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Tancredo Rips Government’s Spying of Minutemen
tancredo.house.gov ^ | 05/09/2006 | Will Adams

Posted on 05/09/2006 12:40:29 PM PDT by NapkinUser

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Congressmen Tom Tancredo (R-CO) decried a recently-disclosed U.S. Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) practice of tipping off the Mexican military to the location of Minutemen volunteers. According to a story in this morning’s Inland Daily Bulletin, CBP notifies the Mexican government of when and where the Minutemen are planning to monitor the border and if violence is used by the Minutemen against illegal aliens. There has not been one verified instance of Minutemen volunteers using violence against illegal aliens.

“The Mexican military doesn’t exactly have a ‘good government’ reputation. The Border Patrol has documented more than two hundred incursions into the U.S by the Mexican military, and Texas sheriffs even apprehended Mexican government vehicles that were used to ferry drug runners across the border. By tipping off Mexico’s military to the Minutemen’s location, the U.S. government is asking for trouble,” said Tancredo.

“Heavily-armed military officials stationed only yards from civilians are at least intimidating. I can only surmise that the Border Patrol bureaucrats’ spying is meant to have a chilling effect on the Minutemen’s recruitment of more volunteers,” said Tancredo.

“The Minutemen haven’t been accused of breaking the law. Quite the contrary—they have gone out of their way to aid law enforcement and ensure the safety of our border. The U.S. government has no grounds upon which to stifle the Minutemen’s constitutional right to organize,” Tancredo concluded. “I want to know the legal basis for CBP informing a foreign government of the activities of private citizens who are obeying the law.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Colorado; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; border; borderlist; bordersecurity; bush; bushamnesty; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigration; invasionusa; loudobbs; minutemanproject; minutemen; mmp; openborders; saracarter; tancredo; tomtancredo; treason
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1 posted on 05/09/2006 12:40:31 PM PDT by NapkinUser
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To: NapkinUser

bttt


2 posted on 05/09/2006 12:41:25 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


3 posted on 05/09/2006 12:43:50 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: NapkinUser

I wrote Senator Cornyn a letter as soon as the news of this came out today.


4 posted on 05/09/2006 12:44:42 PM PDT by lormand (...the wrong person came out of the water that fateful night in Chappaquiddick)
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To: NapkinUser
“I want to know the legal basis for CBP informing a foreign government of the activities of private citizens who are obeying the law.”

Interesting question, that...

5 posted on 05/09/2006 12:45:27 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: NapkinUser

If the President saw this and was in support of enforcing our borders, he would immediately order the powers that be to knock it off.

I guess that won't be happening any time soon.


6 posted on 05/09/2006 12:45:49 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: cva66snipe; B Knotts; pbrown

The story continues.


7 posted on 05/09/2006 12:45:53 PM PDT by Cagey (Doesn't play well with others)
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To: NapkinUser

BTT


8 posted on 05/09/2006 12:45:57 PM PDT by Kakaze (I'm now a single issue voter.....exterminate Al Quaida)
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To: NapkinUser

If This is true, President Bush should not wonder why his approval ratings are falling.


9 posted on 05/09/2006 12:46:32 PM PDT by paguch
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To: NapkinUser

We again have net the enemy and again it is us.


10 posted on 05/09/2006 12:46:56 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: BenLurkin

What's worse is they had a minuteman from Illinois on the local radio show saying that "the show will drop tomorrow." Something will show up in the newspapers tomorrow apprently. She said the government is spying on the minutemen, not the border patrol since the only operate on border states, and sending the information to Mexico. She said the reporting tomorrow will tell of how the government told the government of Mexico how there are "about 50 minutemen members in the Illinois chapter with little sway over local politicians."

This is going to get big, I think. Props to the small mom-and-pop newspaper in Ontario, California which found this information (don't know if it was leaked or what.)


11 posted on 05/09/2006 12:48:32 PM PDT by NapkinUser (http://www.vasquezforidaho.org/)
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To: NapkinUser
The thread on the issue:

U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols (telling the Mexican government)
12 posted on 05/09/2006 12:49:07 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: NapkinUser; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...


(Expletive Deleted) Ping!

13 posted on 05/09/2006 12:49:55 PM PDT by HiJinx (Remember the Maine! Remember the Alamo! Remember Herndon!)
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To: NapkinUser

My hero.


14 posted on 05/09/2006 12:53:55 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: NapkinUser

BUMP


15 posted on 05/09/2006 12:54:35 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: NapkinUser; ntnychik; devolve; PhilDragoo; Smartass; dixiechick2000
                           

16 posted on 05/09/2006 12:54:37 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: All

If Bush wasn't already toast, he will be if this story is true!

This President is now officially a FAILURE should this story be verified.

The Republican Party is in the toaster and getting warmer heading toward full toasting.

Butter and jelly anyone?


17 posted on 05/09/2006 12:55:29 PM PDT by negril
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To: paguch
If This is true, President Bush should not wonder why his approval ratings are falling.

Agreed. The actions of this administration leave me dumbfounded. It is as though they want to loose the House in 06. It reminds me of his dad looking at his debate with Clinton where he stares down at his watch. The very second Bush41 reneged on the "read my lips, no new taxes" I knew he wasn't a true conservative. Bush's closest adviser is his wife, she is with him every night. I really don't know where she stands on many social issues but it is easy to see in the past where "nagging" wives have influenced their President husbands. I am not saying it in this case. However, someone with Coolidge's understanding of the Constitution would have done everything in their power to get rid, for example, the wholly unconstitutional Dept of Education. Anyone who cherishes Liberty and love of small government would never support unwieldy bureaucracies. To truly have the citizens educated we must separate State and school. Back on topic. I have tried and tried to understand why Bush is neglecting his base. I can only conclude he is either not truly a conservative or someone close is influencing him to be more socialist. Any way, I found this latest revelation, if true, to be absolutely disgusting.

18 posted on 05/09/2006 12:56:23 PM PDT by liberty2004
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To: NapkinUser

I just can't hardly believe this. I mean, I know it is true, but it is so disappointing. How our government could treat Patriots this way is beyond me. The Republicans better put a stop to it.


19 posted on 05/09/2006 12:56:28 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: NapkinUser

Nice find. The Patriot Act is only gonna be used on "turrurists". Of course, just who's a terrorist is entirely subjective.


20 posted on 05/09/2006 12:56:33 PM PDT by SandfleaCSC ( “Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy.”)
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To: gubamyster

Wow do I feel proud that little ole me is now probably on their watch list. I've come along way baby.....as the cigarette dangles from my mouth./sarc....I don't smoke.


21 posted on 05/09/2006 12:56:43 PM PDT by del4hope (Do not covet thy neighbors' country)
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To: negril

The Dems would push them over the border to be arrested by the Mexican military!!


22 posted on 05/09/2006 12:58:31 PM PDT by Antique Gal (Antique Gal)
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To: NapkinUser

This is sickening. Who do our pols work for?


23 posted on 05/09/2006 1:01:17 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: NapkinUser

bump


24 posted on 05/09/2006 1:01:54 PM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: Antique Gal

I don't understand your point.

If your point is the dems are worse, I say not that much worse based on what I see and hear lately when I wake up.


25 posted on 05/09/2006 1:02:20 PM PDT by negril
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To: BenLurkin

This is unbelievable. Treason of the highest order! I can't believe I voted for this president... twice! I had no idea that Bush would not only ignore the border situation completely, but to actively work against LEGAL citizens of this country who are LEGALLY protecting our borders and people of this country. All for what?! Cheap labor and votes? Good lord... I thought it couldn't get any worse than Clinton! If I never hear of the name Bush again, it'll be too soon.


26 posted on 05/09/2006 1:02:27 PM PDT by Tarkus2040 (We need more Patton and less patent leather! --Michael Savage)
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To: NapkinUser
"Just Damm!" bump
27 posted on 05/09/2006 1:02:58 PM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: NapkinUser

Government and especially law enforcement cant stand to see someone else trying to do their job.

Vigilantism frightens them much worse than Al Quaeda, they cant let anyone be seen as doing what they cant or wont do.

Now while I dont see the minutemen as Vigilantes, the Law Enforcment system does. You can break the law all you want in this country that doesnt seem to matter a lot but never take the law into your own hands , they will track you down like a dog.


28 posted on 05/09/2006 1:03:16 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: sheik yerbouty

They obviously think they do not work for us. That is clear as crystal.


29 posted on 05/09/2006 1:03:31 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (Proud Dad of Twins, What Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger!!!!!!)
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To: NapkinUser

Bush sends our men and women to war, too many die, too many come home maimed yet Bush has refused to protect the home land from the Mexican border invasion. Now our own government (Bush) is caught being complicit in that invasion. Jail would be too good for any US official involved in this complicity.


30 posted on 05/09/2006 1:05:16 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: NapkinUser

Jerry Doyle planning to talk about this topic after the hard break.


31 posted on 05/09/2006 1:05:28 PM PDT by tertiary01 (The Pubs have no one to blame but themselves for their defeat if the borders are not closed!)
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To: Tarkus2040

Share your feelings entirely. It has been jaw-dropping shocking watching this President sell-out his base on a daily basis since his second term began.

Don't even try Jeb. Daddy and brother have destroyed your presidential ambitions.


32 posted on 05/09/2006 1:06:31 PM PDT by negril
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To: Sir Gawain

Our next President.


33 posted on 05/09/2006 1:07:04 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: tertiary01

I think I'll watch Lou Dobbs tonight, something I very rarily do.


34 posted on 05/09/2006 1:07:28 PM PDT by NapkinUser (http://www.vasquezforidaho.org/)
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To: NapkinUser
I saw the Daily Bulletin article here last night and called it into Tancredo's D.C. office this morning. His phone admin recorded the link and said she'd pass it on.

They must get a boatload of crank calls because they always seem genuinely thrilled to hear some encouragement. (And, I'm certain I wasn't the only one to give them a heads-up on this.)

35 posted on 05/09/2006 1:07:49 PM PDT by kitchen (Over gunned? Hell, that's better than the alternative!)
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To: Cagey

I'm still dumbfounded by it. I sit here as the raw truth about what this government is doing, informing a foreign hostile government the movement of law abiding American citizens, and have to stop myself from crying at the utter betrayal.


36 posted on 05/09/2006 1:08:16 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: NapkinUser

Sounds like Bush is wanting an international incident. If bodily harms comes to a minuteman, Bush could shut the minutemen down. I get a weird felling border security will be Bush's first veto.


37 posted on 05/09/2006 1:08:16 PM PDT by one more state (I wish I could cash in on these illegals like the rest of them)
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To: lowbridge

bump again


38 posted on 05/09/2006 1:08:19 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: Cagey
Thanks for the ping. Tom Tancredo is one of the few there that seems to "get it."

I'm not even a hard-core border hawk, but this kind of thing (our government spying on U.S. citizens for a foreign government) just makes me sick.

39 posted on 05/09/2006 1:08:27 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Tarkus2040

I don't know, could it worse yes I guess it could.I'm just disgusted with the whole lot of them,what are we going to do? The Dems are slightly worst then the Republicans.I just want more real conservatives in office!!


40 posted on 05/09/2006 1:08:34 PM PDT by Antique Gal (Antique Gal)
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To: drypowder

This is unconscionable. I can barely contain my rage when I hear more about this.


41 posted on 05/09/2006 1:08:55 PM PDT by riri
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To: negril
This President is now officially a FAILURE TURNCOAT should this story be verified.
42 posted on 05/09/2006 1:09:04 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: yellowdoghunter
I just can't hardly believe this. I mean, I know it is true, but it is so disappointing. How our government could treat Patriots this way is beyond me. The Republicans better put a stop to it.

It is time for all Republican's to stand tall and not stand for this. Remember we are the Republican party and we define where it goes.

I see this issue as another reason to call and demand this stop now. Support the Minutemen financially too. Support all anti-amnesty/strong border patrol candidates and politicians. If each and everyone of us do this, it will add up and shift what is happening. Keep the faith, do the footwork . . . what is the alternative? To give up and let out own government hand our country to the Mexicans? No!!

This is the time to participate and say we will not tolerate or except this betrayal. No blame, no passive whining--fight! Fight for America--our forefathers did and we shall too!

43 posted on 05/09/2006 1:09:08 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: NapkinUser

If the American gov't is against us, who's on our side?

Seriously folks, I haven't gotten a real response on this, but are we doomed to fight against a growing monster of a federal gov't? Is the Republic in which we live slowly turning into a nanny state that Reagan warned us about? I don't see any hope for the future of this country past 2008. If Bush has failed us, what's next?


44 posted on 05/09/2006 1:09:53 PM PDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / Molwn Labe!)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

I thought they said on FOX The President was behind this????


45 posted on 05/09/2006 1:10:24 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: NapkinUser; sure_fine

This story will go nowhere. the MSM will bury it, if it ever even makes it to the fore.


46 posted on 05/09/2006 1:10:35 PM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage)
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To: rarestia

At some point this nation will split. The only bad thing will be the freepers won't get anything.


47 posted on 05/09/2006 1:11:55 PM PDT by one more state (I wish I could cash in on these illegals like the rest of them)
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To: yellowdoghunter

I don't know whether it's true or not. It's just too hard for me to believe it. If it IS true, it makes me identify with Dorothy in Oz--"I'm not in Oz anymore." If true, I don't recognize my country.


48 posted on 05/09/2006 1:12:06 PM PDT by twigs
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To: LachlanMinnesota
If the President saw this and was in support of enforcing our borders, he would immediately order the powers that be to knock it off.

Chances are that he is the power that be who ordered this in the first place.

49 posted on 05/09/2006 1:12:12 PM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: rarestia
who's on our side?

The Minutemen.

50 posted on 05/09/2006 1:12:26 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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