[Coldwater Creek]

It is all in the eyes if the beholder. I thought that it was a great speech.

You can build walls that will reach the heavens, but you will not keep these people out if they want to come.

[azhenfud]

"You can build walls that will reach the heavens, but you will not keep these people out if they want to come."

The Israeli fence debunks that myth.

[LegendHasIt]

President Bush’s speech last night contained no surprises for me. It was pretty well delivered; The right tone; It SOUNDED sincere and reasonable… But in the final analysis it was the wrong words and the wrong ideas for the long term survival and soverignty of the United States.

I kind of feel sorry for the President even though I believe he is 99% wrong on this particular issue.

It is obviously wearing on him even more than the other significant issues of his Presidency…. Perhaps because he knows he is wrong and he realizes he is not only "stabbing his 'base' in the back" but also a high percentage of the ‘loyal opposition’ on the Illegal Alien Invasion problem.

President Bush IS supporting amnesty, (just like we expected), but without the courage to call it amnesty. A small cash payment and go ‘to the back of the line for citizenship'’….. But these people are expert at ‘taking cuts’ in the line, so I expect those that find some advantage to getting citizenship (Medicare, Social Security etc.) Therefore, we can expect to see them, in the near future, in the FRONT of the line, WITH 20 - 30 million of THEIR EXTENDED FAMILES, who are still currently residing in their countries of origin.

The current plans to send the National Guard to the border are a double insult; They are an insult to the conservatives demanding action (but getting only a pretense of action). And they are an insult to the National Guard members and their families… President Bush is planning on deploying them to run errands and do maintainence tasks for Border Patrol EXECUTIVES and do construction work that is more in the venue of the Army Corps Of Engineers or private contractors….

(Speaking of that, I wonder if they are going to have to do environmental impact statements, archaeological surveys and all the other crud that are normally required by the government and the lawyers to build their little bits of actual, physical fence and the larger, pretend bits of ‘virtual, high tech fence’.)

{As a guy who spent a good part of his early career getting into places that he wasn’t supposed to go [in the service of Uncle Sam] and later got paid big bucks by government and private industry for PREVENTING other people from getting into places out in the middle of nowhere that they weren’t supposed to go; I can tell you with some degree of experience and authority that a ‘virtual fence’ is a ludicrous idea unless you have real people with real powers of enforcement within five minutes response time}.

I was kind of hoping that President Bush had ’seen the light’ because I still support him on 60% of his endeavors… But on this subject, he lived up to my expectations again… This time as an expected disappointment.

[ovrtaxt]

That's an asinine statement.

Do you have locks on your doors? Doesn't matter, I feel like coming over. Hope you have lots of food in the fridge! I think I like your car too. I'm sure you got the 'no door locks' option...

[Glenn]

but you will not keep these people out if they want to come

Aw. Can't we at least make it a little difficult for them? Challenge them? Create a fence that will mimic natural selection so we might only get the strongest and smartest?

[reagan_fanatic]

You can build walls that will reach the heavens, but you will not keep these people out if they want to come

No one has ever suggested that it would 'keep them all out'. The purpose of building the wall is to slow the massive wave of illegals who currently can cross the border with relative ease.

The wall will not solve the problem, but it will allow us to get a handle on the situation, something we desperately need after sitting back on our collective @sses for the last ten years or so and allowing up to 20 million ILLEGAL aliens to blatantly violate our sovereignty and violate our laws.

[Fishrrman]

mariabush wrote:
You can build walls that will reach the heavens, but you will not keep these people out if they want to come.

Utter nonsense.

Walls WORK.

If you don't believe that, ask Berliners who lived with their own "wall". I saw it personally, and traveled _through_ the Berlin wall in 1971, and viewed it from BOTH sides.

Painful message: it did what it was intended to do. It kept the overwhelming majority of people on one side of the wall from going to the OTHER side.

One can take issue with the purpose of the wall that was built in Berlin: to keep people confined INside. But you cannot argue against its success in doing so.

OF COURSE a few were still able to "get across". A few.
But not thousands
But not millions
But not tens of millions
Or even one hundred million.

The reason the "wall opponents" and open-borders folks are so vehemently opposed to even the NOTION of building a border barrier is BECAUSE it will work. It will work effectively and passively, and will be there for future generations (and political administrations).

One can "turn off" a virtual fence (howls of derisive laughter towards ANYONE who thinks such a concoction can be established). And that's exactly what Hillary is going to do once she assumes power in 2009.

Questions for maria:
Have you ever been to Washington?
Have you been to the White House?
What surrounds the White House grounds?
Why is it there?

- John

[mississippi red-neck]

You can build walls that will reach the heavens, but you will not keep these people out if they want to come.

That's a bunch of crap.

If he can't stop unarmed Mexicans from crossing our border then he can't do his job and isn't fit to be President.

Protecting our borders is his first and most important constitutional responsibility as Presideny.

It is not his job to supply his big business buddies with cheap illegal labor and use tax payer money to subsidize their paycheck.

If he can't stop unarmed Mexicans from crossing our borders it is because he is either incompetent or he doesn't want to.

It's no wonder our soldiers [of a superpower] are still getting shot up and killed in Iraq [a stone age country] three years after it should have been over.