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The Caliphate: One nation, under Allah, with 1.5 billion Muslims
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 5/10/06 | James Brandon

Posted on 05/09/2006 3:09:33 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: LibWhacker
Two Islamist concepts we in the West need to understand.

Dar al-Islam House of Submission

Dar al-Islam (Arabic: literally house of submission) is a term widely used in the Islamic world to refer to those lands under Muslim government(s). In the conservative tradition of Islam the world is divided into two components: dar al-Islam, the house of submission or the house of God, and dar al-Harb, the house of war; the home of the infidels or unbelievers (Arabic: kufr). The terms are usually understood to refer, respectively, to those lands currently administered by Muslim governments and those administered by non-Muslim governments. The exact definitions of these territories can vary widely according to the viewer's concept of who is and is not a Muslim, and which governments are or are not Muslim in practice.

Dar al-Harb - House of terror

Dar al-Harb (Arabic: "house of war") is a term used in many Islamic countries to refer to those areas outside Muslim rule. In some conservative traditions of Islam the world is divided into two components: dar al-Islam, the "house of submission" or the "house of God", and dar al-Harb, the "house of war": the home of the infidels or unbelievers (Arabic: kufr). The terms are usually understood to refer, respectively, to those lands currently administered by Muslim governments and those administered by non-Muslim governments. The exact definitions of these territories can vary widely according to the viewer's concept of who is and is not a Muslim, and which governments are or are not Muslim in practice.

41 posted on 05/09/2006 7:26:05 PM PDT by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: Prime Choice

Bin-Ladin in 'Caliphate robes' delivering another Jihad fatwa against the whole civilized world. (Other than the colour, the outfit looks like his other used bedsheets)


42 posted on 05/09/2006 7:43:12 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: blinachka

Have you read the letter from the president of Iran?


43 posted on 05/09/2006 8:23:39 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: LibWhacker

If there are 1.5 billion muzzies, that means that there are 4.5 billion who refuse to thrust their buttocks Heavenward..


44 posted on 05/10/2006 12:31:30 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: sgtbono2002

Allah definitely is Satan. The fools worship a god of hatred and death.


45 posted on 05/10/2006 3:22:35 AM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
"But we want to free all people from being slaves of men and make them slaves of Allah . . . And if after all discussions and negotiations they still refuse, then the last resort will be a jihad to spread the spirit of Islam and the rule of Islam," he says, smiling."

What they want is not to make us slaves of Allah, but to make us slaves of themselves. At heart, the Muslim male is a slavemaster.

Exactly what I was thinking. They want to make us slaves of Allah, with them being the ones who get to tell you what Allah wants you to do. As the "Church Lady" might say, "How convenient"!

46 posted on 05/10/2006 3:25:52 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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To: LibWhacker

seems like these "moderates" are following Mein Kamf.

This only proves that Islam is a tribal political system cult not a religion. They are advocating a backwards move to a monarchy. These uneducated moles just use Califate instead of monarchy because reporters are to illiterate to know otherwaise.


47 posted on 05/10/2006 5:16:37 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Restorer
Not actually true. The original unified Muslim state under the first caliphs lasted till about 750, so well over 100 years.

You are correct. My thought would be that although the Shi'at Ali submitted it was under duress. There was an underlying disagreement about the succession to the leadership that was not resolved then and probably never will be. The Sunnis and Shia remain to this day in disagreement.

48 posted on 05/10/2006 6:08:59 AM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: LibWhacker
"And if after all discussions and negotiations they still refuse, then the last resort will be a jihad to spread the spirit of Islam and the rule of Islam," he says, smiling.

The Monitor saved the punchline for the last sentence. Gotta love that old MSM.

49 posted on 05/10/2006 6:14:47 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Salem
"Abu Abdullah, a senior member of Hizb ut-Tahrir, the Party of Liberation. "But we want to free all people from being slaves of men and make them slaves of Allah."

I'd rather be six feet under pushing up daisies than to ever, ever, ever be a "slave" of demon allah! allahu fubar!
50 posted on 05/10/2006 7:17:46 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Illegals - taking the rights Americans don't have - tell them No Tu Puede)
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To: LibWhacker

"In Europe they tell Muslims that they have to create parallel societies and that they should not follow European laws," says Ms. Baran.

Telling statement...from a moderate muzzie.


51 posted on 05/10/2006 9:49:52 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: LibWhacker

Ah, hitting the bong in Amman again...


52 posted on 05/10/2006 9:51:00 AM PDT by livius
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To: LibWhacker

hmm


53 posted on 05/10/2006 4:09:56 PM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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