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‘Islam 100 times more likely to be associated with terrorism’ (media gets it right for a change)
Pakistan Daily Times ^ | 16 May 06 | Unknown

Posted on 05/16/2006 3:03:33 PM PDT by LSUfan

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To: LSUfan
“Associating the criminal enterprise of terrorism with the faith of 1.4 billion Muslims, 99.99 percent of whom will never come near any act of terrorism, much less use Islam as a justification for their crimes, is just plain wrong,”

OK that means that there are 14 million Islamic terrorists then. I doubt that there are THAT many, but what proportion of  today's Muslims consider deliberately targeting civilians to be justified if the object is spreading Islam/destroying the Infidel? Isn't it true that among Palestinians, 75% consider suicide bombings against civilians to be legitimate tactics of "resistance?" Is there any other group that holds such attitudes in such wide numbers?

...the sponsors of every campaign have been terrorist groups trying to establish or maintain political self-determination by compelling a democratic power to withdraw from a territory they claim,’” Ahmed quotes Pape as saying. He said that occupation is the primary motivator and religion, at best, is an “aggravating” factor. “Considering this, the Iraq war has only amplified the problem..."

First of all, the 'insurgents' are NOT perpetuating the bloodshed in Iraq in order to 'establish' any sort of 'self-determination.' That is a canard. Terrorism by it very nature is ALWAYS  used as a tool for tyranny. Without exception. The vast majority of the Iraqi people on the otherhand have repeatedly risked their lives voting and serving as elected officials, soldiers and civil servants in an an attempt to establish self-determination. The 'insurgents' are the ones who are trying to quell that by forcibly installing a yet another minority-run, terrorist-friendly dictatorship.

Furthermore, the Islamic World had nary a peep to say about how Saddam Hussein was a great killer of Muslim men, women and children during his brutal rule. Indeed, the only outcry for the loss of life under Saddam's tyranny was in blaming the United States for the Stalinist dictator's neglect while under the UN sanctions regime -- which itself was a 12-year experiment offered to the internationalists as a peaceful alternative to regime change.

Thus we can conclude that Muslims have no problem when one of their own foists wholesale slaughter in the pursuit of establishing/maintaining a dictatorship. They also have no problem absolving those who are continuing to kill Muslims in the pursuit of installing another one. Meanwhile outsiders who are expending blood and treasure with the object of fostering limited representative government are 'occupiers.' Natives who are participating in this pursuit are 'puppets.'

George Orwell coudn't have dared to fabricate such a twisted mindset.

The Big Picture
21 posted on 05/16/2006 3:53:48 PM PDT by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Another thing always ignored by apologists for Islam is that trans-national terrorism is very close to 100% Islam-inspired. The non-Islamic groups that are cited for being major terror networks in recent years are ALL concentrated very tightly within their own societies (Tamil Tigers, ETA in Spain, IRA when it was still blowing people up in the UK, and terrorist rebels in Columbia). They are bad for the locales they target, but the vast vast majority of the world's citizens are not targets of those groups. That's not to make light of the horrors that occur within those 4 countries, but only ISLAMIC terrorism is widely trans-national and truly a global threat. Only ISLAMIC terrorism is a threat to just about anyone in the world, even many Muslims. None of us have to worry for a second about being harmed by the Tamil Tigers, ETA, IRA, or FARC unless we choose to go into the specific areas they are known to target. OTOH, any of us could be slaughtered by Islamo-fascist terrorists at any time, anywhere in the world. The threat of ISLAMIC terrorists is uniquely widespread and virulent, even if our individual statistical chances of being blown up are rather tiny (unless we are in Iraq, etc.).


22 posted on 05/16/2006 3:58:30 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: LSUfan

Whining Muslim alert.


23 posted on 05/16/2006 4:10:39 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Is tractus pro pensio.)
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To: LSUfan

They are off by a few orders of magnitude.


24 posted on 05/16/2006 4:19:54 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: LSUfan

Gee, I wonder why anyone would associate Islam with terrorist with all those Catholic suicide bombers blowing everyone up.


25 posted on 05/16/2006 4:20:15 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: LSUfan

As Samuel Huntington said, "Islam has bloody borders."


27 posted on 05/16/2006 4:29:01 PM PDT by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: LSUfan
Seriously, if those nutty Orangemen go on their annual march in Northern Ireland, all sectarian violence would involve Muslims?
28 posted on 05/16/2006 4:48:32 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: LSUfan
Koran 98 - Evidence

....Those People of the Book who disbelieve
as well as the associators will remain in Hell fire;
those are the worst creatures.

The Koran specifically places those of The Book (Torah)
Christians and Jews, as the worst of the worst
The lowest of the low, inhabiting the lowest places in Hell

Such is their belief toward those who have shown the truth
about the nature of God and what is expected of His people
But have not followed the "Purified Text" as shown by the last
prophet Mohammad.

I would really recommend reading the Koran, it is quite enlightening
With regard to the Islamic hatred of Christians and Jews
A vision frozen in the 7th century
And forever blocked from continuing revelation

English Koran
29 posted on 05/16/2006 4:51:29 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: LSUfan

This is a great analysis of the Islamic threat:
http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_05.htm

(was a response to something he wrote earlier, but read the whole thing - a most sobering analysis. I went there and had to read the entire thing. Look at the surveys about opinion about suicide in the name of defending Islam, and know why we are standing on the brink of an abyss....)

this article was linked to in this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1632885/posts)


30 posted on 05/16/2006 6:54:03 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: LSUfan

I'm shocked, mind you, shocked!


31 posted on 05/16/2006 8:12:58 PM PDT by Jolly Swagman
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To: Enchante

Excellent point.


32 posted on 05/16/2006 8:43:14 PM PDT by PghBaldy (If my ancestors acted like the current crop of "immigrants", you would have to "press 2" for Polish.)
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To: LSUfan

If they say they are going to obliterate Israel and replace our constitution with the quaran, then that is exactly what they plan to do.
They keep telling us this, yet we continue to brush it off and laugh.
They have infiltrated us, in fact the world. Their procedures work. They move to a country, raise families, acquire jobs in all sectors, live in all parts of the target country. They start to make demands based on their their religious beliefs (the quaran). Nativity scenes are offensive, require rooms and time for prayer, imposing their beliefs at the expense of others. Softening the target so to speak. By leveraging political ground gained at every turn. Subjugation in any means,some subtle, some not so subtle. Each appeasement is a victory for them.When their population reaches a critical mass they strike. They plan to do this with in our lifetimes.France may well already be lost. There is no such thing as a peaceful islamist, it simply means they have not been activated.
We must not continue to dismiss them in apathetic arrogance.
We should be prepared to bare arms.

Will it take an American Hiroshima to awaken the majority, to mobilize our masses against the Islamic quest of world domination?
Islam must be crushed. Islam must not be recognized as a religion any more than Nazism was. All Mosques should be declared delinquent of taxes owed retroactive from the day they were built. ANY gathering of Islamics should be PROSECUTED as CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT MASS MURDER, found guilty and deported. Country by country, state by state, town by town, foot by foot, inch by inch, the Islamic cancer must be eradicated.



ACT NOW BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE:
Dear Representative:
As a registered voter and tax paying legal resident of the United States of America we urge you to provide us with your utmost commitment to providing the citizens of our nation protection of our rights, life, liberties, property, and our hallowed Constitution.

We are under attack by an ideology that demands our demise. We will not stand quiet in the eve of our destruction. And we certainly will not tolerate our elected representative to lead us to the slaughter.

We urge you to introduce a referendum on whether Islam is a religion, or an ideology.

The advantages and protections of tax-exempt status afforded to a religion should not be extended to an ideology determined to replace our Constitution with the Koran.

In spite of what the media reports, the American public is well aware that that the war on terrorism is in reality, our defensive efforts against the Islamic offensive. We are not being provided with the defense of both our rights and the sanctity of our Constitution as long as we allow the enemy to operate freely with in our borders.

Americans are concerned and are in extreme jeopardy and demand you perform your duties as both an American and elected representative.

In Earnest,


33 posted on 05/17/2006 9:14:22 AM PDT by SteveSpeaking
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To: kinoxi
someone forgot some zeros

Indeed! My first sentiment as well. ; )

34 posted on 05/17/2006 9:15:18 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: LSUfan
“Such lopsided portrayal is indicative of deep-seated misunderstandings about Islam, and sometimes just plain prejudice,” said Parvez Ahmed, chairman of the board of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) in an article on Monday. “Surely, all terrorists are not Muslim. Neither are all Muslims terrorists.”

Or not...
There is no question in my mind whatsoever that, absent islam, terrorism and barbarism in the world would be reduced 99.9%

I would be thrilled to have that theory checked out.

Of course, nutcases have been with us throughout history, but rarely in wholesale lots, like 1.6 billion at a time... and organized...

35 posted on 05/20/2006 9:51:19 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Publius6961
Dear Freepers, please help here...

I got this message today, somewhat self-edited albeit out of ignorance...

"SHUT UP ASS WHOLE YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT US -ARABS-SO STFU"

But here's the mystery. It was in response to a thread I don't remember reading. Does anyone have a link to it?

"Re: Schools asked to ban book; Parent of seventh-grader says it promotes hatred toward Arabs"

Sounds fascinating.

36 posted on 05/20/2006 9:57:40 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: walford
OK that means that there are 14 million Islamic terrorists then. I doubt that there are THAT many, but

Why is that so unlikely?
It represent just 0.88% of all muslims. Hell, there are that many criminally insane in most populations!

My educated guess is that it's closer to 20%.
Now, that is a scary number...

37 posted on 05/20/2006 10:17:38 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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