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BREAKING: Kentucky Governor Ernie Fletcher (R) indicted
WHAS 11 ^ | May 11, 2006 | Mark Hebert

Posted on 05/11/2006 1:43:19 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat

Edited on 05/11/2006 1:58:13 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Governor Fletcher indicted

04:43 PM EDT on Thursday, May 11, 2006
By K. ALISON BROTZGE / WHAS11.com

Governor Ernie Fletcher has been indicted by the Merit Hiring Grand Jury on charges of conspicacy to commit politcal discrimination. This is culmination of months of investigation by the Attorney General, Greg Stumbo and a blanket pardon from Governor Fletcher. It should be noted that the pardon does not include the governor.

Will we continue to bring you more information as it becomes available.

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From The Associated Press:

FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) -- Gov. Ernie Fletcher was indicted on misdemeanor charges Thursday by a special grand jury investigating state hiring practices.

Fletcher was charged with criminal conspiracy, official misconduct, and violating the prohibition against political discrimination.

The grand jury also handed down 14 sealed indictments.

(Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

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KEYWORDS: erniefletcher; fakehatecrimes; fletcher; govwatch; innocent; kentucky; kentuckystumbo; martyr; stumbo; witchhunt
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To: b4its2late

You would just Stumbo around and wind up falling down.


51 posted on 05/11/2006 2:07:31 PM PDT by rock58seg (Twin problems, a tin ear and a tin drum, establishes myths such as "ROP" and "guest worker".)
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To: Republican Wildcat
One class A misdemeanor and two class C is what I'm hearing. If you ask me, Fletcher asked for this.
52 posted on 05/11/2006 2:11:30 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger ("You're not going crazy! You're going sane in a crazy world!" - The Tick)
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To: Moose4

No - John Smallberries.


53 posted on 05/11/2006 2:11:48 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Smells like a Tom DeLay hit job to me.


54 posted on 05/11/2006 2:13:38 PM PDT by oxcart (Journalism (Sic))
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To: MPJackal
This just get so tiring: the Republicans show up for a boxing match while the Democrats show up for a knife fight.
The Republicans are terrified of being depicted in the MSM as insensitive mud slingers who embrace dirty tactics.
Well, wake the H*ll up!
The MSM is a dying form of information and your base is sick and tired of your ' make nice ' tactics!
55 posted on 05/11/2006 2:14:26 PM PDT by warsaw44 (BUILD THE WALL)
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To: PghBaldy
Heck, Rat Governor Richardson here in NM does that all the time. He's taken it to such an art and is so blatant about it a local TV station has had no trouble producing a expose on the issue. But it will be ignored because 1) its business as usual for Dims, and 2) he's a Dim and they get special treatment and privileges.

Larry Barker Report: Gov creates over 60 new jobs for friends, allies (NM Richardson, must see!!) ^

56 posted on 05/11/2006 2:14:28 PM PDT by CedarDave (Sleeper trolls are like cicadas - emerge in the heat and contribute nothing but loud annoying noise)
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To: PghBaldy

Do I read that to mean that in Kentucky it is illegal for a Governor to say... hire people in his own office that support his administration?

What sort of silly madness is this?


57 posted on 05/11/2006 2:16:57 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Bookmark...


58 posted on 05/11/2006 2:21:01 PM PDT by DocRock
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To: Liberty Valance
Transportation Cabinet official Sam Beverage

and they keep coming...lol

Reminds me of "Alien Nation". Bill Shakespeare, Carrie Onbag, Marty Gras, Sam Francisco...

59 posted on 05/11/2006 2:22:45 PM PDT by American Quilter
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To: kjo
Many in the GOP will be out of a job in November, they forgot how to fight back

I often wonder if they relied too much on the WOT to help get them elected that after 5 years they forgot how to run and campaign on any other issues.

and they forgot their base

You can say that again

Looks like at least the House will turn over to the Dems

I'm afraid you may be right.

which means impeachment hearings for Bush.

C'mon, look at how weak the GOP is even as a majority. I would not be surprised if Bush were impeached even with the democrats as a minority. With 'republicans' like Specter, who needs democrats? And the band played on.

60 posted on 05/11/2006 2:29:57 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: Republican Wildcat

I really don't understand this. I never heard of political discrimination so hopefully later their will be more news on this. I can't believe another Republican is in trouble. I actually hope that due to my ignorance that I just don't know what the heck this is and maybe this is not as bad as it seems to be.


61 posted on 05/11/2006 2:33:54 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Thanatos
Fletcher pardoned all administration officials except himself.

Gov. Fletcher has been waiting for this showdown, mano a mano.
62 posted on 05/11/2006 2:34:41 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: CedarDave; PghBaldy
Well, it appears that the link doesn't work today though it was fine earlier this week. The crux of the story was that being a FOB guaranteed a well paying state job, even when a need didn't exist, and there was no position available. His rewarding of 60* friends into high-paying (for NM) jobs that didn't exist or were filled by a FOB at a salary two to three times authorized you think would logically be big news. But not here where the MSM reporters are chummy with bill and some actually went campaigning for him first time around. Anyway, check back later and the link may be working. (*BTW, that's in addition to the 450+ jobs he's authorized to fill with FOBs)
63 posted on 05/11/2006 2:34:44 PM PDT by CedarDave (Sleeper trolls are like cicadas - emerge in the heat and contribute nothing but loud annoying noise)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Can someone explain this in layman's terms??


64 posted on 05/11/2006 2:36:40 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: pollywog
No need to explain this in layman's terms, or even legal terms.

Remember, it's not the evidence, it's the seriousness of the charge.

So don't worry your pretty head, just sit back and wait for the public hanging in the Kentucky Derby stadium infield.

Leni

65 posted on 05/11/2006 2:41:18 PM PDT by MinuteGal ("FReeps Ahoy 4" will be sailing May 13th! We'll have After-Cruise Pix to Post. Stay Tuned !)
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To: kjo
Many in the GOP will be out of a job in November, they forgot how to fight back; and they forgot their base.

And that's the name of that tune!

It's a two-pronged self-inflicted pitchfork to the foot. When it comes to political combat, the Dems go for it like streetfighters. They fight to win. They fight like rabid dogs. They do not hold back, they do not pull their punches, and the only "rule" they observe is "will this help me win, or not?"

Our boys, on the other hand, steeped in the culture of the countryclub, step into the ring with Robert's Rules of Order under one arm, and The Marquis of Queensbury Rules under the other. And they leave on a gurney, mumbling something about "get the number of that truck!"

The other prong of the pitchfork is even bloodier. They treat their base like a classical abused wife, while going "Hey, babe!" to every Democrat constituency they encounter. The basic reality eludes them: The Democrat factions will gladly accept the handouts proffered -- and then vote Democrat.

The whole scene is mind-boggling. Alienating their own voters, while paying off the other party's hardcore constituents. Beyond madness.

Anyone who hasn't read Peggy Noonan's column today... should!

66 posted on 05/11/2006 2:42:10 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: napscoordinator
Just remember a good prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich. Fletcher has known for a long time he would be indicted. It's a ridiculous witch hunt. Some underlings did get rids of some entrenched Democrats in some state agencies, mostly the transportation department. KY state government has been the Democratic employment agency for decades. Fletcher is the first GOP governor since 1971, and was only elected because the previous Gov had a sex scandal.

For some reason Kentuckians are rock ribbed Republicans when voting for President, Senator, and Congress, but they like Democrat governors. And Republicans have run some pretty lame candidates in the past. Fletcher was the best one in years. I refuse to believe he had anything to do with any organized effort to fire state employees just because they were Democrats. He might have had some idiot underlings that did it in a hamhanded way and left a paper trail. The problem is that 99% of state employees are Democrats, so if you fire any serious number of them you are going to open yourself up to charges of political discrimination. The Democrat-controlled legislature wrote that goofy political discrimination law just so they could do this is a Republican ever won the governorship again.

67 posted on 05/11/2006 2:42:41 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Control the borders. Control the spending. Confirm the judges. Win the War. -- Hugh Hewitt)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Oh yeah, and Grady Stumbo is a scumbag. One of the stunts he pulled was having TV stations miraculously show up with cameras while he staged "raids" on the offices of Fletcher's aides. In one of them people were shown carrying out dozens of "boxes of documents." All the boxes were empty and were planted by Stumbo. The gullible Kentucky media bought it hook, line, and sinker.


68 posted on 05/11/2006 2:45:59 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Control the borders. Control the spending. Confirm the judges. Win the War. -- Hugh Hewitt)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Thank you very much for the explanation. I feel so sorry for elected officials sometimes because the dems and media are always finding some baloney to hang a person on even if it is not even a crime or the person did not even do it or a subordinate was involved and makes it looks like the Republican was involved. It is the same with DeLay he is getting hung to dry because of some perception and I know sometimes perception is often reality but it does not seem to be in these cases. I sometime feel like our Republicans need hazardous duty pay. lol.
69 posted on 05/11/2006 2:47:35 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Frank_Discussion
No - John Smallberries.

Laugh-a while you can, mohnkeeboy!

70 posted on 05/11/2006 2:48:42 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Ramius

I don't know about the definitions, and I'm not a lawyer. They were just in the top 3 search results on the state's page...


71 posted on 05/11/2006 2:49:24 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: warsaw44

Ping to #66


72 posted on 05/11/2006 2:50:34 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Millicent_Hornswaggle
You are correct that other states talk about political battles. In Kentucky it is meant literally not figuratively. My particular favorite is the saga of the Hawes family of Breathitt County.
73 posted on 05/11/2006 2:50:38 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: Republican Wildcat
FWIW....

The Kentucky Grand Ole Docket

74 posted on 05/11/2006 2:53:15 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Ramius
Do I read that to mean that in Kentucky it is illegal for a Governor to say... hire people in his own office that support his administration?

What sort of silly madness is this?

It's simple -- Democrats don't like it when Republicans try to blur the distinction between the two parties.

Republicans are supposed to be the ones who employ the Patronage System within the Party, i.e., ensure that only good 'ol boys get to make it to/through the primaries.

Democrats, on the other hand, are not supposed to do that. Their role is to employ the Patronage System after they get into office, using it to populate the various offices with like-minded effendi.

75 posted on 05/11/2006 2:54:48 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: dead
His name is “Taco Stein.”

Is a Taco Stein a big German mug that you drink your taco from? That reminds me of "Cup o Pizza". The new Taco Stein guy put the old Taco Stein guy out of business.....

76 posted on 05/11/2006 2:55:34 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Freerepublic - The website where "Freepers" is not in the spell checker dictionary...)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Maybe George Clooney's dad will run for Kentucky governor next time.


77 posted on 05/11/2006 2:55:44 PM PDT by pnz1
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To: CedarDave

Here is the link to the video of L Barker's report: http://www.krqe.com/video/expandedbiglocal.asp?RECORD_KEY[VideoBigLocal]=ID&ID%5BVideoBigLocal%5D=3793 I won't watch it as I'm on dialup... I have heard a bit about the story though.


78 posted on 05/11/2006 2:57:52 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: Republican Wildcat

Another one bites the dust. I wonder how many more Republicans will go down before the Dems take over.


79 posted on 05/11/2006 2:58:10 PM PDT by R_Kangel ("He who lives in glass houses should never invite "He who is without sin" into his house!!!!")
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To: dead
Sounds a bit like "not being a Democrat, with intent."

More than a bit like that. Sheesh! What will they criminalize next.

80 posted on 05/11/2006 2:58:52 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Republican Wildcat; All

Frankfort, KY (AP) - Governor Ernie Fletcher has been indicted on misdemeanor charges today by a special grand jury investigating state hiring practices.

Fletcher is charged with criminal conspiracy, official misconduct, and violating the prohibition against political discrimination.

The grand jury also handed down 14 sealed indictments.

A Fletcher spokesman says the governor's office would release a statement later.

So far, 13 current and former administration officials and associates have been indicted on various misdemeanor charges stemming from the probe.

Fletcher was scheduled to appear at King's Daughters Heart and Vascular Center in Ashland for an event at 5 p.m. EDT today.


81 posted on 05/11/2006 3:06:52 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("Please run your Biochip across the scanner " Warning ! Warning ! Happiness detected Detain at Once)
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To: Republican Wildcat

We know a grand jury will indict anything with very little proof, but the nature of the charge itself seems a peculiar law.


82 posted on 05/11/2006 3:09:20 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Wait until they start indicting for so called "hate" crimes!
83 posted on 05/11/2006 3:09:33 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum (If you wish for peace, prepare for war.))
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To: MPJackal
The habit we are getting into of criminalizing political activity (this, 'hate crimes', 'campaign finance reform,' voter fraud, etc.) will culminate in civil war.

What if the Dems won a national election, and the red states refused to obey?

84 posted on 05/11/2006 3:09:36 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: Republican Wildcat

And Hillary still walks free.


85 posted on 05/11/2006 3:10:01 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Republican Wildcat

I guess when you fail to get elected you go to your former court appointed judges to get approval for a "formal arrest"....

Time to tell the judge that he/she is not above the law and arrest the judge for abuse of power, throw the person in jail with Bubba or Mary and go on about business.


86 posted on 05/11/2006 3:10:23 PM PDT by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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To: Republican Wildcat

People with discriminating tastes vote Republican.


87 posted on 05/11/2006 3:13:06 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: Millicent_Hornswaggle
Politics in Ky is ugly. It's almost like being a king, my daddy used to say.

Your daddy was right. In eastern KY during the depression era the politicians and coal company officials were almost the only people there who managed to get by alright. For instance, if a man or woman could win a race for the local school board many of his or her family members could get jobs doing something at or around the school. The same thing applied to some degree to other political offices and government facilities, but the school positions were particularly useful for that purpose. With so many of the mines closed and no other industry in the region it was a matter of survival of the cleverest and most ruthless.

My wife's family was involved in politics in eastern KY during that time. One of her uncles served a short sentence for killing a rival politician on election day at the polling place. He happened to be a member of the "right" party faction at the time, so he got off with practically a slap on the wrist. The family had managed to get a sister elected to the school board at the last election, and the other candidate was of course a threat to their meal ticket. The killing was in self defense according to the family, but I think there was more to it than that since the other man wasn't armed.

I haven't visited down there since the last family funeral in the 1980s, but I understand that the old ways are fading away fast in those mountains now and prosperity has arrived at last. That's kinda sad in a way I guess, that was a unique part of America at one time and according to my wife not a bad place to grow up in spite of all it's many problems. But as "they" say, you can't stop progress. At least you can't if you count Walmart Super Centers, quarter-mile long strip malls, and fast food joints on every corner as progress.

88 posted on 05/11/2006 3:13:30 PM PDT by epow
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To: kjo
The symbol of the Congressional Republicans should be that crybaby from Ohio, the one that cried during John Bolton's hearings.


Him and that useless Specter.

The Dems are like that bully in A Christmas Story, they see Republican tears and go...cry, baby, cry, cry.
89 posted on 05/11/2006 3:25:47 PM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: Republican Wildcat

Do we have another display of prosecutorial malfeasance on display by a Rat?


90 posted on 05/11/2006 3:36:55 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: Izzy Dunne

I think it's a "Weakest Link" type question.


91 posted on 05/11/2006 3:49:00 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Republican Wildcat
"charges of conspicacy to commit politcal discrimination"

What in God's name is that supposed to mean?!?

92 posted on 05/11/2006 3:52:16 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: Republican Wildcat
Fletcher was charged with criminal conspiracy, official misconduct, and violating the prohibition against political discrimination.

What the.....?

Republicans HAVE to hire democrat spys now? Who is this judge, anyway?

Do democrats really have to dig this hard to find a "guilty" Republican? They actually have to charge them for not hiring democrats because that's all they can find? How gay is that? I suppose Kennedy, Hillary, and Kerry hire hard core Republican Conservatives to work for them all the time (NOT!)

OK Kentucky FReepers. Start checking to MAKE SURE democrats are hiring Conservative Republicans. I'll bet you won't find even one democrat doing it!

93 posted on 05/11/2006 3:55:57 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: Republican Wildcat

Gregory D. Stumbo is Attorney General of the Commonwealth of Kentucky (2003 – present). He previously served in the Kentucky House of Representatives for twelve terms. Stumbo was Kentucky's longest-serving House Majority Floor Leade(1980 – 2003) and as Majority Leader in the House (1985 – 2003). Stumbo is a member of the Democratic party.


94 posted on 05/11/2006 3:58:16 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: Republican Wildcat

One minute you are putting a flower blanket on a racehorse, next minute you are putting a blanket on your jail cell bunk. Maybe too much bourbon.


95 posted on 05/11/2006 4:02:21 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: saganite
Stumbo is a member of the Democratic party.

There. Now we have the whole story.
The governor would not cave to the democrat party, so the dictators in black were sent out to do him in.

96 posted on 05/11/2006 4:06:20 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: KoRn
What in God's name is that supposed to mean?!?

A Republican governor did not hire democrat spies.
The democrat judge indicted him for political discrimination.
I kid you not.

97 posted on 05/11/2006 4:10:51 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: concerned about politics

Wow!


98 posted on 05/11/2006 4:11:38 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: AaronThompson; aCDNinUSA; AFMobster; alicewonders; all_american1; Amn. Seaman; anoldafvet; ...
BLUEGRASS PING
99 posted on 05/11/2006 4:17:21 PM PDT by RonPaulLives (Never trust anything ending in "u." For example, "DU," "EU," "I love you")
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To: concerned about politics
"The democrat judge indicted him for political discrimination."

As usual, the fanatics on the Left can't abide by the will of the people of Kentucky.

Impeach the bastard. Now.

100 posted on 05/11/2006 4:20:29 PM PDT by Reactionary (The Barking of the Native Moonbat is the Sound of Moral Nitwittery)
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