” Lazear said of the gasoline rebate.

Lazear made his remarks during a wide-ranging question-and-answer session following a speech that explored, among other things, the gap between the wages of skilled and unskilled workers in the United States.

That wage gap has been visible for decades and “shows no obvious signs of abating in the near future,” he said. Improving the education and skills of workers is one important way to help the situation, he said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: energy; forget; gasprices; gastax; longhaul
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1 posted on 05/02/2006 6:54:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Drill ANWR


2 posted on 05/02/2006 6:56:42 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: wolf24

Ah, but if we don't spend the money on government corruption, then we have more money to spend on alternative solutions.

A tax cut moves spending from Friedman Category 4 (spend C spends A's money on B) to Friedman Category 1 (A spends A's money on A).

That would be a great increase in efficiency!


5 posted on 05/02/2006 7:02:58 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (The MG-42 has a rate of fire of 1300 rounds per minute.)
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To: NormsRevenge
How about lifting the ethanol tariff?

Increasing ethanol supply would at least prevent the cost burden brought on by this MTBE-to-ethanol change. Plus, it could result in some cooperation with Brazil that could lead to some good ethanol technology exchanges.

7 posted on 05/02/2006 7:09:21 PM PDT by SunnyD1182
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To: SunnyD1182

The purpose of ethanol is less to clean the air, and more to increase the price of corn.

But you knew that.


8 posted on 05/02/2006 7:11:13 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (The MG-42 has a rate of fire of 1300 rounds per minute.)
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To: NormsRevenge

article also on the net titled

Bush Economist: Gas Tax Cut Not the Answer


9 posted on 05/02/2006 7:14:30 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge

Personally, I think that most of any gas tax cut would go into the pockets of the oil companies. It's not going to reduce demand, so why would it reduce the price unless it increases supply? And why would it increase supply, given the tight market conditions we've already got? It would have no short term affect on supply, and in the long run, the higher margins oil companies are already earning would be enough to motivate production anyway.


If we are going to have a tax cut, it should be an income tax cut.


10 posted on 05/02/2006 7:19:29 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Wrong. Any tax cut is good conservative policy. Same goes for spending reform on welfare entitlement programs. Good conservative policy.


11 posted on 05/02/2006 7:27:55 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Reagan Man

If you cut the gas tax, and the price doesn't fall, that is not good conservative policy, and it's not good politics. In fact, it's a conservative nightmare that the Dems will rant about for months. If you cut the income tax, then you don't worry about whether it filtered down to the consumer in the form of a price cut at the pump.


12 posted on 05/02/2006 7:32:29 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

You're wrong. Taxes are way too high. Everything is taxed. Everything. Most things are taxed two and three times. Reducing taxes is a basic tenet of conservatism. That includes all taxes. Its called fiscal responsibility. The gas tax is a regressive tax effecting low and middle income folks most significantly. Repealing the gas tax for 4-6 months is good politics. Cutting the gas tax permanently is sound conservative policy. Cutting federal income tax rates is also sound conservative policy. The federal governemnt should be satisfied with a 35% maximum federal income tax rate and a $2.8 trillion annual budget. $450 billion in deficits and a $9 trillion debt ceiling is more then enough irresponsible governance. The Feds don't need the 18-cents of federal gas tax.


13 posted on 05/02/2006 7:44:24 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ed Lazear is an excellent economist.

So as he surely knows, the proposed cuts in (or elimination of) retail taxes on gasoline aren't likely to reduce the price paid by the consumer, except maybe for a brief initial period.

That's because the "equilibrium" price is going to be determined by SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

So unless somebody can show me that cutting the retail tax will increase the supply of gasoline, I must conclude that the final price paid by the consumer will remain pretty much the same.

What WILL change with a tax cut is likely to be the short-run distribution of "profits" (or "rents" -- to use proper economic terminology).

Assuming that refiners are now producing at maximum capacity and that after a tax cut they don't raise the price they charge to retailers, and further assuming that government in its wisdom doesn't impose price controls, then a cut in retail taxes will mostly shift "rents" away from the government(s) and toward the retail merchants. That is, the retail price will remain basically the same and retailers will reap a windfall approximately equal to the government's lost tax revenue.

Complications:

(1) If local, state and/or federal authorities apply retail price controls, so as to force prices down to the former level MINUS the foregone taxes, then shortages and gas lines will appear. This outcome is 100% certain.

(2) Prices may begin to fall a bit after a while, to the extent that retailers and their distributors use some of their new rents/profits to bid petroleum away from foreign users -- since such an action will in fact increase our domestic supplies.

(3) Increased revenues in the hands of retailers may gradually "trickle down" to producers, in the form of higher prices that retailers may be willing to pay for fuel from high cost sources, like the Athabascan tar sands of Canada or capped "stripper" wells in the USA. But this effect is likely to take several years before it produces a noticeable increase in supply.

Bottom line: Taxes and tax cuts affect mainly the distribution of revenues between government and the private sector. Prices at retail are determined by supply and demand.

Now repeat after me: SUPPLY AND DEMAND.


14 posted on 05/02/2006 7:47:10 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Reagan Man

Well, we may get to see who's right, you or me.


15 posted on 05/02/2006 7:50:28 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
>>>>Well, we may get to see who's right, you or me.

I return to my original statement. Cutting taxes is good conservative policy. I don't see how that can be wrong.

16 posted on 05/02/2006 7:56:32 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Dog Gone
Drill ANWR

And NPRA and OCS and Bristol Bay and California coastline and Florida coastline and....

17 posted on 05/02/2006 8:53:17 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: NormsRevenge
Cutting gasoline taxes is not a good way for the country to deal with soaring energy prices, President Bush's top economist said Tuesday. “One of the things we worry about when we cut the tax on gasoline is that it basically stimulates additional use,” said Edward Lazear, chairman of the White House's Council of Economic Advisers.

What an absolutely assinine statement. This is typical Washington speak for "Screw you. We want to keep stealing your money through every imaginable tax." Any proposal that they have floated to this date has a goal: relief at the pump. Any relief at the pump no matter what proposal form it takes will stimulate additional use. This guy should be fired for being an idiot.
18 posted on 05/02/2006 8:55:22 PM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: NormsRevenge
A sustained high price and loosened environmental and bureaucratic regs. will bring this "shortage" to a quick end. At these prices everything; tar sands, coal to oil, synthetics, etc, it all makes long term sense.
19 posted on 05/02/2006 8:59:52 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: NormsRevenge
That wage gap has been visible for decades and “shows no obvious signs of abating in the near future,” he said. Improving the education and skills of workers is one important way to help the situation, he said.

I also don't see the wisdom of this statement. Let's assume we have a small class of highly skilled workers making above average salaries. His solution of improving education and skills of large numbers of workers will not help the plight of anyone. If anything you'll end up with highly skilled unemployed workers since business will have the luxury of hiring almost anyone for the same few jobs. Additonally, salaries will fall to below average levels due to competition of the many competing for the scarce jobs. If his solution is to make everyone equally miserable, I guess he has a point.
20 posted on 05/02/2006 9:01:19 PM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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