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To: ohioWfan
Here you go:

Step One: End all medical services except for emergency lifesaving care for anyone not a legal US resident unless they can pay for it in cash or are insured.

Step Two: Increase and enforce fines of $5,000.00 per each illegal employee per each day of illegal employment for a first offense. A second offense doubles the fines and adds a five year prison sentence.

Step Three: Institute an immediate 100% tariff on any money transfers between the US and Mexico from currency exchanges and the like.

Step Four: Increase the penalty for trafficing in humans to 25 years in federal prison for the first offense. A second offense carries a life sentence without the possibility of parole.

Step Five: Require that employers with more than 5 employees verify that documents presented to satisfy I-9 requirements are genuine through the SS Administration.

Institute those 5 'reforms' and we won't need to build a wall or deploy the Guard on the border. Well we may need the Guard to keep order as 11 + million illegals self deport.

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21 posted on 05/12/2006 5:55:39 PM PDT by Lurker (Anyone who doesn't demand an immediate end to illegal immigration is aiding the flesh trade.)
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To: Lurker

I like the idea of tariffs on money transfers...


59 posted on 05/12/2006 6:05:07 PM PDT by 13Sisters76
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To: Lurker
Step One: End all medical services ,b>except for emergency lifesaving care for anyone not a legal US resident unless they can pay for it in cash or are insured.

Down here in San Diego, the Mexican radio stations advise the illegals that if they can't afford to pay for treatment for some non emergency like the flu then simply call 9-11. An ambulence is dispatched and they transport to the nearest hospital. Once called for service, the paramedics HAVE to treat. None of these services is paid for their service. Our hospitals are closing because of treating for "emergencies" only. The amublence services either go under and/or are not available for real emergencies for our own citizens.

67 posted on 05/12/2006 6:07:10 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
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To: Lurker
Going to address Step One.....

Is there any way the medical services, freebee healthcare at the expense of the rest of us can be ended?

Is there something practical WE can do, or say?

(Don't know...........just asking).

My husband is in hospital administration. I know how serious a problem this is.

74 posted on 05/12/2006 6:09:17 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: Lurker
Let's add another item to your list.

Currently the Social Security Adm. has some 9 million numbers that don't match up to names... (as yet can't fidn the real number, wonder why?) so they have the names of ALL of these employers and the alias of the SSN users. Let all of those Homeland Security boys and girls start paying visits ASAP

107 posted on 05/12/2006 6:18:19 PM PDT by Covenantor
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To: Lurker
I already commented on Step One (trying to keep up with everyone here).

I think your conclusion is right, and the other steps look valid to me at first glance.

Now how do WE help implement them in the real world?

151 posted on 05/12/2006 6:33:33 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: smackcakes

Absolutely.

Amnesty will be a disaster.

I think you have hit upon a great balance.


172 posted on 05/12/2006 6:40:32 PM PDT by smackcakes
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To: Lurker
Lurker, I like every one of your steps. I would add that we deduct every expense incurred for caring for or prosecuting illegals from any financial aid we contribute to Mexico.
176 posted on 05/12/2006 6:41:45 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Lurker

Step six: Require that illegal aliens can either find their way back home or be drafted into the military for a three year period to relieve the troops in Iraq who would be redeployed to protect our borders. At the end of the three year period, citizenship would be granted.........


233 posted on 05/12/2006 7:11:19 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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To: Lurker
step 6 do not give automatic citizenship to babies Born off illegal immigrants
251 posted on 05/12/2006 7:17:07 PM PDT by unseen
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To: Lurker
Step One: End all medical services except for emergency lifesaving care for anyone not a legal US resident unless they can pay for it in cash or are insured.

That was part of our AZ Prop 200 voted into law in 2004 and 9th Circuit ruled it's legal, yet to be implemented by Janet Napolitano.

I will say this is one of the issues of the 1986 law that should be revisited, along with the Social Security Administration inadequacies, because right now Doctors cannot refuse to provide service and cannot inquire if a patient is legal or illegal -- the Hippocratic oath precludes the first and the law takes care of the second. Right now Medicaid (you and I) pays for a whole lot of medical care for illegal immigrants.

299 posted on 05/12/2006 7:33:12 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Lurker

Employer sanctions like fines and jail require enforcement by the President and the Department of Justice. That didn't happen under Clinton, it is not happening under Bush and it won't happen under Hillary. It won't happen unless Tancredo is President. Why not let the private sector do it? Here is my proposal: http://www.allanfavish.com/insurance_illegals.htm


389 posted on 05/12/2006 8:10:11 PM PDT by AJFavish
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To: Lurker
There is no doubt , Lurker, that your step three would have among other proposals a significant impact.

Step Three: Institute an immediate 100% tariff on any money transfers between the US and Mexico from currency exchanges and the like.

If the money can not leave the nation a large consensus of illegal foreign nationals will find their efforts here fruitless.

If we implemented a guest worker program it would have to be done in a manner that the guest workers' documentation was nearly impossible to forge and insures all necessary background checks.

But even at that I can support at best a very limited guest worker program with significant restrictions on the number of guest workers allowed.

I still think we need to boost the strength of the border patrol. Even to the point of National Guard assistance.

We need to ENFORCE the laws currently on the books. And I mean enforce them.

We need to continue a vigilant program of weeding out employers that hire illegal foreign nationals.

Plus as posters have already pointed out. There must be an elimination of tax dollars going to assistance of illegal foreign nationals with a very small exception of the most dire of cases involving life and death.

To implement our views. Our voices must resound by means of communication with our elected leaders. And if we want changes to those elected leaders that are unconcerned or unwilling to make the hard changes, we need to be more aggressive in primary elections to ensure the election of candidates that will.

Overall we must maintain solid border protection against those foreign nationals that are entering the nation not for economic reasons but to do this country harm.

704 posted on 05/13/2006 7:34:33 AM PDT by A message
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To: Lurker

Good list.


750 posted on 05/13/2006 8:20:40 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Lurker

If we can defeat al'queada why can't we defeat the illegal invaders? Where the is the will there is a way. ALL must be roundd up and deported, by force if needed. NO amnesty No way.


758 posted on 05/13/2006 8:23:57 AM PDT by Squat (Deport the illegals now! Turn Home Depot's into the prisons to hold the illegals!.)
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To: Lurker
Great ideas!

Send Your Immigration Views To Congress HERE>

1,019 posted on 05/14/2006 3:10:41 AM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: Lurker

Yes-That would do it....and I bet 65% of people would be in favor of it.


1,292 posted on 05/15/2006 12:43:09 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Allen/Pawlenty in 08-play the map.)
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To: Lurker

"Step One: End all medical services except for emergency lifesaving care for anyone not a legal US resident unless they can pay for it in cash or are insured."

I completely agree.

"Step Two: Increase and enforce fines of $5,000.00 per each illegal employee per each day of illegal employment for a first offense. A second offense doubles the fines and adds a five year prison sentence."

Too excessive unless it is written such that it is only enforceable after the bill becomes law, so businesses get a fair warning. Otherwise too many businesses will go out of business, and not provide jobs that we US citizens need.

"Step Three: Institute an immediate 100% tariff on any money transfers between the US and Mexico from currency exchanges and the like."

I will think on this.

"Step Four: Increase the penalty for trafficing in humans to 25 years in federal prison for the first offense. A second offense carries a life sentence without the possibility of parole."

Another good idea.

"Step Five: Require that employers with more than 5 employees verify that documents presented to satisfy I-9 requirements are genuine through the SS Administration."

I will think about this one also.


1,337 posted on 05/15/2006 11:07:06 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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