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Iraq docs show U.S. right on war
Sterling Stir ^ | 4/27/06 | Roy Waggoner

Posted on 05/02/2006 11:01:28 PM PDT by rwfromkansas

In the conventional wisdom, it is now believed that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction when the U.S. invaded three years ago, nor did he have ties to terrorism. If a massive collection of recently-declassified Iraqi government documents provides truthful insight into Saddam’s regime, this conventional wisdom is completely wrong, and war was justified.

The task of translating the vast trove of documents – millions of pages of Arabic text – has largely fallen into private hands. Several of the documents point to ties between Al Qaeda and Iraq, as well as terrorist ambitions by Iraq not connected to Al Qaeda. According to ABC News, one document describes a Saddam-approved meeting between Osama Bin Laden and a representative of Hussein’s government on February 19, 1995.

In the meeting, the two discussed "carrying out joint operations against foreign forces" in Saudi Arabia. While no agreement to launch attacks was made at the first meeting, the two parties were supportive of a terrorist partnership.

Also, in a November 22, 1999 document addressed to the intelligence director, the Iraqi “senior chemist” notes that the budget for the year 2000 included a plan to train “Arab fedayeen,” code for foreign terrorist fighters. A 2003 memo just prior to war discusses a recommendation to use Saddam-financed foreign fighters as suicide bombers. In an April 4, 2003 wartime document, Saddam orders that these foreign fighters be treated the same as real Iraqi fighters in terms of pay, so at least some of the recommendation to support foreign terrorists was approved by Saddam’s government. In terms of Saddam’s ties to terrorist attacks outside Iraq, a March 2001 document contains a military general’s order to find “volunteer[s] for suicide action to liberate Palestine and strike American interests.”

This document proves Iraq had terrorist ambitions against the United States long before the war. It supports the claim of Russian President Putin that Iraq was planning a terrorist attack against America prior to the 2003 conflict.

What about weapons of mass destruction? Though fewer documents have been translated describing WMD programs, some have been translated and support the idea Saddam had active WMD programs (effectiveness unknown) until the war. Nuclear-wise, a 2002 Baath Party document highlights a meeting that year between Iraqi nuclear scientists and Saddam Hussein himself and mentions his Atomic Energy program, a euphemism for nuclear weapons program. Also, several other memos from 2001 and 2002 describe another nuclear project, the building of a nuclear reactor based on the destroyed TAMUZ reactor. The project was stopped right before United Nations weapons inspectors arrived.

Another document describes the destruction of documents related to Saddam’s nuclear program. The 2002 document records the destruction of the primary archives of the Atomic Energy Commission just prior to UN weapons inspectors coming to Iraq. Another memo describes the relocation of sensitive WMD documents from the Iraqi National Monitoring Agency in 2002. The memo refers to “special equipment,” which was one word the Iraqi government used to refer to chemical weapons in previous documents.

The other word used to describe chemical weapons was “special ammunition,” and the term appears in a March 2003 memo detailing the movement of weapons from a depot in Najaf to one in Baghdad. The type of shells mentioned in the memo, 122 mm, 130 mm, and 155 mm, have been used in the past by Iraq for chemical weapons. The “special ammunition” designation only makes sense as well if the shells (which are nothing special as conventional weapons) have a special type of contained explosive, and that most likely was chemical weapons. The same document states the weapons were to be transferred to a suspected chemical weapons site, Al-Musayyib.

The evidence for Saddam’s terrorist ties and WMD programs is much stronger with the release and translation of these documents. Conventional wisdom about Iraq may yet turn out to be incorrect.

The released documents are available online at: fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/products-docex.htm

You may view translations at: www.freerepublic.com/~jveritas


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; iraqdocs; iraqdocuments; iraqiintelligence; jveritas; prewardocs; prewarintelligence; saddam; terrorist; wmd
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To: rwfromkansas

conventional wisdom?

If this comes from the Left, I would hardly call it 'wisdom'!


21 posted on 05/03/2006 5:30:12 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: rwfromkansas

Never had a doubt.


22 posted on 05/03/2006 5:40:06 AM PDT by IrishMike (Dry Powder is a plus)
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To: rwfromkansas

I wrote this column for my college newspaper

I'll (along with others here) be interested in the feed back you get. Please let us know.


23 posted on 05/03/2006 5:55:48 AM PDT by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: rwfromkansas

Thank you for putting effort into this. You're on the front lines, my friend.


24 posted on 05/03/2006 6:37:33 AM PDT by Theo
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To: rwfromkansas

Well deserved Bump!


25 posted on 05/03/2006 6:40:34 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!)
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To: rwfromkansas

Great work, thanks


26 posted on 05/03/2006 7:59:40 AM PDT by RayRobisonblog
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To: Spanaway Lori

Nothing would be coming out without his translations. I just tried to summarize a lot of what the documents show for a college audience that usually can't stand too much detail.

But, I think I did it well enough most who really want the truth will be intrigued enough to look at the actual documents.


27 posted on 05/03/2006 8:48:12 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: driftless

Exactly. ABC only mentioned it once on their website...that is the only mention I could find of these in the MSM.

I put that mention in my piece since I wanted people reading who might be skeptical to see it has at least been mentioned by the MSM. But, it is ridiculous how this is being ignored.


28 posted on 05/03/2006 8:49:44 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

The school is fairly conservative, so I shouldn't have that problem.

I did have somebody come up to me and ask where the proof the translations are correct is at, but I informed him my first document translation came straight from ABC News, and it fit with what jveritas was putting out as well.


29 posted on 05/03/2006 8:56:34 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: wolfcreek

lol..good point


30 posted on 05/03/2006 8:57:00 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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31 posted on 05/03/2006 9:08:36 AM PDT by eyespysomething
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A great article by fellow FReeper rwfromkansas!!


Iraq docs show U.S. right on war

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32 posted on 05/03/2006 9:12:57 AM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: eyespysomething

you only pinged me there. :)


33 posted on 05/03/2006 10:01:41 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: rwfromkansas; jveritas; Chena; Valin; M. Thatcher; DocRock; Calpernia; Madame Dufarge; Txsleuth; ...
D'uh! Here's muh sign!

Folks, ping to Post #32

34 posted on 05/03/2006 10:08:00 AM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: rwfromkansas
"I wrote this column for my college newspaper."

I'm afraid you'll never make it in the media world....you've done way too much research to be considered for a position! (sarcasm)

35 posted on 05/03/2006 10:11:58 AM PDT by oust the louse
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To: rwfromkansas

Thank you! BTTT


36 posted on 05/03/2006 10:12:48 AM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: eyespysomething
D'uh! Here's muh sign!

LOL! Thanks again, eyespy! You're awesome....with our without the sign. ;)

37 posted on 05/03/2006 10:14:51 AM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: rwfromkansas

I was about to suggest that someone send this to Chrissy Matthews at MSNBC, but that would be absurd since he and that network know full well their lies regarding 'no WMDs in Iraq' are just that, LIES. MSNBC has proven repeatedly that they don't give a damn what the truth is so long As they can get away with manipulating the voters of this country to support the treacherous/treasonous democrap party. And make no mistake, the CEOs of that network are the reason Matthews can continue with his lies and treachery.


38 posted on 05/03/2006 10:22:03 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN

You mean the folks at General Electric?


39 posted on 05/03/2006 11:25:20 AM PDT by lugsoul ("Crash" - the movie that teaches we are all incurable racists, except when we are not.)
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To: rwfromkansas

Good work! The more exposure to jveritas' translations the better!

Thanks!


40 posted on 05/03/2006 11:35:49 AM PDT by Shelayne (Antique Media--losing value everyday...)
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