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1 posted on 05/04/2006 2:43:05 PM PDT by Crackingham
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"Do you have the ability to know what a true Christian is?"


I would say it's a lead pipe cinch there were no Christians on that committee.


2 posted on 05/04/2006 2:47:18 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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In the spirit of the recent past, I have one BIG question. How do they know that one person or another person was actually gay? A recent book tried to portray Lincoln as gay. I'm wondering if the people promoting this will label many historic figures as gay so as to elevate the profile of gays. Whether the historic figure was or was not gay. Wow, am I glad that my son has finished with the public schools in California!


3 posted on 05/04/2006 2:47:21 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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I'm sure there are probably some ignored man-boy lovers in our history that have "contributed" to society. Are they going to include them, as well?


4 posted on 05/04/2006 2:47:36 PM PDT by Sister_T (Kenneth Blackwell for Governor of Ohio!)
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So how do you include that in a textbook? "Horatio Blechmore not only founded the California Environmental Society, but he took it up the b*tt like a bad boy....".

???????????

5 posted on 05/04/2006 2:48:27 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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Does the Governator have to sign this....and will he?


6 posted on 05/04/2006 2:51:31 PM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has taken no position on the bill.


7 posted on 05/04/2006 2:55:26 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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I have a question. Is there a list of gay/lesbian accomplishments that are NOT in the textbooks simply because the accomplishment was achieved by the gay/lesbian? And will we be reading something like "The Lesbian, Hitlery Clinton, was crushed in a brutal landslide defeat for the presidency...." or similar? The Heterosexual blah blah blah did the blah blah blah. Is this important to the text? Is it important to history?

This is Posturing. That's all this is about. Chest beating, antler bumping, Political Posturing. Period.

8 posted on 05/04/2006 2:58:57 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Don't you wish there were a knob on the computer to turn up the intelligence?)
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Got to move to a new state. Any recomendations from you FReepres? I have been in this state since I was 3 years old and am now ready to move out! Have relatives in Ark. and it sounds ok, but you know they voted Clinton in for Govenor!


12 posted on 05/04/2006 3:03:54 PM PDT by calex59 (No country can survive multiculturalism. Dual cultures don't mix, history has taught us that!)
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Seems fair enough. We should have a truthful description of history. If someone did something good but engaged in same-sex sexual behavior, the history books should reflect both.

But as long as truth is the criteria ... how about requiring all of the children to watch "And the band played on ...", showing how the homosexuals refused close the bath houses and reduce their promiscuity, and how this made AIDS (nee GRIDs) a world wide epidemic ... and how they insisted on donating blood, thus giving AIDS to hemophiliacs and killing them ... and what the real health and longevity statistics are for homosexual men (pandemic infections, reduced life span)...and what the domestic assault statistics are for lesbian couples ...

As long as we are going to tell the truth, let's tell the whole truth.


16 posted on 05/04/2006 3:20:37 PM PDT by Mack the knife
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Hey, what about the historical contributions of those who preferred hummers? I demand that the hummer community be adequately represented in our state's textbooks.


17 posted on 05/04/2006 3:22:10 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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In anal sex we trust....


19 posted on 05/04/2006 3:29:09 PM PDT by Always Right
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FREEPERS:

Right now, today, right away, please respond by taking these easy steps:

CALL ARNOLD: Use today's bad news to spur you to righteousness. Call Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger (even if you've called before) at any of his offices. Leave a message saying "I'm alarmed that SB 1437, the sexual indoctrination bill, has passed another committee. Please announce that you'll veto SB 1437, AB 606, and AB 1056."

State Capitol Office: (916) 445-2841/ fax (916) 445-4633
Fresno Office: (559) 445-5295 / fax (559) 445-5328
San Diego Office: (619) 525-4641 / fax (619) 525-4640
Los Angeles Office: (213) 897-0322 / fax (213) 897-0319
San Francisco Office: (415) 703-2218 / fax (415) 703-2803
Riverside Office: (951) 680-6860 / fax (951) 680-6863
Washington D.C. Office: (202) 624-5270 / fax (202) 624-5280

Email Arnold Schwarzenegger either of 2 ways

http://www.govmail.ca.gov/ OR

http://www.savecalifornia.com/getactive/blastmail.php




21 posted on 05/04/2006 3:33:32 PM PDT by dcnd9
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If basic history is incomplete without explicit mention of people's sexual proclivities, why stop with just the homos?

Where is the seperate chapter for historical figures who preferred blondes, or dressed their wives up as schoolgirls, or liked pink lingerie better than white?

This enforced invisibility can't stand!


22 posted on 05/04/2006 3:34:06 PM PDT by CGTRWK
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The is to be expected when the ACLU and Darwinism control the decisions of what is acceptable to be taught in the public schools.


28 posted on 05/04/2006 3:46:04 PM PDT by JCEccles (Kitzmiller Syndrome: anger and paranoia that someone is harboring critical thoughts about Darwinism.)
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The fruitless pursuit of Dobie Gillis is at the root of Kuehl's problems.


Sheila James Kuehl as Zelda Gilroy
Zelda Gilroy chased Dobie for four seasons, but Dobie only wanted Thalia Menninger - - - or Aphrodite Millican, or Giselle Hurlbutt, or - - - well you get the idea, anybody but Zelda! Nevertheless, Dobie did have at least an unconscious weakness for Zelda that visibly manifested itself whenever Zelda wrinkled her nose at Dobie: He always involuntarily wrinkled back, immediately protesting, "Now cut that out!" Sheila James Kuehl left acting to become an attorney. She is now a Democratic Assemblywoman in California and a well-known champion of gay rights.

30 posted on 05/04/2006 3:55:26 PM PDT by Zender500
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Calif. Senate committee OKs bill to add gays, lesbians to textbooks

Paraphrased and added to from something I just recently posted on another topic discussion:

It appears that the California Senate is skipping a step by assuming and declaring an innate "homosexual" status exists...

Hopefully someone will legally chalenge this non scientific assumption...

Regardless legal challenges yet made, one aspect premising the issue is comprised of physical scientists who can not yet identify or measure ANYTHING physical that establishes innate homosexuality.

Another aspect premising the issue is comprised of psychologists (pseudo scientists) who authoritatively declare there is NOTHING psychologically different (disordered) differentiating heterosexuals and homosexuals...

It would appear that reconciling the "science" from both sides of the house, the experts comprising both physical science and psychology, would necessarily lead one to an inescapable leftist enraging conclusion -- there are no homosexuals but ONLY homosexual activities...

As such, the textbooks if factual, would refer to individuals who contributed to society and at some point in their life engaged in whatever flavor of homosexual activity. This begs the question: "which homosexual activity has produced the most benefits for society?"

The question is WHY do the leftists want to turn educational materials into a pseudo version of the National Enquirer to educate children in gossip about those that may or may not have engaged in whatever homosexual activity? IT seems as if there is some kind of agenda? LOL

32 posted on 05/04/2006 4:03:30 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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Supporters argued that all students should be made aware of the role that gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people have made



Will AID's be included in those lessons?


34 posted on 05/04/2006 4:06:16 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (If I wanted to live in Mexico, I'd FRIGGING MOVE THERE!)
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"I care about their accomplishments. I don't care who they slept with," England told the committee.

Must never have studied the history of western civilizations. Often times who was sleeping with whom determined whether a nation was an ally or an enemy.

41 posted on 05/04/2006 5:59:26 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Don't use illegals: HIREPATRIOTS.COM)
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The bill would bar textbooks from discriminating against gays. It also orders school boards to use instructional material that reflects the "sexual diversity" of society and include the contributions of people who are gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender.

One could say I've read some fairly gay books, but I don't know if the authors were homosexuals. Why must they emphasize sexual diversity in literature? Can a lesbian write something that isn't about being a lesbian? One has to wonder.

The inclusion of "transgender" is even stranger. Is there a classification of works by people who believe that they are a glass of orange juice?

Why do they not hold to an attitude of psychological diversity and promote material from schizophrenics? Perhaps Wesley Willis in the Music department, for example.
46 posted on 05/04/2006 7:12:28 PM PDT by Das Outsider (Are Marxist academics and apostate bishops trustworthy enough to tell you who the "real" Jesus is?)
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Every day, I'm a little happier that we decided to enroll our daughter in a Christian school next year.


50 posted on 05/04/2006 9:31:49 PM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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