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CONGRESSIONAL RECOIL FROM LATEST DUBAI TAKEOVER
Sierra Times ^ | 5/4/2006 | Diane Grassi

Posted on 05/04/2006 8:06:30 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy

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To: sinkspur
When a hawk (yeah right) like Schumer comes out against the deal on national security reasons things start to smell fishy.

This is the same guy that prefers open borders, no wiretapping for terrorists, closing Gitmo, etc.

42 posted on 05/04/2006 12:39:45 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: sinkspur
Why isn't the country opposed to this deal?

I don't know about the rest of the country but I didn't hear about it til the day it was signed over to the terrorists...Apparently our Prez and Congress kept the secret from us...

43 posted on 05/04/2006 3:38:17 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: TR8
well, face it people, it looks like George Bush is working actively AGAINST the American people however he can: Dubai, illegal aliens to start...

LOL!! A noob signs up, and all he's done is trash Bush.

DU getting boring for ya???

44 posted on 05/04/2006 3:44:34 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: Iscool
I don't know about the rest of the country but I didn't hear about it til the day it was signed over to the terrorists...Apparently our Prez and Congress kept the secret from us...

This Doncasters deal has been in the WSJ and other publications for three months; it was mentioned with the Dubai ports deal as "the next big issue coming down the road."

The fact is, Dubai was slapped down from the port terminals by union-loving Democrats and craven, pandering Republicans who tapped into a nasty nativist streak.

45 posted on 05/04/2006 3:47:17 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: sinkspur

THIS is the extent of the outrage? No Sean Vannity and Michael Slavage rants? No spittle flecked bloggers? No Chuckie Schumer?


46 posted on 05/04/2006 3:49:59 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: MNJohnnie
"Amazing how rabidly arrogant the American Know Nothings, who never even been outside their own trailer park much less the country, are about the rest of the world. They are proof positive that ignorance is NOT bliss."

...said the Republican Party to its base.

47 posted on 05/04/2006 3:51:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: CWOJackson
THIS is the extent of the outrage? No Sean Vannity and Michael Slavage rants? No spittle flecked bloggers? No Chuckie Schumer?

Yep. Nothing but whimpers and sputters.

Even "do not dub me shapka brohman" (or whatever his name is) is too bored to ping the known universe so he can harrumph.

48 posted on 05/04/2006 3:58:00 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

I don't think it's irrational to have a 'fear' of someone or something based on objective facts on record and available to all. It is perfectly reasonable that a minority behaving in an erratic, inhumane and violent way reflects on the majority. In 1940 only a minority of Germans were involved in the holocaust of the concentration camps. Surely we should have had German companies building our subs.


49 posted on 05/04/2006 4:02:58 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (NOT ON MY WATCH!)
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To: Iscool
"I don't know about the rest of the country but I didn't hear about it til the day it was signed over to the terrorists...Apparently our Prez and Congress kept the secret from us..."

Heyyy, Iscool. Last time I saw your name on FR you were doubting that only one company submitted a bid for the turbine blades Doncasters makes. When I proved that was the case, you never even bothered to respond. Now you are claiming the President and Congress have kept this whole deal secret. It should be incredibly clear now that you really don't know the facts concerning this issue. And now that it is becoming clear how badly (and easily) you were manipulated by the likes of Schumer and our media over the Dubai ports deal, you don't even have what it takes to admit you've been used. Well guess what...you've been used.

50 posted on 05/04/2006 8:25:34 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: USNBandit
Okay so are you equally concerned about the port facilities on the West Coast run by the Red Chinese?

Yes, and I have written about that for years. I'm surprised that more people aren;t upset that a country that has nuclear warheads pointed at our country is in control of ports, waterways, and other vital enterprises. And the Saudis should not be allowed ot run ports in our country either, as active supporters of terrorism. Unfortunately, that doesn't make the news nearly as much as the Dubai deal (which happily went Dubai-bye) or even teh Red Chinese situations.

51 posted on 05/04/2006 9:30:24 PM PDT by TBP
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To: Rokke
It should be incredibly clear now that you really don't know the facts concerning this issue. And now that it is becoming clear how badly (and easily) you were manipulated by the likes of Schumer and our media over the Dubai ports deal, you don't even have what it takes to admit you've been used. Well guess what...you've been used.

Oh I probably don't know as many facts as you do, but I know a couple of facts...And one fact I know is that the muzlims are robbing us blind with the cost of crude oil...And with the money they're shaking us down for, they're using it to buy up what's left of any industry in the U.S...

Another fact I know is that muzlims are fanatically religious and their religious book says to defeat infidels (that's us) any way they can even if they have to murder us, our wives and children included...

I was just as outraged when the Chinese took over ports in Calif. and when our gov't gave the Panama Canal to the Chinese...

I rarely watch tv and I don't get the local newspaper...If it wasn't for FR, I probably wouldn't know who Shumer is...So he doesn't get any credit for swaying me or probably anyone else...

But then I have to ask you, who convinced you that this is a good move for American citizens???

53 posted on 05/04/2006 11:31:54 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: Iscool
they're using it to buy up what's left of any industry in the U.S...

No they aren't. The companies being acquired are British companies with U.S. subsidiaries.

I'm not even going to attempt to explain supply and demand in the oil market.

54 posted on 05/05/2006 3:54:32 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: MNJohnnie
"I'm finished with this witness, your honor."

"You may step down!"

I don't know where you get this "rest of us" crap from Johnnie, but the majority of Americans want what I do: Aliens deported and no more Muslims running American Security!

Individuals like you, and like the gutless swine that comprise the Political Class, are the problem with American security.

I suppose you see nothing wrong with Jimmy Kahtah and the giveaway of the Panama Canal that is now operated by China. Before we know it we'll be like the lazy Fijians who took frequent naps and before they knew it the alien Indian population had taken over the government.

Granted the Indians aren't as bad as having the killer muslims running America, but it's not a stretch.

How stupid can our government be in promoting these muslim security companies into our country to run things? I guess all those mosques that have been built here will be able to be utilized to the fullest. Some of our cities will be another Marseilles where muslims will be the majority.

Either you're not thinking or you have a vested interest in this folly.

Anyone who, as you put it, crawls under the bed will no doubt find you there someday soon.

May God forbid.

Keep both hands on your "butt", close your eyes and pray that your head doesn't roll out from under that bed.

55 posted on 05/05/2006 5:06:41 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: coladirienzi
You don't put blue water navy in a situation where it has to run narrow straits in order to get out to the open ocean.

Great point. We need Dabai like we need another 9-11!

56 posted on 05/05/2006 5:12:45 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: Iscool
"And one fact I know is that the muzlims are robbing us blind with the cost of crude oil"

That might be true if the only place we got oil was from the Middle East. But the top two oil importers to this country are Mexico and Canada. In fact, of the top 10 oil importers to this country, only two are Muslim countries. And NOBODY is forcing us to buy oil from anyone. Meanwhile, the world demand for oil is skyrocketing while the supply stays essentially the same. That is despite the fact that we have billions of barrels of untapped oil just off our shores. So once again, you are letting your emotions take the place of facts, and that sets you up for easy MSM manipulation.

"Another fact I know is that muzlims are fanatically religious and their religious book says to defeat infidels (that's us) any way they can even if they have to murder us, our wives and children included..."

Well, that is true. But is has been true for 600 years. They can't even manage that in their own countries. The fact is, most Arab states are in the midst of very radical reforms taking them further away from radical Islam. The only places radical Islamists are finding success are in third world *$&@holes where the people have no reason to live anyway. I don't know about you, but they don't scare me.

"But then I have to ask you, who convinced you that this is a good move for American citizens???"

It is part of the free market. That is the best part of how our system works. No American group of investors was interested in buying Doncaster Inc. Do you suppose the federal government should have forced some American company to buy them out? That isn't how this country works. Nor should it be. American's employed in the factories involved will continue to work doing exactly the same thing they did before the deal was approved. It has ZERO impact on our national security or sovereignty despite the emotional rants you might read on FR.

I applaud your decision to ignore the MSM. But that doesn't absolve you from learning the facts in some other way. If you launch into an emotional rant on some topic without first arming yourself with the facts, you do absolutely nothing useful except burn a few calories and feed a fire that doesn't really care what it's burning.

57 posted on 05/05/2006 8:36:01 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: TR8
Excuse me sir or madame but I VOTED for Jorge

LOL!! Yeah, sure. Try that BS on somebody else.

58 posted on 05/05/2006 8:37:43 AM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: coladirienzi; FerdieMurphy
"You don't put blue water navy in a situation where it has to run narrow straits in order to get out to the open ocean."

So I guess you are suggesting we should stop all our Persian Gulf and Mediterranean Sea operations. That is brilliant. I'm sure we'll have no problems supporting operations in the Middle East if we just limit our Navy to operating in the Atlantic and Indian Oceans.

The ignorance displayed in threads like these is phenomenal.

59 posted on 05/05/2006 8:41:56 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: Rokke
...we should stop all our Persian Gulf and Mediterranean Sea operations.

We need a supply scheme that makes more sense than trusting muslims to help us in our war against their Koran-reading brethern.

What's not brilliant is the blind trust that some appear to have when it comes to the UAE!

60 posted on 05/07/2006 7:09:05 PM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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