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Homosexuality splits American Baptists
UPI ^ | May 17, 2006

Posted on 05/18/2006 9:12:48 AM PDT by NYer

COVINA, May 17 (UPI) — Leaders of the American Baptist Churches of the Pacific Southwest have left the denomination, primarily over its handling of homosexuality.


    


The region's board of directors unanimously affirmed late last week an earlier recommendation to withdraw from its "Covenant of Relationships and Agreements" with the American Baptist Churches USA, Associated Baptist Press reported Wednesday.


    


The national denomination, which has its origins in a Civil War-era split from what is now the Southern Baptist Convention, is based in Valley Forge, Pa.


    


"God's heart is broken when sisters and brothers in Christ divide over matters of scriptural interpretation. We pray God's blessing on PSW as they go their way from the ABC family," said Roy Medley, the denomination's general secretary, according to American Baptist News Service. He also said "this parting of the ways will not diminish our passion, commitment and undaunted spirit to move forward in mission and ministry."


    


The latest decision ratifies an April 29 "straw poll" vote of delegates from the region's churches. In that vote, held at First Baptist Church in Pomona, Calif., and other locations around the region, members representing congregations voted 1,125-209 to terminate the covenant. In American Baptist polity, such covenants are important written agreements that bind the region with the national body.


    


The region's executive minister, Dale Salico, said in a May 12 press release that such an "overwhelming response" indicated a "mandate" from the vast majority of the region's American Baptists. The release also noted that 152 of the region's 250 eligible churches participated in the vote.


    


The region's board of directors, in initially recommending the severance, released a statement saying they made the recommendation because "deep differences of theological convictions and values between the American Baptist Churches of the Pacific Southwest (ABCPSW) and the American Baptist Churches in the USA (ABCUSA) are understood by the board of directors of the ABCPSW as irreconcilable."


    


Most of the "irreconcilable" differences seemed to focus on the way the denomination, with approximately 1.5 million members in more than 5,800 churches, relates to "gay-friendly" ministers and congregations. Even though American Baptist leaders approved a 1992 resolution opposing homosexual conduct, some ABC conservatives have asserted the wording and the enforcement of the motion on denominational agencies and personnel are not strong enough.


    


An August 2005 vote by the ABC-USA Ministers' Council particularly riled conservatives in the denomination. In it, the ministers defeated a proposed amendment that would have required members of the organization to be ministers who believe "sexual intimacy is only appropriate in the context of heterosexual marriage."


    


Progressive and centrist American Baptists, meanwhile, have tried to defend what they see as traditional Baptist stances on congregational autonomy and individual conscience in opposing the ouster of pro-gay churches and leaders.


    


The region's churches still have to decide individually whether to sever their relationships with the national denomination. A new group, called the Association of American Baptists in the Pacific Southwest, has established itself to coordinate the work of churches that choose to stay in the denomination. The group's Web site says it will work with the Los Angeles Baptist City Society, a local association of American Baptist churches.


    


In the meantime, according to the departed region's website, American Baptist Churches of the Pacific Southwest will change its name to Transformation Ministries, which the site describes as "a movement of Baptist churches committed to change their worlds for Christ."


TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: americanbaptists; apostacy; apostate; apostatechurch; baptist; church; gayagenda; glbt; homos; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; perversion; perverts
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1 posted on 05/18/2006 9:12:51 AM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

.....I won't go into the obvious headline, I shall remain ever so politically correct.



Doogle


2 posted on 05/18/2006 9:16:31 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF...8th TFW...Ubon Thailand...408thMMS..."69"...Night Line Delivery...AMMO!!)
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To: NYer
Leaders of the American Baptist Churches of the Pacific Southwest have left the denomination, primarily over its handling of homosexuality.

"Don't let the door hit ya where homosexuality split ya."

3 posted on 05/18/2006 9:17:45 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: All

Okay... I'm confused. Where does the Southern Baptist Convention come into all this? What is their stand?


4 posted on 05/18/2006 9:18:52 AM PDT by awakened (The evidence of God's existence far outweighs the proof of His absence.)
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To: NYer

Not this American Baptist. Nor his church.


5 posted on 05/18/2006 9:22:06 AM PDT by day10 (Whenever you come near the human race, there's layers and layers of nonsense.)
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To: awakened

My guess is the Southern Baptists are the traditional Christians and the splinter group represent modern day revisionist "feel-good" Christianity.


6 posted on 05/18/2006 9:23:41 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: NYer

If I'm reading this correctly, it sounds like the ABCPSW got it right.


7 posted on 05/18/2006 9:28:11 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: awakened

A very poorly written article. They should clearly state, A left B because B supports gays. Instead there is just confusion and PC talk.


8 posted on 05/18/2006 9:28:19 AM PDT by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: ZULU
There's lot's of different Baptist denominations. The Southern Baptists are not involved in this at all. American Baptists are a totally different group. Besides, I think the SBs split from them, not the other way around.
9 posted on 05/18/2006 9:31:04 AM PDT by chesley (Republicans don't deserve to win, but America does not deserve the Dhimmicrats.)
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To: ZULU
and the splinter group represent modern day revisionist "feel-good" Christianity.

You mean the "And I say unto thee,if it feelest good,thou shalt do it in the name of the Lord thy Pal" crowd?

10 posted on 05/18/2006 9:31:04 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: NYer
"God's heart is broken when sisters and brothers in Christ divide over matters of scriptural interpretation...."

But more so, when brothers and sisters disregard the clear instruction of scripture and "reinterpret" it to condone perversion.

11 posted on 05/18/2006 9:31:46 AM PDT by XR7
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To: day10

What you said.


12 posted on 05/18/2006 9:32:28 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: icwhatudo
A very poorly written article. They should clearly state, A left B because B supports gays. Instead there is just confusion and PC talk.

That is particularly vexing, when you recall that UPI is owned by Pat Robertson.

13 posted on 05/18/2006 9:33:48 AM PDT by XR7
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To: NYer

Probably the same people who think "God's doing a new thing!"
He isn't, and the Word has not changed. Homosexuality is still an abomination to God.


14 posted on 05/18/2006 9:34:02 AM PDT by TommyDale (North Carolina looks forward to the disbarring of Mike Nifong.)
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To: icwhatudo

That is why they get all those degrees so they can successfully appear to say something when they are not actually saying anything at all. Clinton was master at this.


15 posted on 05/18/2006 9:36:10 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: NYer
Homosexuality splits American Baptists

Yeah, about a 98 to 2 split.

16 posted on 05/18/2006 9:36:14 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: awakened

SBC is a different denomination entirely. This has nothing to do with them. They are very biblical in their stance against homosexuality, and they thus far haven't fell too hard for the emotional arguments that begin to weaken that stance.


17 posted on 05/18/2006 9:37:23 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: icwhatudo; awakened
GLAAD Concerned Over Pat Robertson's Purchase of United Press International

http://www.glaad.org/media/archive_detail.php?id=294&PHPSESSID=fc443a97c5ae2371a95a92e246b13d6f

HOLLYWOOD, CA -- In response to confirmation that televangelist Pat Robertson had successfully purchased the financially strapped press wire United Press International, the Los Angeles Chapter of the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation expressed serious concern over the potential negative ramifications.

"UPI has a long history, and a reputation, that gives its name a lot of credibility," commented Chris Fowler, executive director. "The possibility that UPI's name could lend credibility to Robertson's extreme and fundamentalist viewpoints is a terrifying prospect. He's dodged questions about ways in which he might affect the editorial policies of UPI. That should be a warning sign to anyone who considers Robertson's message exclusionary and hateful. It is particularly frightening to minorities who have historically lacked access to the media, and whose existences don't conform to Robertson's so-called 'family values'."

"We know what this man's views are on rights for gays and lesbians, and on abortion," continued Fowler. "Robertson inappropriately attacked these issues to champion 'family values' in his 1988 presidential campaign. With UPI as his new platform, Robertson could spread his prejudiced message even further in a world that already suffers from far too much intolerance, and not enough acceptance."

There is also concern over Robertson's expressed interest in the Latin American and radio operations. "Robertson's views could have a powerful impact in parts of Latin America," concluded Fowler. "The news is supposed to be unbiased. Yet Robertson has built a reputation on being blatantly biased. If he's preaching his message in any way editorially -- no matter how subtly -- then he's having a negative affect on the people UPI serves."


18 posted on 05/18/2006 9:39:49 AM PDT by XR7
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To: awakened

http://www.sbc.net/printfriendly.asp

Sexuality

We affirm God's plan for marriage and sexual intimacy – one man, and one woman, for life. Homosexuality is not a "valid alternative lifestyle." The Bible condemns it as sin. It is not, however, unforgivable sin. The same redemption available to all sinners is available to homosexuals. They, too, may become new creations in Christ.


19 posted on 05/18/2006 9:41:27 AM PDT by WKB (Gal. 6:7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.)
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To: XR7
That is particularly vexing, when you recall that UPI is owned by Pat Robertson.

That is CBN. UPI is a liberal news organization.

20 posted on 05/18/2006 9:41:29 AM PDT by Always Right
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