Posted on 05/06/2006 10:09:31 AM PDT by FairOpinion
Last October, J. David Woodard, a Clemson University political scientist who doubles as a strategist for conservative Republican candidates, polled 450 South Carolina GOP voters, asking: "When it comes to politics, do you consider yourself closer to George W. Bush or John McCain?" Sixty-three percent picked Bush. Twenty-one percent said it made no difference. And just 16 percent chose McCain.
The message? "I think McCain has a lot of work to do if he's going to win here," Woodard told me recently. "There is a long-term memory, especially with Christian conservatives, about his comments after the 2000 race."
Last September, with a McCain candidacy on the horizon and the senator out-polling most other potential Republican candidates, Falwell called the senator and asked for an appointment. The two had not spoken for years, since before the 2000 election.
Later, Falwell asked McCain to come to Liberty University. The trip has been portrayed as the beginning of a rapprochement, but in fact the reconciliation is already well underway. When I asked Falwell if he could see himself supporting McCain for president, he quickly answered, "Of course. If he is the candidate, he'll certainly have my support."
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Remember, McCain pushed through the Terrorist Protection Bill, so we can't get much needed intelligence from them, and he just recently was willing to give up the First Amendment.
U.S. Must Clarify Commitment to Abide by McCain Ban on Cruel, Inhuman and Degrading Treatment
http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/media/etn/2006/alert/202/
The United States opening presentation before the U.N. Committee against Torture failed to make clear the United States commitment to fully implement the McCain ban on cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment for all prisoners in U.S. custody. Human Rights First called on the Administration to implement a single interrogation standard for all prisoners in keeping with the McCain legislation.
If the Administration continues to carve out groups of people who are not legally entitled to protection from torture and abuse, as it suggested again today, its hard to understand how it intends to comply with the law Congress passed that prohibits the abuse of all detainees held anywhere by any U.S. personnel, Rona said.
McCain will never make it out of the primaries
Just don't forget that he's better than any demonRAT.
Let's hope it won't come to that.
That's why I said I was hoping for a strong R. candidate, who can win the primary and be able to beat the Dem nominee.
Rudy has a much better chance than McLame! I can't see Christians voting for Rudy but if it's that or Hitlary...well...they learned what happens when they stay home...Clinton and they are to smart to let that happen again.
Absolutely, 100% correct!
End of story.
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He roasted the 1st over open coals with McCain/Feingold (I wish someone would put that again before the Roberts court).
That is like bing the best yodeler in Compton.
Plus the only place he's going in the near is six feet under, he is a sick (physically) man. (mentally we know)
I caught him last week on CSPAN during the Senate's 'debate' of Pork in the Emergency Spending Bill. The complete left side of his face was swollen and covered by a huge 3"x3" (at least) band aid. He's got cancer - period.
This is satire; right?
McLaim is the Ross Perot of the 2008 election..
McCain cannot carry a Southern state. Maybe one of the liberal states' primary, but nothing south of the Mason Dixon Line. He is vehemently despised in the South.
Let's be clear about this:
Think of the judges McCain will appoint and compare them to ANY democrat.
Think of which party McCain will have to have backing him for legislative and appointment purposes and compare that to the Democrats.
Think of who influences McCain and compare that to who influences the Democrats.
Think of the groups that will back McCain (admittedly somewhat reluctantly) and compare that to who will back ANY Democrat.
The chasm between US and THEM is unbridgeable. McCain may be hanging over the edge of that gulf, but he is still on our side of it.
McVey
With all due respect when you look at his actual voting record and not his phony lifetime ACU rating, he isn't. He votes right along with his "buddies" Kennedy and Kerry a majority of the time on the important Republican / Conservative Bills.
One year, not long ago, his yearly rating was a pathetic 67. That doesn't even classify as RINO.
As I sai, in the meantime, let's hope for a good Republican candidate.
There are plenty others, who can not only win the primary, but beat the Dem candidate, whoever he is.
I still like a Jeb Bush/ Condi Rice 2008 ticket.
McCain and the beast display many of the same character faults.
An irate female Republican caller from Arizona to a radio show said that McCain's office responded to her and her group that "he does what he thinks is right". Her response was that his job is to do what the people of Arizona think is right not enforce his personal opinion.
I believe she has started a movement called mothersagainstmccain.com maybe .org or something similar.
Not exactly following the concept of a representative republic. It's the will of the people not the will of the person.
McCain -- the real "Manchurian Candidate".
McCain: "I would rather have a clean government than one where quote First Amendment rights are being respected, that has become corrupt. If I had my choice, I'd rather have the clean government."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1623984/posts
So that's what that noise is that I hear, along with the drums, off the 405 driving through Compton late at night.
By "high priestess" I assume you refer to Hillary Clinton? Hopefully, we don't get that far, but I wonder what Jim Robinson would do if faced with McCain vs. Clinton?
Do they yodel in Compton? LOL
I can with a clear conscience vote for every race but the Presidential race. I'll leave it blank if I have to. That's not staying home, it's just not liking the options in that one race. I think a lot of Democrats in Florida didn't like Gore, then they later claimed they meant to vote for him. But it is not unheard of for a voter to vote in one race and offer no choice in the other.
Not too much
"So that's what that noise is that I hear, along with the drums, off the 405 driving through Compton late at night."
Uh...those aren't drums.
What rubbish. Looks like York is auditioning for another appearance on MTP where Russert will get him to criticize Bush. York, Kate o'Bierne, etc., circulate from one sunday program to another because they are in the Novak mold.
"McCain vs. Clinton?"
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Let's hope and pray and work to make sure that will NOT be our choice in 2008.
Yes, but I am not a member of the "any Republican but McCain" club.
I will be happy to be a member of the "any Republican who can win" club--even Rudi and McCain.
We are facing just a disaster if the Dems get in charge of making appointments--eventually enough Republicans will break ranks and vote to give their appointees a vote. If they don't the MSM will have the weak-minded majority believing that Republicans do nothing but obstruct.
McVey
You can see from my tag line, that I agree with you, but I am still hoping that we won't have to choose between McCain and Hillary.
The worst problem with McCain is that he is unstable and you can't trust his judgment.
But I don't really think that he has a chance to win the R. nomination.
I think the Dems are pushing McCain, and make him sound as a viable candidate for the Republicans, hoping that Republicans will be dumb enough to vote for McCain in the primary, but then not vote for him in sufficient numbers in the actual election, giving Hillary the victory.
Nope, no way, zip, nada, nyet, what part of HELL NO doesn't McCain understand.
I don't think he does either. But I have been thinking about who is likely to emerge from Iowa, NH and SC and right now, I have no clue. We have a number of good candidates (such as Allen) who can hold the states we need to hold, but we need someone who can take a big Dem state away. And we need to hold Ohio--that may be tough.
It has crossed my mind that, in the red states, Hillary may lose so big that she could, if Ohio falls (or some combination of CO, IA, NV and NM (what happens if Richardson becomes the VP candidate)) lose the popular and win the electoral.
But will the Dems be crazy enough to select someone who will not be able to govern? We are, sadly, getting a taste of that right now. (Bush has unfortunately become the issue.)
McVey
I do -- and it scares me.
You may be right, but if you think of the judges ANY Dem appoints, you (and the country) should be terrified.
By the way, I like you tag. I just finished a series of lectures on Churchill--what a leader! The essence of leadership.
I don't see how McCain is going to suck up to the Evangelicals after that dirty trick of working with the liberal media to tar Bush for visiting Bob Jones University, thus attempting to get Evangelicals and Catholics feuding with each other.
It didn't work, and I don't believe either Catholics or Evangelicals appreciated it. McCain would be just about as convincing taking a photo-op holding a Bible as bill or hillary.
Strange story, a few of my friends, on the liberal side, went to a fundraiser that Hillary was hosting.
This was right after the elections, and she did a speech and then a little Q and A segment.
She said a couple of really weird things, including faulting Kerry for trying so hard to win Ohio when (according to her) it was unwinnable and that he should have instead tried to win other swing states.
She also made some negative remarks about Iowa that confused everybody.
My friends were there representing their teachers union, but they were kind of confused by the things she said, but the way she made it sound was as if Ohio was like texas.
Don't even think it.
In most cases, I will make a "lesser of evils" calculation, and vote Republican. I may not like the guy, but theoretically he's better than the alternative.
There are only about two exceptions. I will never vote for Specter, not for anything. The man turns my stomach.
And I will never vote for McCain. Not for anything.
So, if anyone in the Repub hierarchy is listening, you'd better factor that in. He may look like the perfect candidate to you, and you have the right to make your calculations. But calculate winning without me. I will vote my own name, or my dog's name, before I pull the lever for McCain. So don't do it.
If you think that McCain losing to Clinton might destroy the country, then count this as a warning. The destruction didn't come when we sat out the election, it came when you ignored our warnings, and nominated McCain.
I think McCain is a Democrat in disguise. I would not trust him with my wallet, much less the country.
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