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New Poll: Americans Prefer House Approach on Immigration
U.S. Newswire ^ | 5-3-2006 | Steven Camarota

Posted on 05/03/2006 7:45:44 PM PDT by nckerr

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To: Sir Gawain

Once upon a time, FReepers used to deride Clinton for governing solely by focus group and poll results.


21 posted on 05/03/2006 8:10:33 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: cabojoe
I don't have my crime statistics handbook with me right now, but I would assume you could google it.

How many people do you propose to jail under this proposal? Just give me a number.

22 posted on 05/03/2006 8:11:44 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Sometimes (shock), the majority of Americans are actually right.


23 posted on 05/03/2006 8:12:01 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Look what ICE did to the immigrant communities with only a handful of employer/employee arrests. It put the fear of deportation into them. Do it long enough and they will leave.


24 posted on 05/03/2006 8:12:01 PM PDT by steel_resolve (Illegal aliens don’t take jobs Americans won’t; they take wages Americans won’t)
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To: nckerr
Americans prefer the House of Representatives' enforcement-only bill by 2-1 over Senate proposals to legalize illegal immigrants and greatly increase legal immigration.

Looks like those marches didn't do all that much good.

25 posted on 05/03/2006 8:12:08 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Fining employers sounds easy in principle, but is extremely difficult in practice.

No it isn't.

26 posted on 05/03/2006 8:12:27 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Hello,

How about this idea? We govern by enforcing the existing law. It is not hard if you put your mind to it.

Glad to be here, MOgirl
27 posted on 05/03/2006 8:13:07 PM PDT by MOgirl (Democrats: The Culture of Treason (and you know what I'm talkin about!))
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To: sangoo
Here I'd been hoping he was better at holding his ground than Frist... then I remembered how he promised if Sensenbrener took immigration out of a bill they were voting on a year ago the first thing they would do when they reconvened after Christmas Break would be Immigration... that was Christmas 2004!
28 posted on 05/03/2006 8:13:21 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: steel_resolve
Look what ICE did to the immigrant communities with only a handful of employer/employee arrests. It put the fear of deportation into them. Do it long enough and they will leave.

At what percentage of illegals incarcerated will the remainder volunteer for permanent poverty and unemployment? Give me a number.

29 posted on 05/03/2006 8:13:30 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Like I said...if they have an encounter with law enforcement, and if they are made felons by law, incarcerate however many are found. That's what happens to you and I.
30 posted on 05/03/2006 8:13:39 PM PDT by cabojoe
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To: Mike Darancette
Actually, they probably did a lot of good- for us. It's like we've always said- the worst thing that can happen to liberalism is people finding out what it actually stands for.
31 posted on 05/03/2006 8:14:10 PM PDT by Sofa King (A wise man uses compromise as an alternative to defeat. A fool uses it as an alternative to victory.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
One more time: how many illegal aliens do you propose to incarcerate once they call your bluff?

0% Don't incarcerate them, deport them (and any ILLEGALS here with them) on the spot!

How many do you think will be incarcerated under this proposal?

>10% Unfortunately.

32 posted on 05/03/2006 8:14:13 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
You don't have to incarcerate anyone, just hold employers to the letter of the law and start prosecuting them...

However, Arpaio isn't concerned, he plans to utilize tent city for the illegals his posse' is rounding up.

33 posted on 05/03/2006 8:14:52 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: MOgirl
How about this idea? We govern by enforcing the existing law. It is not hard if you put your mind to it.

It's not hard if you don't have to actually do the work.

34 posted on 05/03/2006 8:15:13 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: MOgirl
How about this idea? We govern by enforcing the existing law.

Now that's just absurd. Enforcing the law might set a bad example and then we'll be expected to always enforce the law. It's a slippery slope.

35 posted on 05/03/2006 8:15:30 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

We got to do something?So how many people we let come across our border?We don't even know who these people are?They could be criminals fleeing mexico for one thing?Every
other country in the world controls their borders except the politically incorrect United States.When will America wake up?


36 posted on 05/03/2006 8:16:11 PM PDT by revelatorman (borders)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

I agree. Enforcing the law is really hard. We should just let it go.


37 posted on 05/03/2006 8:16:41 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Arizona Carolyn
You don't have to incarcerate anyone, just hold employers to the letter of the law and start prosecuting them...

The letter of the law requires the prosecution to prove, BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT, that the employer knew for a fact that he was hiring an illegal alien. Let's see you do it.

38 posted on 05/03/2006 8:16:47 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: DTogo
0% Don't incarcerate them, deport them (and any ILLEGALS here with them) on the spot!

OK, so you favor the existing program of catch however many you can (i.e., very few) and release.

39 posted on 05/03/2006 8:17:47 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
However, Arpaio isn't concerned, he plans to utilize tent city for the illegals his posse' is rounding up.

I read about that today. Should be fun to watch.

40 posted on 05/03/2006 8:18:16 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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