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My response to Sentor Larry Craig's letter to me on Immigration
Written (typed) letter from Larry Craig | May 3, 2006 | Jeff Head

Posted on 05/03/2006 9:50:29 PM PDT by Jeff Head

I wrote Senator Larry Craig, one of my senators from Idaho, a direct letter in March regarding the immigration issue. It is posted on the internet HERE

I received a letter in the mail yesterday from Senator Craig (I had received an email from Senator Crapo earlier), wherein Senator Craig detailed a response to my issues. In that response he expressed a healthy desire for a stronger border security but expressed doubt that the border could be sealed, and that massive deportations could be accomplished because they would also cripple major U.S. industries. Therefore he felt a guest worker program had to be a part of the solution.

This is my respectful response to him.


May 3, 2006

Senator Craig,

I am in reciept of your letter to me dated, April 20, 2006, regarding the immigration issue, in response to my correspondence to you in March. There is much in your letter that we agree on, and I thank you for the correspondence from that respect.

However, there are a couple of areas where I must take issue with you and do my best to, as your constituent, and one who has supported your campaigns in the past, to share with you my heartfelt and direct feelings.

You indicate in the letter that any nation that fails to manage its borders canoot be secure at home. This is absolutely true and our borders have been mismanaged and not strongly enforced for several decades. Despite catching more people recently, the floodgates are still open and they simply must be closed. A double fence barrier should be built along the entire length and our ostuhern border and then patrolled by reserve and National Guard units from California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas.

We could build or re-open training bases near the border to augment this.

The fact is, we are not managing our border and any attempt to devise a plan to manage the border issue by in any way rewarding those people who violated our laws and soveriegnty to get here simply cannot be put forward. I am extremely serious about this...it has become, for me, an issue like abortion where my vote hinges entirely on a correct approach and response to the issue. Any guest worker program that in essence says, "well, if you are already here and have been for a good while, we are going to help you along to citizenship so you are not a bad statistic for us anymore," is wholly unacceptable and will be met with my vote against a candidate who puts forward or supports any such plan, just as I would vote against any candidate who in any way supports abortion.

You indicate in your letter that, "even if blanket deportations and sealing the border were possible, they would collpase entire U.S. industries."

Senator, this arguement does not fly with me. First of all, those two things are possible and wholly warranted in the circumstances. We have illegal aliens marching in our streets demanding the vote and in many cases, demanding that soveriegn areas of our country be broken away from this nation. The Brown Berets of Aztlan, a militant group calling for just that, led the march in San Diego on May 1st. They are brazen and they are crass, and they are in our faces. Deportation is called for in such instances. Sealing the border is also not only possible, in my estimation, given your own statements in the letter to me, in a post 911 era, it is required.

As to industries shutting down, if we have reached a point where entire industries are dependent on illegal activities, it is high time we pay the price to shut them down. Pornography is a multi-billion dollar industry...it should be shut down. Industries hiring illegal aliens are breaking our laws and need to be adjusted, regardless of the pain, so they become legal. The way to do that is not to reward them for the illegality by changing the laws, which are good laws. It is to begin enforcing them.

I may sound harsh and disrespectful, I assure you I am not. I am just passionate about this issue as I believe tens of millions of Americans, in fact a majority of Americans, are as well.

I have thought about this and talked about it in great detail. Here are some recommendations:

1) Begin cracking down hard on companies that hire illegal aliens. Fine them, and where warranted, criminally prosecute them and incarcerate those who knowingly violate the laws. This will, as much as anything else, help alleviate the massive deportation issue because it will dry up the draw.

2) Outside of emergency services for indigent type situations, end all social services for illegal aliens, including the anchor baby interpretation of becoming a US citizen. These provisions along with those identified in item number one, would help dry up the draw and most illegals would then deport themselves.

3) Offer all illegals here a ninety day grace period to turn themselves over to ICE for deportaiton, which if they do, and pass a criminal background examination, will allow them to be favorably considered for future legal immigration after they return home and apply for the same through the legally proscribed method. It will also put them in favorable contention for the eventual guest worker program that will be available after these enforcement provisions have been in place for at least one year.

4) After the ninety days, and when items one and two are also in place, begin an aggressive program to identify and round up and deport remaining illegals. If they are caught after the ninety day grace period, make sure they know that they will never be considered for legal immigration or guest worker status in the United States.

5) In conjunction with these steps, also plan for and implement the following:

a) Building the double fence barrier along the border with physical and electronic checking, and cleared land on either side of the fence and between the two, topped woith razor wire.
b) Reopen existing or build new training bases along the border for the California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas Reserve and National Guard and have them conduct training operations in concert with regular army units also stationed on the border to monitor and interdict any illegal entry into this nation.
c) Perfomr the above in concert with ICE efforts.
d) Develop a volunteer auxillary of civilians who assist with the monitoring function. Similar to the Coast Guard auxillary. Thosuands would sign up to assist.

6) Once the fence is complete and the other provisions are in operations for at least a year, introduce a temporary guest worker program for any needed jobs. Make sure the emphasis is on hiring Americans first wherever possible and incent teenagers to take these jobs. For what cannot be filled, then introduce the guest worker program that includes the following provisions:

a) Applicants must pass a criminal background check.
b) Terms will be for three years, renewable at the employers discretion up to a year.
c) Guest workers cannot bring their families with them.
d) Any conviction for a crime other than a minor misdemeanor invalidates the permit and the worker is returned home after serving the sentence.
e) Guest workers are not automatically on the road to citizenship. They still must apply through the normal legal method for citizenship.

7) Illegal aliens who are caught entering, or residing in the country will be, after this program is implemented, deported after a five year incarceration where they are put to work on public projects. Each additional apprehension adds an additional five years to the next sentence, up to a maximum of 20 years.

Senator, such a program could be implemented if our politicians had the will. The majority of American people already have the will. The House of Representatives is very close to these types of provisions already. I urge you to reassess your position on some of these issues. We have reached a point with this crisis, and in the current circumstances of global terror, where we simply must have the will to accomplish these types of direct and straight forward measures.

Please visit the following links and read the details of Representative Kings proposal (Iowa Fifth District) and the stories of the vistims of what ammounts to this invasion by illegal entrants to our country.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1623720/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1625726/posts

The United States always has and always will welcome those people of the world who want to come here in the legally proscribed method and accept and bear allegiance to our constitution and the fundamental moral values that make it work. That is why we are free, that is why we are prosperous, and that is why we have what we have here. By breakling the law in the first place to come here, the very essence of that compact is broken and connot be fixed until the illegal alien returns to their home and seeks to come here in the legally proscribed method. In the mean time, thousands of crinimals and potential terrorists stream across into our nation, masked by the herd of illegals, who themselves are working a fundamental and dangerous change on our culture and society by their numbers and their willful disavowal of our laws.

Thank you for your attention to what I know has been a long letter.

Sincerely,

Jeff Head
Emmett, ID



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For those interested.

IMHO, this is exactly the level of involvement (minimally) that we each need to have with our reps. Write them, when they respond, do not be afraid to ask them to toe the line.

1 posted on 05/03/2006 9:50:31 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: joanie-f; Dukie; Squantos; JohnHuang2; RobFromGa; k.trujillo; Travis McGee; jim macomber; ...

FYI.


2 posted on 05/03/2006 9:51:50 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

I'll be writing much of the same to Larry, once he responds to me. He may need to be replaced.


3 posted on 05/03/2006 9:55:24 PM PDT by sangoo
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To: Jeff Head

Thanks, you have expressed the views of a very large group of Americans. Again, thanks.


4 posted on 05/03/2006 9:59:02 PM PDT by zip (((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))))
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To: sangoo
Craig's letter had lot of good in it...but some very clear political statements on these other issues I had to take issue with. Crapo's letter was much more in line with my own beliefs. Among other things, he wrote,

" I am disappointed that the Senate was not able to pass meaningful immigration reform, but remain committed to passing immigration legislation that does not reward illegal immigration through amnesty, includes strong border security and enforcement, and ensures that American citizens have the first right to available jobs.

I am aware of the detrimental impact that illegal immigration has on the economy and local communities. My record on immigration issues throughout my tenure in Congress has been consistent. I support aggressive border enforcement and have supported initiatives in the past to increase the number of border patrol agents operating on our borders and in the Pacific Northwest. I have also voted to enhance our abilities to stop illegal crossing of our borders. I oppose amnesty programs and am committed to ensuring that a person should not gain an advantage or benefit toward citizenship or legal permanent resident status as a result of illegal entry into the U.S."

5 posted on 05/03/2006 9:59:48 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head
Great Letter Jeff.

CC's need to be sent to all 100 senators.

6 posted on 05/03/2006 10:01:11 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: Jeff Head
IMHO, this is exactly the level of involvement (minimally) that we each need to have with our reps. Write them, when they respond, do not be afraid to ask them to toe the line.

Absolutely.
7 posted on 05/03/2006 10:02:02 PM PDT by JamesP81
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To: Jeff Head
As to industries shutting down, if we have reached a point where entire industries are dependent on illegal activities, it is high time we pay the price to shut them down.

This is not a solution; it's the remark of a crank. The roofing industry in the Southwest is almost entirely illegals, as is the landscaping business. Shutting these down will produce a good number of disgruntled southwestern business owners who can certainly get their home builder friends and other general contractors to pressure their legislators to turn aside this recommendation. Your reference to pornography in your next sentence is irrelevant, as pornography, unfortunately, is a legal industry according to the courts.

Your arguments for deportation, while thoughtful, are not going to fly with the Senate or with the President. Deportation is not an option. I don't think even Tancredo is talking deportation at this point.

The anchor baby provision, of course, will have to be dealt with via a constitutional amendment, since the Supreme Court has declared them to be citizens. I don't think this has a chance in hell of even making it out of the Congress.

8 posted on 05/03/2006 10:04:42 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: AFreeBird

Thanks, feel free to cut ands paste whatever you want and send it on.


9 posted on 05/03/2006 10:05:07 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head
I have written and talked to the offices of my two but as they are Boxer and Feinstein, I'm just venting. I won't insult the forum by posting their drivel.
10 posted on 05/03/2006 10:07:02 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Jeff Head

I too have been satisfied with Senator Crapo's responses to me on the immigration issue. Larry Craig's office has been somewhat hostile when defending his position on enforcement and fence building.


11 posted on 05/03/2006 10:07:16 PM PDT by sangoo
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To: sinkspur
Call it whatever you want Sink...illegal is illegal and we as a people either stand by our laws and their enforcement or we sink into the abyss. I for one am not willing to go the latter route so I will write and share my heartfelt convictions with my representatives. You are free to do the same with your own.

As I implied, better to bite the bullet now and fix it, than to continue on a path so clearly precipitous. But that's my opinion and you are free to your own.

12 posted on 05/03/2006 10:08:10 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: ncountylee

Good on you for writing and venting in any case. I believe this issue is going to cut across lines and those, of either party, who do not stand up to this are going to be in trouble.


13 posted on 05/03/2006 10:10:02 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

BUMP!


14 posted on 05/03/2006 10:10:07 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: sangoo

Same here.


15 posted on 05/03/2006 10:14:50 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head
I will, but as for my senators... Dick (UN L.O.S.T. treaty front man) Lugar(RINO), and Evan Bayh(D)... useless I'm afraid.

But reinforcement for my Rep Dan Burton(R), yea, that will work.

16 posted on 05/03/2006 10:22:08 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: Jeff Head
I'm writing Craig myself, Jeff. I don't get the sense that it's percolated all the way to D.C. that this is an issue that has been allowed to be patched with platitudes for too long and that those caught on the wrong side of the fence on this one will have a hard time climbing back.

I can sort of see where the pols are coming from. They only know what they read in the papers and those are remarkably uniniformed on this topic. Indeed, they've done a great deal deliberately to convince their readers that the people in the street constituted a majority. That's a disservice even to the Democrats, because they're going to get killed on this issue if they follow the lead of the NY Times in the matter. So will the Republicans.

The pols are frightened to death of being portrayed as coming down on a minority despite the fact that this particular minority is an illegal one. When a Rasmussen poll indicated that more than half of the Hispanic population in this country is in favor of enforcing the law here you really see the disconnect between the East-coast papers and the reality on the ground.

17 posted on 05/03/2006 10:24:03 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

Exactly. Crapo is starting to get it...Craig is entrenched and may take a lot more convincing. The more he hears form us, and in straight terms, the better.


18 posted on 05/03/2006 10:28:44 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: AFreeBird

The Hoiuse has figured this out to date...I hope we can keep it together there. I am also asking our reps to hold the line with the Sensenbrenner Bill.


19 posted on 05/03/2006 10:29:32 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: sinkspur

How does the importation of illegal labour differ from the importation of illegal drugs?


20 posted on 05/03/2006 10:30:54 PM PDT by patton (Once you steal a firetruck, there's really not much else you can do except go for a joyride.)
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To: sinkspur

I can recall a day when the roofing, framing and other similiar jobs were done by Whites, Blacks and Mexican-Americans in Houston and surrounding areas. This was about 15 - 20 years ago.
The illegals then arrived en masse and undercut the existing wage structure and soon had all the jobs.
I doubt that the illegals wages are as much as the Americans were 20 years ago. (But we can have cheaper houses).
The illegals are not doing jobs Americans won't do. They are however doing doing jobs Americans can't do at the illegals wage scale.
The Employers importing these people in so that they can exploit them for cheap labor under almost slave - like conditions have the same short sighted mentality of the Slave Importers of the 18th and 19th Centuries.


21 posted on 05/03/2006 10:33:24 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: Jeff Head

I once thought Larry Craig was a hardcore Conservative. He looks like the NWO on this immigration disaster though.


22 posted on 05/03/2006 10:36:46 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: BnBlFlag
The Employers importing these people in so that they can exploit them for cheap labor under almost slave - like conditions have the same short sighted mentality of the Slave Importers of the 18th and 19th Centuries.

With all due respect, I have to laugh when I read stuff like this.

Are you aware that most of these roofers are making $10-12 per hour? That they get regular breaks? That many of them have their own cars?

That they can move from company to company?

There are no "slave" conditions with most of these illegal laborers. They have too many choices for jobs, and make too much money.

23 posted on 05/03/2006 10:42:03 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: sangoo

Yah, you do that. Replace Larry Craig.

: rolls eyes :

I'm sure he's shaking in his boots. He only got 65% of the vote last time.


24 posted on 05/03/2006 10:42:04 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: Jeff Head
Your senator is a lazy, defeatist lacky. The way to keep illegal immigrants out of America is truly easy. Not a single law needs to be added or changed, and not a single dollar needs to be spent. Here is the most effective, most efficient, and fastest way to rid ourselves of the problem and keep them from entering our country in the future. It will take a little time, but will work very effectively:

(1). Stop paying them the welfare checks, immediately.

(2). DEFINE the "anchor baby" clause in our Constitution, it was not created to make the children of illegal aliens instant citizens and this needs to be clarified.

(3). Using current laws and resources, begin finding, arresting and deporting illegals immediately. No massive numbers are needed, we just need to begin the task and send the message.

(4). Stop all programs that reward illegals, especially in-state college tuition, driver's licenses, food stamps, e-v-e-r-y government benefit currently enriching illegal aliens must stop immediately.

(5). Heavily fine each and every business that hires these illegals, publish those business's names in local newspapers or on the internet, (or nationally if it pertains), so people can stop dealing with them. Quadruple the fines each time they are caught again. Make it financially untenable for them to ever take the risk of hiring illegals.

(6). Pay local kids to do your lawn work and other jobs instead of hiring illegals. Every American must do their part with this.

(7). Make English the mandatory language of America. No more 'second language' b.s. on corporate customer service phone menus. STOP the pandering.

(8). Release every single illegal alien convicted of crimes and currently incarcerated in our prisons, and deport them to their countries of origin.

(9). Get Dan Quayle to show you how to grow your own tomatoes.

While the above is being implemented, begin building a real border to our south, and with the enormous money we will be saving as a result of stopping welfare benefits to invaders, use some of that money to fund more border guards and electronic surveilance.

If we make the above changes there will no longer be any reason for foreignors to risk life and limb sneaking into our country to rape our land and reap a windfall of welfare benefits. Not a shot has to be fired, not a single dollar spent, not a drop of sweat wasted. Just simple, common sense measures and we can prevent illegals from wanting to come here, and discourage the present ones to the point that they will return home voluntarily because it is no longer financially beneficial to be here, and the danger of deportation will be hanging over their heads like the Sword of Damacles.

25 posted on 05/03/2006 10:55:43 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: Jeff Head
I got a reply back from Senator Craig as well. Sounds like the same letter...

I don't think he gets it yet. He mentioned the guest worker part as in his response to me as well. I had also suggested that any guest workers should be male only with no wives or kids, since in no way can a family be supported with these low wage jobs.

I cautioned him though, that the employers who were hiring these folks would not be particularly interested in workers that they had to pay a decent wage and withhold taxes and SS on. What makes them attractive to employers is the fact that they are illegal.
26 posted on 05/03/2006 10:58:19 PM PDT by babygene
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To: sinkspur
That's where the ripoff is. In some states, the Workman's comp insurance is as much as 120% of payroll. If these folks were legal guest workers, this would have to be paid by the employer. As it is, if they get hurt the taxpayer picks it up.
27 posted on 05/03/2006 11:11:18 PM PDT by babygene
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To: Jeff Head

Great patience and ideas Jeff. 'specially like the public works aspect!


28 posted on 05/03/2006 11:19:33 PM PDT by griffin (Love Jesus, No Fear!)
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To: Jeff Head

Your letters were excellent. Thank you for taking the time and making the effort to send them. Hope we get results.


29 posted on 05/03/2006 11:55:39 PM PDT by unfortunately a bluestater
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To: sinkspur

Who did landscaping and roofing in the Southwest 30 years ago?
It might take a little time to bring legal citizens back into these types of industries...but it would be well worth the cost.
And regarding deporation. If all of the 'free services' are taken away from the illegals...they'll deport themselves!
And maybe someday the 14th amendent will be clarified so that the so-called anchor babies will be 'anchored' to their parents citizenship.


30 posted on 05/04/2006 12:15:18 AM PDT by walldog
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To: Jeff Head

Great letter. Consider it 'stolen' and sent to my own senators. Thanks.


31 posted on 05/04/2006 1:39:06 AM PDT by Badray
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To: zbigreddogz

Yah, you do that. Replace Larry Craig.

: rolls eyes :

I'm sure he's shaking in his boots. He only got 65% of the vote last time.

65% is pretty bad when he didn't really have an opponent and the state is pretty much wall-to-wall "Republicans".

I went to his office and griped about his support of a agricultural guestworker/amnesty program, the "American dream" act (illegal aliens attending colleges at resident rates), and driver's licenses for illegal aliens (I didn't find a second source for this one, but since I had for the other two, I complained about it anyway particularly since I had just had my civil rights stomped on and the Federal Government did nothing).

32 posted on 05/04/2006 2:29:11 AM PDT by Victoria_R (One of the 35% who didn't vote for Craig...)
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To: Jeff Head

Yesterday, I sent copies of a similar open letter to my Senators (Sarbanes and Mikulski), as well as Frist, Specter, Kennedy, McCain, Cornyn, and Kyl (involved in various versions of border control legislation). I hope that covers the waterfront.

As far as the military goes, if they do anything beyond assisting the border patrol and providing defense against armed drug runners and smugglers, they could get into trouble with Posse Comitatus.

As far as guest workers go, I don't agree with that at all. If, as Senator Frist says, our country needs 400,000 immigrants per year to keep the economy going, then hand out 400,000 green cards per year only to people who want to become Americans, and who pass a background check. This in itself can only occur after Homeland Security fixes its scandalous background check system.


33 posted on 05/04/2006 2:51:19 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: sinkspur
Deportation is not an option.

Neither is Reconquista. These people should not be here. Period.

34 posted on 05/04/2006 2:53:00 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: patton
How does the importation of illegal labour differ from the importation of illegal drugs?

Illegal drugs do not bring with them the idea of retaking the American southwest on behalf of Mexico or "Aztlan."

35 posted on 05/04/2006 2:57:29 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: sinkspur
There are no "slave" conditions with most of these illegal laborers. They have too many choices for jobs, and make too much money.

Gee, sink, what would YOU pay them, minimum wage?

36 posted on 05/04/2006 2:59:00 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: Jeff Head
A great letter. I would add: "I have concludedd that you and a vast majority of the Congress (both Houses) are is violation of your oath of office in which you swore: TO FAITHFULLY DEFEND THE CONTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

You and the vast majority of the Congress, as well as the elected members of the Administration (and appointed Attorney General) should be indicted and charged with Nonfeasance. The Court would decide if your actions were Malfeasance or Misfeasance.

In my opinion, you are quilty of Malfeasance and should be flushed from office on Election Day, much as I remove waste in my home every day when I flush the toilet!
37 posted on 05/04/2006 3:09:04 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: Jeff Head

Jeff-I always appreciate your lucid posts and clear thoughts. I have thought long and hard as well-I agree with you on all points. There is one additional isue, I feel is a major draw for the alien..how we tax. I have long thought coupling the FairTax to this issue would help resolve the porblem, because it either forces the alien to participate in the tax system, by paying the Federal sales tax, or he HAS TO REGISTER to obtain the income exemption refund.


38 posted on 05/04/2006 3:24:27 AM PDT by mo
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To: Jeff Head

Good work, Jeff.

That's sort of the same initial reply I got from mine. The problem is TOO big to handle, so "we" give in and give up.

I tersely replied to my Senators and asked if employers need guest workers so much, why not require them swear out an affidavit of support (similar to Form I-134) for each worker and require those applicants be processed by the DHS and US Labor departments.

Sponsors of legal immigrants must file a notarized Form I-134, so it's only fair that employers be required similarly.

Although a court had previously ruled those signed affidavits may not be enforcable, that ruling could be contested by the dismissal of any other sworn affidavit coming before a court or by a defendant contesting a sworn affidavit produced as evidence against himself.

The point is, the financial responsibility of guest workers ought clearly fall upon those whose invitation brings them here while prohibiting those from becoming public charges and that responsibility upon both ought be fully enforced.


39 posted on 05/04/2006 3:29:34 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: sinkspur; Jeff Head

As they say, "A journey begins with the first step".


40 posted on 05/04/2006 3:35:34 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: Jeff Head

This letter needs legs. Why not send a copy to Rush?


41 posted on 05/04/2006 3:47:40 AM PDT by jos65
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To: azhenfud

What other illegal activities are Senators willing to accept so U.S. industies wont collapse?


42 posted on 05/04/2006 3:50:39 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I am very curious about your statement on the military getting into trouble with the Posse Comitatus. I seem to remember something about Central High School in Little Rock AR. and army tanks being used at Waco, TX a few years ago. Am I having a Senior Moment? Did I dream those up? Did the military get in trouble? I don't remember that either.
43 posted on 05/04/2006 4:21:51 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: Jeff Head
Exemplary! Ahem, you won't mind if some of us less gifted wordsmiths exercise a smidgen of plagiarism???

Well done.

FGS

44 posted on 05/04/2006 5:27:19 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: BnBlFlag

That bill he co-sponsored (I believe) regarding educating the children of illegal aliens really was a betrayal of principle in my mind. I believe he feels he is trying to help the agriculktural community in Idaho wiuth such measures...but I also believe he is wrong, that in the long term it will do much more to harm them.


45 posted on 05/04/2006 6:20:30 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: sinkspur
The anchor baby provision, of course, will have to be dealt with via a constitutional amendment, since the Supreme Court has declared them to be citizens.

Would you please give me more details about the Court decision on this matter? When did this happen?

46 posted on 05/04/2006 6:21:06 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: TheCrusader
I would not call him lazy or a lackey in the least. On most issues he is fairly conserevative and thus earns 60+% of the vote usually in a very conservative state.

But lately, and particularly with Free Trade and immigration, he has stepped away from those principles and a number of us are trying to call him on it. For me, my vote will hinge on this issue and his response to it.

47 posted on 05/04/2006 6:22:21 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: babygene

He needs to be called on these issues. I was particularly upset over the bill for educating children of illegal aliens.


48 posted on 05/04/2006 6:23:34 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: griffin

Thanks my friend...God's best to you.


49 posted on 05/04/2006 6:23:56 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: unfortunately a bluestater

Thank you...I share the same hope. The more of us who do contact them and inform them directly of how we feel, the more likely we will see those results.


50 posted on 05/04/2006 6:24:45 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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