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Interesting view from Israeli paper.
1 posted on 05/04/2006 7:03:58 AM PDT by blueminnesota
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University men in the Western world view going to college as an arena for the fulfillment of their unbridled lust,

What an idiot - what - more men bashing

and it is these intellectual crossroads wherein one finds, ironically, the greatest contempt for women.

Today there are more women on campus then men so is this the women hate women story.

Does this person like anyone or just bash on everyone.


2 posted on 05/04/2006 7:07:06 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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I think you will want to read this.


3 posted on 05/04/2006 7:10:39 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (In Memory of my Friends who can no longer post with me!)
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University men in the Western world view going to college as an arena for the fulfillment of their unbridled lust...

Damn, and I picked Engineering School.

4 posted on 05/04/2006 7:13:14 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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University men in the Western world view going to college as an arena for the fulfillment of their unbridled lust, and it is these intellectual crossroads wherein one finds, ironically, the greatest contempt for women.

Horse manure. Tell that to Larry Summers.

5 posted on 05/04/2006 7:13:25 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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ONCE, WHEN I lectured at Yale, a female student perfectly identified for me how it is a man's world and how it all begins at university: "When it comes to love and relationships the men here sit and pick us out, like a man sifting through a jar of jellybeans for the colors and tastes that he likes, leaving behind all the ones that don't appeal to his taste buds at the moment."

LOL, I can refute this with 3 words "Anna Nicole Smith"...
6 posted on 05/04/2006 7:13:43 AM PDT by last american
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What I find particularily hilarious about stories like this is that they simply do not look at the reality of the situation. How many women "marry down" ??? How many times do you hear of a female orthopedic surgeon marrying a ditch digger? IT DOES NOT HAPPEN. But men "marry down" all the time (and no it's not for control as femi-nazi's would tell you). Articles like this are the epitome of whining.


9 posted on 05/04/2006 7:17:53 AM PDT by last american
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how about the price of disrespecting men.

Just watch a commercial for a "cute" car.

(note to madison avenue. male bashing commercials NEVER get my dollars.)


10 posted on 05/04/2006 7:20:27 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: blueminnesota

You'd think he would find out a few more basic facts before sitting down at his computer to write.


11 posted on 05/04/2006 7:20:47 AM PDT by ladyjane
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Theres some truth to what he says, and I think you can lay most of it on the feminists and the culture they have inspired and helped bring about

I mean, women and men are the same , notwithstanding the obvious physical differences, right? Women shouldnt be put on a pedestal, they can do everthing a man can do, right? Marriage is an anachronism, child raising is slavery, and so on.

So , to get attention from men, they have to act slutty. Otherwise, they'll be ignored. And they dont want to be ignored, do they? Such a connundrum.

18 posted on 05/04/2006 7:39:09 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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This is a sick article

The greatest cultural story since the 1960s is the decline and fall of the Western male, and how women have accommodated that fall by allowing themselves to be treated like garbage by men. It's now 60 years after feminism, and there has never been a better time to be a man.

Feminism is to blame, don't tell me I'm on the decline.

But in becoming boastful beasts of female prey and losing their sense of awe for women, men have guaranteed their own boredom. If you're a man, and a woman can no longer excite you, what will?...Watching race cars go in a circle for 500 miles?

So now NASCAR is for those who have so abused women that they can't receive sexual pleasure from them?

Do men realize just how pathetic they have become as they endlessly pursue cheap substitutes for a lost sense of erotic excitement?

Who gets cheap erotic excitement from NASCAR?

Both of these factors were in operation that terrible night, on March 13, at Duke. The alleged rape victim had been paid $400 by the Neanderthals who surrounded her to excite them. And she arrived as the perfect obedient male fantasy, wearing, according to The New York Times, a "negligee and shiny white strappy high heels." But when even that failed to ignite an erotic charge, one of the highly educated youths allegedly "held up a broomstick and threatened to sexually assault her with it."

A neighbor said the players were demanding their money back. She allegedly refused to participate in degrading acts that might finally give these overexposed and desensitized men some excitement. And when she didn't do that, well, violence was allegedly just around the corner, as the men ganged up on her as a pack. After all, if the "bitch" doesn't serve the purpose of turning us guys on, what on earth else could she possibly be good for?


These paragraphs says it all, this author is looking at America from the outside in. And oh yea, for whatever reason he really hates NASCAR

Strange papers in that county Israel
19 posted on 05/04/2006 7:40:52 AM PDT by Vision ("There are no limits to growth because there are no limits of human intelligence" Ronald Reagan)
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ONCE, WHEN I lectured at Yale, a female student perfectly identified for me how it is a man's world and how it all begins at university. . .

Hee. It started at birth. With boys and later, men, have the physical abilities to deal directly with the material realm. In a natural situation, their sovereignty derives from physical strength, logical and technical mind coupled with speed and dexterity to make a whole that rules.

Only in an environment under law and regulation (enforced by men with all the attributes above, incidentally), high population and high technology (developed and implemented by men) have women been been given (by men) a portion of sovereignty.

But, then, there is the heart and gonads. . .

20 posted on 05/04/2006 7:41:25 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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Boteach....where have I seen that name before?


28 posted on 05/04/2006 8:13:58 AM PDT by wardaddy (Yo quiero un conservativo verdad.)
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Yeah, it's all men's fault, they're the sex starved maniacs, women are so chaste and pure. They would never get involved with something like Girls Gone Wild unless men forced them to.


33 posted on 05/04/2006 8:18:25 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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I knew everyone would have an opinion on this! I think most freepers would agree with the Rabbi's take on this societal problem, just not on the cause and solution.

But I always find foreign views of USA interesting. Jerusalem Post is Israel's conservative paper, you know. As opposed to Haaretz.

36 posted on 05/04/2006 8:25:56 AM PDT by blueminnesota
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I don't know about this story...his whole thesis is based on "THE FACT" that this girl was raped. I don't think this girl was raped. Strippers at a college party? YAWN...not a new phenomenon.


41 posted on 05/04/2006 8:34:38 AM PDT by Hildy (Producing a penny now costs the government more than 1.4 cents)
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"ONCE, WHEN I lectured at Yale, a female student perfectly identified for me how it is a man's world and how it all begins at university: 'When it comes to love and relationships the men here sit and pick us out, like a man sifting through a jar of jellybeans for the colors and tastes that he likes, leaving behind all the ones that don't appeal to his taste buds at the moment.'"

But don't women do the same thing? Size up the men?

I don't like the way he tries to characterize the women as victims. If men don't respect the women that he is referring to, maybe the women behave in a way that doesn't earn respect. It's a free country and women are free to behave as they choose. If they want to behave as "victims" or "playthings" then that's up to them.


46 posted on 05/04/2006 8:40:25 AM PDT by RAldrich
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"It is time for the Western world to accept the sad truth that universities are becoming bastions of female-hating lechers who spend four years trying to bed as many women as possible, while making the word "bitch" one of the most used in their vocabularies. "

And females dress like sluts and go along with it. It's a TWO WAY STREET.

"Tom Wolfe's newest novel, I Am Charlotte Simmons, chronicles the unbelievable scorn for women that permeates the American campus, and how women have lost all dignity, becoming complicit in their own degradation, as they stop at nothing to become the male plaything. "

A female can only lose her dignity IF SHE ALLOWS THAT TO HAPPEN. The same is true with REAL men. It's a two sided disaster inspired by radical feminism.
49 posted on 05/04/2006 8:42:35 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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Although I disagree with the author's assumption that "dancer" was raped, I have to say that he makes some very good points.

My husband works for a large university and I'm on campus probably 2 or 3 days a week. I've watched the academic and social climate change pretty radically over time.

I don't think the author is bashing guys per se so much as he is pointing out that a culture which offers easy and immediate sexual gratification for men degrades both men and women. He rightly points out that women participate in their own downfall freely.

I also think the author is looking at the problem from a point of view that is informed by Orthodoxy to some extent. When men and women keep their distance from each other in public a little bit, they remain interesting and slightly exotic to each other. When men and women have done everything physically possible to each other by the age of 20 or so, they become jaded.

I think he made some good points.


58 posted on 05/04/2006 8:57:15 AM PDT by Gingersnap
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I think it's a case of sour grapes.

Me thinks "Schmuley Boteach" didn't get much in college.
62 posted on 05/04/2006 9:05:26 AM PDT by Blackirish (Hillary is angry AND brittle.)
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Think about it. Nearly all the men I know are only attracted to about one in 10 women, that is, the 10 percent of women they consider "hot." The other 90% leave them cold.

Well, considering the fact that 20% are loud-mouthed feminazis, 30% are obese, and 40% dress like men sitting down to watch football, this is not surprising.

82 posted on 05/04/2006 9:44:51 AM PDT by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head (13EAEE4)
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