Posted on 05/04/2006 2:31:48 PM PDT by Penny
This e-mail from the Tyson folk arrived a short time ago, and I am posting it for those who have yet to hear from Tyson to see (and compare responses). I am not italicizing the letter for ease of reading.
Thank you for your message. Contrary to what you may have heard, Tyson Foods has zero tolerance for employing people who are not authorized to work in the U.S. We use all available tools provided by the U.S. government to help verify the documents of the people we hire.
Tyson voluntarily participates in the Department of Homeland Security's Basic Pilot program, which allows us access to government databases that assist in the documentation authentication process. We train our hiring managers on proper employment documentation procedure and work to increase their awareness of identification and documentation fraud. We egularly audit our hiring process including work authorization documents and also use an independent, outside company, which conducts its own audit of our hiring practices.
The Basic Pilot is effective in helping us verify the Social Security numbers of the people we hire. Unfortunately, the program haslimitations. It does not currently help us in cases of identity fraud hen an individual assumes someone else's name by using their Social Security number. This is another reason we support efforts to reform mmigration law. If the government is going to continue place employers in the role of policing who has proper work documentation, then it should give companies more tools to do the job.
Gary Mickelson
gary.mickelson@tyson.com
Then why did they close on Pinko de Mayo?
That is the best humor post of the day. Zero tolerance.
[Since when?]
lol
This is all meaningless. What we need is a copy of this letter coupled with a "Roger More" style video clip of their plant workers. Lets take him at his word and put his plants to an empirical test.
here's mine, from the same guy:
Thank you for your message. Most of the more than 100 plants owned by
Tyson Foods were in operation Monday. For business reasons, we closed
about a dozen plants. Rather than experience a disruption in business
due to the absence of workers, we opted to close certain plants and make
up for the loss of production by shifting production to Saturday at some
locations. We did not encourage workers to participate in the rallies.
Contrary to what you may have heard, Tyson Foods has zero tolerance for
employing people who are not authorized to work in the U.S. We use all
available tools provided by the U.S. government to help verify the
documents of the people we hire.
Tyson voluntarily participates in the Department of Homeland Security's
Basic Pilot program, which allows us access to government databases that
assist in the documentation authentication process. We train our hiring
managers on proper employment documentation procedure and work to
increase their awareness of identification and documentation fraud. We
regularly audit our hiring process including work authorization
documents and also use an independent, outside company, which conducts
its own audit of our hiring practices.
The Basic Pilot is effective in helping us verify the Social Security
numbers of the people we hire. Unfortunately, the program has
limitations. It does not currently help us in cases of identity fraud
when an individual assumes someone else's name by using their Social
Security number. This is another reason we support efforts to reform
immigration law. If the government is going to continue place employers
in the role of policing who has proper work documentation, then it
should give companies more tools to do the job.
Same letter I got.
Too funny! I guess Tyson never wonders why they have dozens of 80yo women and dead people working for them.
Double Bull! Living here in Georgia, the chicken and carpet industries are and have been MAJOR culprits in bringing and sustaining the illegals here.
They are not legally allowed to ask about citizenship. (per my HR guy)
They are not required by law to go any further. It is a major loophole in the system.
Tyson may suspect they're illegal, but if he can't prove they're illegal, he could get hit with an EEO lawsuit if he turns aside a legal immigrant.
They should bring back the guy from the old Izuzu ads for Tyson.
The jury found Tyson not guilty.
pfhttttt!! yeah sure they check immigration status!!
we closed about a dozen plants
The one close to here was local.......and they aren't legal!!
Get new licensing for workers after checking for legal status with a new data base. One number..one worker. Over and out.
I understand the ire that Tyson generated by closing down for the protests. I also believe that Tyson is well aware that they are considered a deep pocket as far as monetary penalties go, and has probably cleaned up its act. It is likely the decision to close down certain operations was based on operating cost alone.
Illegals are for the most part hired by small under the table operations that pay in cash, at least as far as my experience. I have worked over the years with Guatemalan illegals, I think I got tb from one. Will know soon enough.
Let's try this again!!
The one close to here was closed.......and most aren't legal!!
Zero tolerance.
Except when it comes to support for illegal immigrants. Of course Tyson fails to realize that closing plants hurts everyone, legal and otherwise, due to the loss of wages and taxes for that day. But then again, the US dollars that illegals spend on Tyson products are just as green as the dollars we spend. Or should I say once spent.
This is true. Where I work, one of the qualifications is that you must be a US citizen or US national (I work in a sector of Homeland Security), but if someone wants to apply who has a greencard or is here illegally, we MUST accept their application. Same if they cannot speak a word of English (and let me tell you how fun THAT is).
Pretty sad, huh?
Let's see, their process of verifying social security numbers is the same as mine: go to website, put in SS#, get a screen that says "This is a valid SS number"!
Well, no duh!! Man, that's heavy background checking!
Poor Tyson. I bet they will contribute lots of dollars to the candidates who most want to help them purge the fakers from their payroll.
I imagine that Tyson is telling the truth. The Basic Pilot Project IS the best tool that the government offers employers for checking social security numbers and TYSON would be fools if they publicly claimed to be using this tool if they aren't.
When a company volunteers to sign-up for the Basic Pilot Project they are required to use it for EVERY new employee. I bet Tyson is doing that. I'm not sure what else we can ask of them since there are not any better tools.
But I bet Tyson has lots of illegals on their payroll. All an illegal needs is an anchor baby who is a citizen and therefore has a social security number issued to it not long after birth. The illegal can fraudulently use their own child's social security number because they know the name that matches the number and that is the only test done by the Basic Pilot Project.
I hate this situation but I don't see how you can blame Tyson for it if they are voluntarily using the best tools our worthless government provides.
Another trick I've seen played is the Temp service game.
A factory I worked at hired illegals through a temp service that had it's offices in the building. Over a 4 month period the temp service changed names 3 times but the office personell never changed.
If the govt can't tell who is legal, how can Tyson?
Sure, and they're never bribed any crooked politicians, either. This guy's got a future in stand up comedy if that CEO thing doesn't work out for him.
We go through the temp thing, too. Our company actually has the zero tolerance thing about illegals, as well. If they find out you are illegal they fire you. But. They don't go any further than required by law.
(...we MUST accept their application.)
That's not saying you have to HIRE them. If you suspect them, report them, in the interest of national security.
"help verify the documents"
Yep, those documents and social security numbers are real and belong to somebody... you're hired!
You can't. If you are a part of the HR dept. you can't discriminate - you must have proof.
Tyson Indicted for Smuggling Immigrants
12/19/2001
Everybody likes to post a link to the article about Tyson getting indicted but they never seem to have a link to the article about Tyson getting a not guilty verdict from the jury.
Post it if ya got it. (I don't remember this particular case.)
Since you posted the link about their indictment, you can now post a link about them being found guilty.
No, you don't.
You won't, because you can't.
No the employers are those who have nannies, day labor, landscaping, painting etc. one at a time.
Sure they don't. I once worked at Tyson. I was one of about 5% of employees that spoke English. Big donors to Clinton too.
Were I to speak English only barely and sit down to fill out the obligatory employer forms, the barest minimum check (which was the silver solution bullet of the 1986 "reform" legislation) would prove my Social Security name of Penny O'Mallory doesn't quite match my inability to speak English. When candidates have to produce verification of their recent employment history (as most U.S. citizens do when applying for work), human resource folks can glean in a second whether to pursue discovery of legality.
Of course, when corporations decide it's worth their while to verify documents instead of paying a huge fine and facing a legal battle, they'll verify everything about that candidate's application in 15 minutes. Well, it's off to bed. Good night all.
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