Officials disclaim Bulletin 'tipping' report (Sara Carter's follow-up report)

1 posted on 05/10/2006 1:48:29 AM PDT by M. Thatcher

There seems to be a charge and denial.

Can't wait to see which is confirmed.

2 posted on 05/10/2006 1:52:02 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)

Isn't this the same story you just posted?

3 posted on 05/10/2006 1:52:40 AM PDT by CWOJackson

Yes, just wanted to clarify this was a follow-up, with much new material, to the much-discussed earlier article.

4 posted on 05/10/2006 3:20:38 AM PDT by M. Thatcher

THE LATEST FROM THE DAILY PAPER EL ECONOMISTA in MEXICO about serious, alleged US Border Control cooperation with the Mexican Government to expose operational details and locations of The Minutemen on the southern border:

09/05/2006 09:40 "EU avisa a México sobre ubicación de los Minutemen La Patrulla Fronteriza está informando al gobierno mexicano sobre la posición de las milicias civiles que vigilan la frontera para detener o atacar a inmigrantes ilegales, según un informe oficial. AP Notas relacionadas No hay notas relacionadas -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Los Angeles.- La Patrulla Fronteriza de Estados Unidos está informando al gobierno mexicano sobre la posición de las milicias civiles que vigilan la frontera para detener o atacar a inmigrantes ilegales, según un informe oficial. El vocero del servicio de aduanas y protección de fronteras, Mario Martínez, declaró al Inland Valley Daily Bulletin de Ontario que el objetivo del alerta es asegurar al gobierno mexicano que se respetan los derechos de los inmigrantes. El alerta afecta al Cuerpo de Defensa Civil Minuteman y a los Amigos de la Patrulla Fronteriza, entre otros grupos civiles. “No es ningún secreto dónde estarán los voluntarios Minuteman”, dijo Martínez el lunes. “Con esto queremos afirmar dos cosas fundamentales: que no toleraremos la anarquía de ningún tipo y que si un extranjero es enfrentado o detenido por un Minuteman, permitiremos que su gobierno entreviste a esa persona”. Miembros del Minuteman – que toman su nombre de una milicia campesina de la época colonial – dijeron que la política de la Patrulla Fronteriza les resta eficacia y podría poner en peligro sus vidas. “Ahora comprendemos por qué las autoridades mexicanas siempre saben dónde estamos”, dijo Chris Simcox, fundador de la organización. “Es inconcebible que una agencia de nuestro propio gobierno envíe información a otro país. Envían información a una nación caracterizada por la corrupción rampante, que podría llegar a los carteles criminales”. El Daily Bulletin dijo que no pudo comunicarse con autoridades del consulado mexicano en Washington el lunes. TJ Bonner, presidente del sindicato de agentes de la Patrulla Fronteriza, dijo que éstos se quejan desde hace mucho de la influencia indebida que ejerce el gobierno mexicano sobre la política coercitiva de Estados Unidos. “Esa no es una función legítima para una nación extranjera, cualquiera que sea”, dijo Bonner."

5 posted on 05/10/2006 3:35:17 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Declare the land all along our border w/Mexico as 'British territory'. THEN we'd finally protect it!)

To: AmericanInTokyo

6 posted on 05/10/2006 3:36:50 AM PDT by M. Thatcher

However, the Mexican report also contains specific information on civilian groups operating much farther inside the United States.

For example, the document notes that 50 Minuteman volunteers work in Chicago, focusing mainly on employers who hire illegal immigrants.

(This assumes of course that the Minutemen themselves are not providing this information via PR or website information.)

7 posted on 05/10/2006 3:38:42 AM PDT by Heatseeker (Never underestimate the left's tendency to underestimate us.)

You should be learning Spanish. </sarc>

8 posted on 05/10/2006 3:41:19 AM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)

You should be learning Spanish.

Unless FR is in Spanish, that's not happening.

9 posted on 05/10/2006 3:51:12 AM PDT by M. Thatcher

To: AmericanInTokyo

Partial translation (work is calling):

"US advises Mexico about location of the Minutemen.

"The Border Patrol is informing the mexican government about the position of the civilian militia which guards the border to detain or attack illegal immigrants, according to an official informant, AP News reports...The spokesman of the Customs and Immigration Service, Mario Martinez, declared to the Inland Valley Billetin of Ontario that the objective of the alert is to assure the mexican government that the rights of the immigrants are respected..."

10 posted on 05/10/2006 5:14:41 AM PDT by yatros from flatwater

I am late to this thread and haven't much time but here's a few more bits translated:

It is no secret where the Minutemen are, said Martinez on Monday. With this we wish to confirm two fundamental things: that we won't tolerate anarachy of any kind and that if a foreigner is confronted or detained by a Minuteman we will permit that his government interview him.

Then, a quote from Chris Simcox, founder of the MM

"Now we know that the Mexican government knows where we are --- it's inconceivable that an agency of our own government is sending information to another country. Sending information to a nation characterized by rampant corruption that could get to criminal cartels."

11 posted on 05/10/2006 5:39:10 AM PDT by squarebarb

To: M. Thatcher; Jim Robinson

Somebody played Free Republic like a cheap violin. And our single-issue knee-jerkers did EXACTLY what the guy who planted this story wanted.

12 posted on 05/10/2006 5:42:01 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)

To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

I tend to take all stories with a grain of salt until they have been fully researched. That's the trouble with instant info, sometimes it's misinfo.

13 posted on 05/10/2006 5:51:23 AM PDT by wolfcreek

To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Somebody played Free Republic like a cheap violin. And our single-issue knee-jerkers did EXACTLY what the guy who planted this story wanted.

Oh, wow, you mean people heatedly discussed a news report, and they had opposing views?

It's a conspiracy, I tell ya.

14 posted on 05/10/2006 6:02:05 AM PDT by M. Thatcher

To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Somebody played Free Republic like a cheap violin.

Yeah, right.

15 posted on 05/10/2006 6:53:42 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)

16 posted on 05/10/2006 7:04:51 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)

Thanks for posting and I expect more will be forthcoming the enxt few days, and obviously in the current climate as our Southern border continues to leak and Congre$$ fiddles.. it may be awhile before this latest brouhaha is put to rest to everyone's aatisfaction, if then. ;-)

17 posted on 05/10/2006 8:46:47 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)

Oh, wow, you mean people heatedly discussed a news report, and they had opposing views?

No, I mean someone got a bunch of people to post over-the-top things such as about how this guy doesn't agree with Timothy McVeigh BUT...

(When someone says "but," it means "please ignore what I just said.")

18 posted on 05/10/2006 8:48:16 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)

I tend to take all stories with a grain of salt until they have been fully researched. That's the trouble with instant info, sometimes it's misinfo.

Churchill once said that a lie is halfway around the world before the truth finishes putting its boots on.

We've just demonstrated that he was absolutely right.

19 posted on 05/10/2006 8:50:06 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)

To: M. Thatcher; BeHoldAPaleHorse

Oh, wow, you mean people heatedly discussed a news report, and they had opposing views?

There was no "discussion." It was more like a mass mouth-foaming. The 'single-issue knee-jerkers' jumped on this like flies on poop. As usual.

20 posted on 05/10/2006 8:59:57 AM PDT by r9etb

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