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1 posted on 05/18/2006 9:29:04 PM PDT by RWR8189
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Krauthammer should go back to the DU and join Moveon.

Haha.

APf


2 posted on 05/18/2006 9:32:11 PM PDT by APFel (Loose ships sink lips.)
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The tower would be facing Mexico.

3 posted on 05/18/2006 9:34:30 PM PDT by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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I'm glad to see Krauthammer taking a far more sober position on this issue than some of his fellow Fox News (so-called) conservative analysts (Kristol and Barnes, specifically).


4 posted on 05/18/2006 9:35:56 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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I do not doubt the president's sincerity in wanting to humanize and regularize the lives of America's 11 million illegal aliens.

They're not America's illegal aliens...They're (mostly) Mexico's illegal aliens that are sqatting here.

6 posted on 05/18/2006 9:40:58 PM PDT by Ranald S. MacKenzie (Its the philosophy, stupid.)
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10 posted on 05/18/2006 10:03:25 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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Do liberals really believe in a de facto policy that depresses the wages of the poorest and most desperate Americans, African-Americans most prominently among them?

BAM!
11 posted on 05/18/2006 10:06:27 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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President Bush promises to increase the number of border agents. That was promised in the Simpson-Mazzoli amnesty legislation in 1986. The result was 11 million new illegals.

I wonder if the guys shown on the website below are some of those 11 million? Take a look, hold your nose, and realize that it's coming to your neighborhood soon.

http://www.wehategringos.com/index2.shtml

12 posted on 05/18/2006 10:09:06 PM PDT by janetgreen
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But doing so while fraudulently promising to close the border is a simple capitulation -- and an invitation to the next president to declare the next amnesty for the next torrent of illegals who will have understood from the Bush program that crossing the border at night and finding a place to hide is the surest road to the American dream.

Hmm. The way I read this Charles thinks a Lie was told in that speech. I said the same and it wasn't responded to well. Guess Charles must be out of line too? ;-)

He nails it when he references it isn't only conservatives unhappy that have been the focus of the address. This affects black Americans, union workers, and middle and poor America unfavorably. Everyone except the elites, businesses making money off cheap labor, and the illegals. Though in reality all are hurt by the Senate's/admin's proposal. They just don't have the sense to realize it.

13 posted on 05/18/2006 10:09:27 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Self Admitted BorderBot: Be Heard: Send a Brick: http://www.send-a-brick.com/brick.htm)
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I concur with his points about a wall and increased enforcement. I vehemently disagree with his point about legalization. Way too many pundits are presenting the situation in all or nothing terms! Here's my point: if you build a wall, expand the border patrol, implement a nationwide, biometric based tracking system, and clamp down on businesses that hire illegals, you will turn the tide the other direction. Remove or greatly reduce the incentives for them to come, and they will stop coming. You don't have to find and deport all of them. You catch who you can and create a inhospitable environment for the rest. Shoot, you could even offer an amnesty...one that says we won't prosecute you if you get yourself back across the border within a certain period of time.

The problem is, too many of our leaders, including President Bush, want to be nice guys. Judeo-Christian ethics may be well and good on a personal level, but we are talking about a nation and the rule of law. Does anyone here think for one instant that legalizing the illegals will solve the problem? Our leaders apparently have no problem offering the proverbial carrot, but they don't have a clue when it comes time to use the stick!


14 posted on 05/18/2006 10:10:22 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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Kruat has encapulated my ambivalence and frustration, about our President, on this issue, as well as some others, of less importance. Bush is living in a dream world, on this issue. He is not serious, in the sense that he is not being practical. Bush needs to take a cold shower.


16 posted on 05/18/2006 10:19:30 PM PDT by Torie
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I am not against legalization [its amnesty, Charles] Admittedly, legalization is desperately unfair to the further millions who have been waiting in line at U.S. consulates around the world. And by itself, it would only encourage future illegals. But if coupled with a program that closes down the border, it would make sense. It would resolve the problem once and for all.

Poor Charles. He is supposedly a conservative, so he must write a column critical of the illegal invasion. But, he most definitely is not part of the right-wing rabble. So he writes the column critical of Bush, but adds this paragraph so his peers know he is not one of, well....them.

Charles gives it away all too often that he is an out of touch Beltway elitist who has sneering contempt for conservatives. We need merely recall his infamous Mel Gibson Passion column for proof.

17 posted on 05/18/2006 10:22:40 PM PDT by Plutarch (Trading amnesty for border security will yield neither an end to amnesties nor border security.)
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Excellent read. As my mother used to say...."the road to hell is paved with good intentions".


24 posted on 05/18/2006 10:56:13 PM PDT by TheLion
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"Everyone knows that anything short of enough border guards to do Hands Across America from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean won't do a thing to eliminate illegal immigration."

Mr. Kraut Hammer, such "Hands Across America" project would require about 1,716,880 "border guards" (1951 miles, times 5280 feet per mile, divided by average 6 foot spans). And the potential for more Roman-esque bureaucratic corruption from that would be enormous.

The President is doing all that he feasibly can about the illegal immigration problem.

If we're really so terrified of little Jesus (pronounced Hay-soos) or of even thinking about our real defense problem (from the Middle East), let's simply build a wall like the following.


34 posted on 05/19/2006 1:44:02 AM PDT by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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Do liberals really believe in a de facto policy that depresses the wages of the poorest and most desperate Americans, African-Americans most prominently among them?

Liberals oppose serious reform of an educational system that traps millions in illiteracy, poverty, and hopelessness. Liberals defend a structrually bankrupt Social Security System that takes 10% of a person's lifetime earnings and in return pays a welfare stipend. Why should liberal policy on immigration be any different?

Liberals favor the mass immigration of poor people because they think a few years down the road these people will become democrat voters. That's the sum total of the liberal calculation. They are in a panic because they have lost their permanent lock on Congress. They now want to import a new American population that they think they can control.

41 posted on 05/19/2006 3:13:42 AM PDT by sphinx
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Why does this wall-building mania remind me of the Maginot Line?

Probably because it will be just about as effective given the true open-borders sentiments of the president and so many other permanent underclass advocates.


44 posted on 05/19/2006 4:34:32 AM PDT by dropzone
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Krauthammer is at best a moderate conservative. However, he is entirely correct in what he wrote in this article. Hopefully, since he is not a "fire-eater" on the order of Michelle Malkin or Michael Savage, the White House will pay attention to him and do the right thing.
49 posted on 05/19/2006 5:36:37 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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Bush knows all this! He's not some sort of moron. He's just trying to sugar coat something that isn't going to go down at all, much less easily. There's clearly some sort of agenda though.

This entire thing is an abomination!


51 posted on 05/19/2006 5:42:33 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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59 posted on 05/19/2006 8:30:41 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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Ping! Thought you might find this interesting.


64 posted on 05/19/2006 11:11:33 PM PDT by Primetimedonna (Charter member of the San Francisco SnowFlakes! We love our Tony! It's SAN FRANCISCO, not Frisco.)
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