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Posted on 05/08/2006 5:32:10 PM PDT by Plutarch
Posted on 05/06/2006 10:35:39 AM PDT by FARS
In a lecture that touched on the meaning of jihad, a leading Saudi cleric declared the United States is collapsing and Muslims must patiently await their ultimate victory.
Sheik Nasser bin Suleiman Al-Omar said in remarks broadcast on the Arab satellite network Al-Jazeera April 19, "The Islamic nation now faces a great phase of jihad," according to the Middle East Media Research Institute.
Referring to sacred Muslim writings that accompany the Quran, the sheik said "Whoever is familiar with the Sunna and the Hadith knows that a battle against the enemies of Allah awaits on the horizon, in which the Muslims will be victorious. This is confirmed by the reliable hadiths, as well as by reality."
Jihad is now taking place in Afghanistan, "Palestine," Iraq, Chechnya, Kashmir and the Philippines, he said.
Meanwhile, the sheik asserted to his audience, love for America is "now disappearing from the hearts, within America itself and elsewhere, whereas Islam is growing even within America, my brothers."
"Islam is making steady progress in America," Al-Omar said. "Twenty-five thousand people have converted to Islam every year since 9-11, and an even larger figure was mentioned in the New York Times."
The sheik cited a report "submitted by the American intelligence to the American officials, regarding the religion of Islam, which some think is defeated or weak today," saying Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and Muslims soon will become one-third of the world's population.
He quoted a "U.S. Congressman John Morlan" – there is no representative by that name – who supposedly said: "The 21st century is the century of Islam, which will offer an opportunity for peace in the world."
The sheik added: "There is no doubt that it is Islam that will bring peace, and not the U.N., America, Russia, or anyone else."
Interviewed for a PBS "Frontline" documentary on the House of Saud in December 2004, Al-Omar opposed the rewriting of Saudi religious textbooks to eliminate anti-Western, anti-Jewish teachings, and he was one of 26 prominent Saudi clerics who signed a fatwa saying Iraqis should rise up and oppose the Americans in Iraq.
In the Al Jazeera lecture, turning to Iraq, Al-Omar said that with its casualties, "America is now in a predicament."
"You follow the media. America is looking for a way out," he said. "Yes, I am aware of the harsh reality. I am aware of what is happening to our Muslim brothers in Iraq, and I'm referring especially to the Sunni Arabs, against whom all have conspired and who have been deserted by their closest friends.
The sheik claimed American reports of the number of casualties in Iraq, about 2,000, are false. He cited "one of the news agencies" and "several of Iraq's religious scholars" who claim there have been more than 40,000 American and Western casualties in three years. Al-Omar said Americans are dumping their casualties in the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, prompting Iraqi scholars to ask him for a fatwa.
The sheik explained: "Because there were so many casualties, the Americans began to throw them into the Tigris and the Euphrates. The fish have eaten from the flesh of the American and have gotten fat. Are we permitted to eat these fish or not?' Yes. This is the truth, brothers." Al-Omar said the "Islamic nation now faces a great phase of jihad, unlike anything we knew 50 years ago."
Fifty years ago, jihad was attributed only to a few individuals in Palestine and in some other Muslims areas, he said, but "following the events of Afghanistan, the nation has embraced jihad. Young and old, men and women - everyone is talking about jihad."
Some young Muslims today, however, because of their "love for jihad," are getting involved in conflicts that are not properly jihad, he said, adding all these minor battles, which took place in certain Muslim countries, only delay the victory."
"This diverts the strife and calamity into the lands of the Muslims, instead of aiming them directly at the enemies," he said.
In a June 13, 2004, interview with Al-Majd television, Al-'Omar said America is collapsing from within."
"Where are America's principles of justice and democracy?" he asked. " … Is America now, with its reputation and status, the same America of 30 years ago – the source of hope for many people?"
Islam is "advancing according to a steady plan," the sheik said, "to the point that tens of thousands of Muslims have joined the American army and Islam is the second largest religion in America."
"Today," he said, "America is defeated. I have no doubt, not even for a minute, that America is on its way to destruction."
But the United States "will be destroyed gradually," he said, requiring Muslims to be "patient." MEMRI recently reported Libyan Leader Moammar Gadhafi declared in a speech aired on Al Jazeera that Islam will take over Europe without violent force within a few decades.
"We have 50 million Muslims in Europe," Gadhafi said. "There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe – without swords, without guns, without conquests. The 50 million Muslims of Europe will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades."
The elections, for example are an "if" but to add another "if" - if you go to http://www.antimullah.com and read the lead article, all the way to the end, some of the "ifs" are "explained" there.
Bad things ARE happening, we simply are unaware or ignoring them. No "if" about that but how when and where depends on certain variables that are in progress.
In 75,000 years they will have a majority enough to declare victory.
"The elections, for example are an "if" but to add another "if" ..."
There are a lot of "if's" in this world -
Just what do you think would be the difference between a World War started by Fanatic Islamics ( which is what Bin Laden wanted ) and a World War started by the U.S. ( which is what Bin Laden wanted ) ?
Our enemies see our weaknesses and assume they can bide their time while they exploit them... but the clock ticks for them too.
The truth will not be silenced forever.
Bump!
"There is no doubt that it is Islam that will bring peace, and not the U.N., America, Russia, or anyone else."
Aah yes, when I think of Islam, I think of peace. The sheikh basically is saying that once the whole world is conqured by Islam, there will be peace. Reality shows he is wrong. When there are only Muslims around, they just tend to kill each other. Without the threat of nuclear proliferation and the threat to the world's oil supply, the rest of the world would have been happy to just leave the Islamic countries alone to kill each other.
:-)) Does there have to be a difference? Who or where a fire started is only philosophically a consideration. What the fire does is the focus, really.
Here too, how the conflagration starts is not the point but whether this "backburn" bombing-fire, to limit oir reduce final damage, will work of not.
In my opinion and estimate, if the "backburn" is too small it will not and the whole area of the world will be engulfed.
That's why I so strongly propose a massive (though not yet nuclear) eradication of the elite military in Iran. that's the correct size backburn. Otherwise million times more stuff will burn and be destroyed. Possibly including you and me
cheers,
"Twenty-five thousand people have converted to Islam every year since 9-11, and an even larger figure was mentioned in the New York Times."
What I should have added is that around 1.5 MILLION Africans on that continent - have rejected Islam and turned to other religions. Many to Christianity.
Aha, as Plutarch has said:
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Posted on 05/08/2006 5:32:10 PM PDT by Plutarch
"That's why I so strongly propose a massive (though not yet nuclear) eradication of the elite military in Iran."
So it's the MILITARY of Iran that has you so scared ?
"So it's the MILITARY of Iran that has you so scared ?"
Parts of it. The Pasdaran (Revolutionary Guards), the mostly Arab and foreign mercenary Basijis, the Ghods Brigade (special forces for overseas terrorism) and a few paramilitary groups whose role is to suppress dissent.
My focus on them is not fear of them as a military fighting force but a knowledge that they are the "bodyguards" for the Mullahs and as long as they are there, the mentally and spiritually exhausted populace will not move against the regime and their weapons.
I think Islam HAS taken over Europe.
I read some time back that approximately 400 Christian churches in Europe have been sold and transformed into Islamic Mosque.
I have not read that though I know some have changed.
Interesting historically is that churches were most often built on pagan worship or special venerated sites.
The church to mosque can almost be seen as another "morphing".
"I read some time back that approximately 400 Christian churches in Europe have been sold and transformed into Islamic Mosque."
In Europe, especially in Spain, buildings have changed function many times over the centuries.
Do you remember if your source gave you a time frame, and figures on how many of them were transformed back again ?
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