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Gibson inspired by 'fear-mongering' Bush (Mel Gibson)
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Posted on 05/12/2006 8:55:00 AM PDT by doesnt suffer fools gladly

Film star and director Mel Gibson has launched a scathing attack on US President George W Bush, comparing his leadership to the barbaric rulers of the Mayan civilisation in his new film Apocalypto.

The epic, due for release later this year, captures the decline of the Maya kingdom and the slaughter of thousands of inhabitants as human sacrifices in a bid to save the nation from collapsing.

Gibson reveals he used present day American politics as an inspiration, claiming the government callously plays on the nation's insecurities to maintain power.

He tells British film magazine Hotdog, "The fear-mongering we depict in the film reminds me of President Bush and his guys".


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To: blau993
Whispers...."Russell Crowe...it was Russell Crowe..."
51 posted on 05/12/2006 9:10:44 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Obadiah

Exactly. His movies put me off for this reason.


52 posted on 05/12/2006 9:11:00 AM PDT by blueminnesota
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To: Obadiah

Revenge and martyrdom has been a constant thematic interest of his. Even Hamlet...


53 posted on 05/12/2006 9:11:06 AM PDT by Borges
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To: dinoparty
e.g. the scene that implied that Jesus the carpenter invented the table-chair combo

Nonsense. He said something about it being the Roman style.

54 posted on 05/12/2006 9:11:08 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Yeah, that's what I thought. It did show the resurrection - at least in some form.


55 posted on 05/12/2006 9:11:09 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
Gibson courted conservatives when The Passion came out. Hollyweird just about snubbed him at the Oscars.

Now, he needs the libs, so hey, bash Bush! That always works.

Is he even American?

56 posted on 05/12/2006 9:11:10 AM PDT by doesnt suffer fools gladly (Liberals lie)
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To: cripplecreek

"I agree with both of them on some issues and disagree with both of them on others."

I'm sorry, but you're not allowed to have sane, rational, well thought out opinions on political blogs.

I'm in the middle sometimes too. I hope I'm logical or rational some of the time if not most of the time.

When did all these actors suddenly become political geniuses?


58 posted on 05/12/2006 9:11:35 AM PDT by garyhope
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

Isn't "Apocaloco" entirely is some Mayan dialect? That should be a big hit.


59 posted on 05/12/2006 9:11:44 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: blueminnesota
Gibson is insane, pure and simple.

Matt Stone and Trey Parker said that last year, but did anybody listen?

60 posted on 05/12/2006 9:11:45 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Natural Selection is the Free Market : Intelligent Design is the Centrally Planned Economy)
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To: nosofar

"...bad move..."

Err....*movie*


61 posted on 05/12/2006 9:11:59 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

He should have consulted with Tom Cruise before shooting off his mouth.


62 posted on 05/12/2006 9:12:07 AM PDT by Rumple4
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To: mlc9852
the fact that it left out the resurrection really bothered me.

The resurrection scenes at the end of the movie were the most powerful part of the movie.

You ought to watch it again.

63 posted on 05/12/2006 9:12:13 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Obadiah

I never thought about it that way but you are right.


64 posted on 05/12/2006 9:12:16 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Echo Talon
Anything to sell tickets...

It is cheap advertising, that is for sure.
65 posted on 05/12/2006 9:12:20 AM PDT by P-40
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To: The South Texan
This surprises me some but not totally. Gibson is a very Traditional Catholic. In Traditional I mean Latin mass only and associates with folks that think Vatican II was a tool of the devil. In fact I think in reality that Gibson belongs to one of these schismatics churches that are in opposition to Vatican II etc. Whats interesting is that many in that group are conservative politically in a Pat Buchanan sense. I really don't know why that group tends to go that way or at least have many of that ilk in those churches. I suspect this is where Mel is coming from.
66 posted on 05/12/2006 9:12:34 AM PDT by catholicfreeper
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To: nosofar

It is amusing who all the Gibson fans suddenly turn on him when he dares to criticize our sainted president.


67 posted on 05/12/2006 9:12:50 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: mnehrling

"Fearmongering".

He's being sarcastic, right?

Even some Dems have let slip that the Administration is downplaying the dangers we face.


68 posted on 05/12/2006 9:12:56 AM PDT by Stashiu (RVN, 1969-70)
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To: Thrusher

"Mad Max 4: Thunder Beyond the Retirement Home."


69 posted on 05/12/2006 9:13:24 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: karnage
Interesting, brilliantly talented man.

Talented in what way? Acting?

70 posted on 05/12/2006 9:13:25 AM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: Rum Tum Tugger

I don't think I could watch it again and apparently I really did fall asleep before the end because I don't remember much of the movie except the beatings.


71 posted on 05/12/2006 9:13:35 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

He seems to be doing this deliberately. An earlier interview on the movie set also showed symptoms of wanting to please the Hollywood Left, although not quite as grotesquely as this.

Well, I must say I think he's being very stupid. He will find it easier to offend his many conservative admirers than to mend relations with the liberals, who frankly will never forgive him. His career is likely to deteriorate from here, I'm afraid.

The story of conservatives who betray their beliefs and turn left is generally not a happy one. Ask that traitor from The American Spectator.

Too bad. Well, I'll still consider seeing the movie after I've seen a few reviews of it by people I trust. Unfortunately not many of those are still in the movie reviewing business, especially since Terry Teachout quit writing for Crisis Magazine.


72 posted on 05/12/2006 9:13:46 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: em2vn

No. He said something to the effect that "you can sit in this and eat from here", implying that it was his creation, his improvement over the reclined dining of the day.


73 posted on 05/12/2006 9:13:56 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: xrp
But of course, on FR, anyone who isn't a Bushbot is automatically a communist jihadi.

Insisting that Bush doesn't actually commit human sacrifices is far from being a Bushbot. There's legitimate criticism (spending too much, illegal immigration policies...) then there's insane criticism. That's what this is.

74 posted on 05/12/2006 9:14:21 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
About the only thing Gibson ever said or did that was worthwhile was making "The Passion of the Christ." Everything before or since was pretty mindless and superficial.

And the trend continues.

75 posted on 05/12/2006 9:14:37 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Lord Washbourne
"What the past 5 years have really shown is that government officers at all levels are deathly afraid of we the people."

You're too funny.

I suppose that's why Bush wants to ram ILLEGAL ALIENS down our throats ... it must be because GWB is afraid of us?

LOL!!!

Government is not afraid of us. They have us right were they want us. It is terrorists that they don't have control of.

In case you have forgotten over the past five years but 9/11 caused nearly 3,000 deaths. This was on OUR soil. We had more death there than PEARL HARBOR. Try NOT to forget THAT.

77 posted on 05/12/2006 9:14:51 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: P-40
Da Vinci Code is getting all the free adversing now Mel wants some of that action. LOL
78 posted on 05/12/2006 9:14:57 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: The South Texan
If I could return my copy of the Passion of the Christ to get my money back, I would.

Sell it.

Trash it.

Use it as a frisbee or coaster.

79 posted on 05/12/2006 9:15:14 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
Wrong, wrong, wrong.

This reminds me of Anne Coulter's jumping-the-shark moment with regards to her blind acceptance of absurd ID/Creationism.

80 posted on 05/12/2006 9:15:24 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Lord Washbourne
"...Sure the terrorist threat is real, but people are much, much, much more likely to be harmed or killed by easily preventable things we mostly ignore, like automobile accidents or smoking..."

Sure. And we are much more likely to die of old age. I am not being rhetorical here...but...do you see a difference between being killed in an automobile accident and being killed by someone with a car bomb?

81 posted on 05/12/2006 9:15:40 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Oztrich Boy

But they say that about everyone.


83 posted on 05/12/2006 9:15:45 AM PDT by blueminnesota
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To: sinkspur

Still ... he struck me as being a tad rational and conservative ... geesh!


84 posted on 05/12/2006 9:16:04 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: nmh

I think Braveheart and Passion are both brilliant movies. As a film director myself, I know how difficult it is to make a good movie. Gibson is incredibly talented. That doesn't mean I share his politics - whatever they may be. Although he is very passionately pro-life, and I agree with him 100% on that.


85 posted on 05/12/2006 9:16:05 AM PDT by karnage
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To: subterfuge

He's an excellent actor, but I think even a better director. Both Braveheart and Passion I think are very great movies.


86 posted on 05/12/2006 9:16:59 AM PDT by karnage
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To: sinkspur
Yes. Gibson's true personality is very close to the character he plays in the Lethal Weapon movies. That's why they were so successful.

I liked Gibson in his early Australian films. After he went "mainstream", it did seem that he only played nutty characters. It got to a point where I could barely stand to watch him. Besides the Lethal Weapon films, he was nutty as Fletcher Christian in The Bounty. He was a nuttier than usual Hamlet as well.

I think it was Braveheart that brought back some respect for him, though he was a tad nutty in that. Whether his nuttiness on film is a reflection of his own personality, or merely the result of his not having a very large bag of actor tricks from which to draw, I do not know.

His original idea to film The Passion in dead languages WITHOUT subtitles was nutty, too, IMO.

I think his remarks are more "Gibson-weirdness" than Hollyweirdness.

87 posted on 05/12/2006 9:17:47 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (I hereby re-christen the Republican Party as "The Flaccid Party")
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To: cripplecreek
I'm not a lock stepper and really don't care what Gibson or the president say. I agree with both of them on some issues and disagree with both of them on others.

Doesn't take long for the flock to turn and start pecking someone's eyes out, does it? I plan to hold on to all my Mel movies--which is quite a collection--go see "Apocalypto" and ignore the fumings by the press and FReepers as well. Besides, how does anyone know what Gibson actually said? Were they in the room?

88 posted on 05/12/2006 9:17:56 AM PDT by Scothia ( When something important is going on, silence is a lie.)
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To: karnage

I see your point.

He strikes me as being very confused. Against abortion is thumbs UP with me too however his politics leans VERY LEFT with this announcement.


89 posted on 05/12/2006 9:17:59 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: marron

Don't worry, it'll be a huge hit with the Aztlan crowd........


90 posted on 05/12/2006 9:19:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (In warfare there are no constant conditions. --- The Art of War by SunTzu)
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

One less movie to go watch.

Ho hum.


91 posted on 05/12/2006 9:19:19 AM PDT by roaddog727 (eludium PU36 explosive space modulator)
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To: blueminnesota

More and more I see Gibson as a heterosexual Tom Cruise.


92 posted on 05/12/2006 9:19:24 AM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: Scothia

I'm guilty of the blaspheme of not seeing "The Passion" but I read the book and know how it ends.


93 posted on 05/12/2006 9:19:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Obadiah
For sometime now I have begun to see the Passion of the Christ as a movie made from the context of Mel Gibson's near prurient interest in matters related to blood and brutality.

Perhaps, but it was probably the closest thing to what actually occurred during the last day of Jesus' earthly life than any movie before it. Scourging and crucifiction are bloody and brutal.

94 posted on 05/12/2006 9:19:42 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
Hey Mel, have you and Russell Crowe been bashing each other's heads in with telephones?

Why does every day feel like we are only two weeks before a Presidential election. Bush won... get the #$%^ over it already. Everyone complains about Bush yet ignores the "real" threats that exists in this world.

95 posted on 05/12/2006 9:19:54 AM PDT by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: karnage

I agree. If it's a good movie I'll see it no matter what his politics are. If it's a bad movie I won't see it. Sean Penn makes some very good movies. According to some I shouldn't see them because he's liberal. So what? I watch movies for entertainment - not to make a statement.


96 posted on 05/12/2006 9:19:58 AM PDT by loreldan (Without coffee I am nothing.)
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

I call BS. Where's the rest of the interview, it's not at the link?


97 posted on 05/12/2006 9:20:39 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: Rumple4
He should have consulted with Tom Cruise before shooting off his mouth.

I'll buy that. I have to kick myself for reading these articles on movie stars. I would so much prefer not to know their personal views.

98 posted on 05/12/2006 9:20:44 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

Hey, the loon who brought y'all the "Passion" movie. Mel has run off the rails here but it sounds like a movie worth going to the theater for (haven't been to one for months)


99 posted on 05/12/2006 9:21:23 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

This is nothing. There is some truth in the idea that all politicians use fear-mongering -- or bribery.


100 posted on 05/12/2006 9:21:31 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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