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New Poll: Americans Prefer House Approach on Immigration
U.S. Newswire ^ | 5-3-2006 | Steven Camarota

Posted on 05/03/2006 7:45:44 PM PDT by nckerr

WASHINGTON, May 3 /U.S. Newswire/ -- A new Zogby poll of likely voters, using neutral language (i.e., avoiding the words "amnesty" or "illegal alien"), finds that Americans prefer the House of Representatives' enforcement-only bill by 2-1 over Senate proposals to legalize illegal immigrants and greatly increase legal immigration. The poll was conducted for the Center for Immigration Studies. Complete results are on line at:

http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/2006poll.html.

-- On immigration generally, Americans want less, not more, immigration. Only 26 percent said immigrants were assimilating fine and that immigration should continue at current levels, compared to 67 percent who said immigration should be reduced so we can assimilate those already here.

-- While the Senate is considering various bills that would increase legal immigration from 1 million to 2 million a year, only 2 percent of Americans believe current immigration is too low. This was true for virtually every grouping in the survey by ethnicity, income, age, religion, region, party, or ideology.

-- When offered by itself, there is strong support for the House bill: 69 percent said it was a good or very good idea when told that it tries to make illegals go home by fortifying the border, forcing employer verification, and encouraging greater cooperation with local law enforcement, while not increasing legal immigration; 27 percent said it was a bad or very bad idea.

-- Support for the House approach was widespread, with 81 percent of Republicans, 72 percent of independents, 57 percent of Democrats, and 53 percent of Hispanics saying it was good or very good idea.

-- When offered by itself, there is also some support for the Senate approach, though not as much as for the House bill: 42 percent said the Senate approach was a good or very good idea when told it would allow illegal immigrants to apply for legal status provided they met certain criteria, and it would significantly increase legal immigration and increase enforcement of immigration laws; 50 percent said it was a bad or very bad idea.

-- There were few groups in which a majority supported the Senate plan, even when presented by itself. Exceptions included Hispanics, 62 percent of whom said it was a good or very good idea, and the most liberal voters (progressives), 54 percent of whom approved of it.

-- When given three choices (House approach, Senate approach, or mass deportation), the public tends to reject both the Senate plan and mass deportations in favor of the House bill; 28 percent want the Senate plan, 12 percent want mass deportations, while 56 percent want the House approach.

-- But when given a choice between just the House and Senate approaches, without the choice of mass deportations, the public prefers the House approach 64 percent to 30 percent.

-- One reason the public does not like legalization is that they are skeptical of the need for illegal-immigrant labor. An overwhelming majority of 77 percent said there are plenty of Americans to fill low-wage jobs if employers pay more and treat workers better; just 15 percent said there are not enough Americans for such jobs.

-- Another reason the public does not like Senate proposals to legalize illegals and double legal immigration is that 73 percent said they had little or no confidence in the ability of the government to screen these additional applicants to weed out terrorists and criminals.

-- The public also does not accept the argument we have tried and failed to enforce the law: 71 percent felt that past enforcement efforts have been "grossly inadequate," while only 19 percent felt we had made a "real effort" to enforce our laws.

The Center for Immigration Studies is an independent, non-partisan research organization which examines and critiques the impact of immigration on the United States.

http://www.usnewswire.com/


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; hr4437; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigrationpoll; immigrationreform; invasionusa; openborders; zogby
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Uh, wrong. The law requires that the PROSECUTION present their argument. None is needed from the defense.

Once again you are so far off base you can't even conceive of the point I made.

How much does it cost to go to court? Just give me hard numbers!

141 posted on 05/03/2006 9:04:05 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

He didn't risk all that to sit in jail and if he thinks things are getting serious he'll leave. By the way , if looks across th room and sees his boss that won't hurt either.


142 posted on 05/03/2006 9:04:19 PM PDT by lonedawg (why does that rag on your head say holiday inn?)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

watch your language.

we have these laws now, for drug dealers and those caught with drugs. do we not? we can argue some other time about whether you like them, but we have them now. and we can use similar laws to punish businesses - repeat offenders who hire illegals.


143 posted on 05/03/2006 9:04:20 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Proudly Republican
I think a very big flag would be the inability to speak English and then credit and reference checks, which are pretty standard.

I know Vietnamese that have been here 20 years who speak very little English, do all their business in cash, and deal only with other Vietnamese.

Besides, you think employers check references on hourly workers? LOL!!!

144 posted on 05/03/2006 9:04:51 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
What percentage of illegal aliens should be incarcerated?

Since they seem to like to work, I say we incarcerate all that we find and then have them work, for free, 12 hours a day at those jobs. About a 5 year sentence ought to do. And when that's done, then we deport them.
145 posted on 05/03/2006 9:04:56 PM PDT by JamesP81
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To: Sir Gawain
Sometimes (shock), the majority of Americans are actually right.

I think it was a former soviet ambassador that once commented that the American people, when it came to issues of national survival, invariably made the right decisions.
146 posted on 05/03/2006 9:06:05 PM PDT by JamesP81
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To: MOgirl
What is your purpose in making such statements?

To get an answer to the question. Why do you seek to not answer?

OK, they all, each and every one refuse to return, believing that jail is better than their homeland.

Would you voluntarily choose to have your family starve, or would you risk jail to feed them if that was the only option on the table?

Are you actually trying to argue that we should just roll over?

No. Are you intent on proving that women are unable to understand English, and thus should be stripped of the franchise?

147 posted on 05/03/2006 9:06:17 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: nckerr

This is ONE ZOGBY poll that the MSM may IGNORE completely!!


148 posted on 05/03/2006 9:07:19 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

yeah right - try for example, owning a business where you dump some kind of prohibited waste on your property - something as simple as motor oil for example. and watch what the EPA can do to your business, without any kind of trial or conviction.


149 posted on 05/03/2006 9:07:46 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: JamesP81
Fine. Even at a very low arrest rate, you've just increased the prison population by 100%. The worst case would be complete success--you now have to house 12,000,000 people for five years.

Where do you put 'em, and how do you guard 'em?

150 posted on 05/03/2006 9:09:21 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Reffer to my post 61 on how to deal with this issue.


151 posted on 05/03/2006 9:09:23 PM PDT by revelatorman (Democrats are anti-american)
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To: nckerr

Why did they have to take a poll on this.

Any citizens could have told them that no amnesty is wanted by 91% of all Americans .


No more open borders by 83% of all voters.


152 posted on 05/03/2006 9:09:43 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: sinkspur

Not many Vietnamese swimming across the Rio Grande!


153 posted on 05/03/2006 9:10:35 PM PDT by lonedawg (why does that rag on your head say holiday inn?)
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To: sinkspur; BeHoldAPaleHorse

OK, I got an idea: instead of offering problems, how about you offer a solution.


154 posted on 05/03/2006 9:10:59 PM PDT by JamesP81
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To: MOgirl
I don't think MOgirl picked up on your original sarcasm.
155 posted on 05/03/2006 9:11:17 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Here's a question for you. Do you remember the old Eddie Murphy comedy special where he tells a story of a guy who goes to Africa to get a bride? He brings this bride back to the US and after a few months, she figures out what the American wives get and she tells her hubbie, "I want half".

Moral of the story, if we legalize the folks who are here and set up a guest worker program, they will demand prevailing wages and benefits, so we gain nothing but a bigger population and a bigger drain on social services.

Here's my solution (well, not really mine but piece meal from other places, but anyways). Step 1 - shut down the southern border for real with troops and walls. Step 2 - give the illegals who are here 4 months to identify themselves. Those who don't identify themselves go to prison for 5 years before getting deported when we catch up with them. Step 2 - figure out how many illegals are upstanding, send the rest back, send the really bad ones to jail. Step 3 - Give the employers 3 months from the end of the 4 to come clean. Step 4 - now, with the employers having to pay fair wages, see exactly how many low level employees we need. My guess is not that many since we have a 4.7% unemployment rate, not a ZERO% rate. Step 5 - create a guest worker program to accomodate that need.

157 posted on 05/03/2006 9:12:34 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

I have never said this to any freeper since I have been here.

you are a rude idiot.


158 posted on 05/03/2006 9:13:50 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Hello,

Wow, you are something else. And I am so proud of myself that my argument forced you to comment on the fact that I am a female. HAH! You are pitiful. Nice slam (not). I will ask again (3rd time for those that are keeping count), as Free Republic looks on (and sizes you up, BTW): What is your proposal? What is your solution? Who are you cheering for in this situation? Glad to be here, MOgirl
159 posted on 05/03/2006 9:15:59 PM PDT by MOgirl (Democrats: The Culture of Treason (and you know what I'm talkin about!))
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