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Facing the facts as he saw them [Lee Strobel on Christianity, Da Vinci Code, & more]
Minneapolis Star Tribune ^ | May 19, 2006 | Pamela Miller

Posted on 05/20/2006 3:44:21 AM PDT by rhema

If you want to debate Christianity with Lee Strobel, you'd better do your homework. The California author brings to conversations the same friendly, fervent tenacity and intelligence that marked his former career as a big-city journalist and his current one as author of 17 books, including "The Case for Faith" and "The Case for Christ." Strobel, who calls himself a multidenominational Christian, has been a hit in the evangelical world, partly because his personal story is so dramatic. In 1981, the Chicago Tribune legal affairs editor jettisoned his adamant atheism and converted to Christianity.

In his work since as an author, speaker and teaching pastor, he's embraced what he calls an investigative approach to Christianity, citing research and experts that he says prove Jesus' life and death were precisely as the New Testament describes. Critics say he ignores academic and philosophical evidence and arguments that are skeptical about Christianity, but the intelligence and passion he exudes are undeniable.

We talked to Strobel recently while he was in the Twin Cities.

Q Talk about your latest book.

A "Exploring the Da Vinci Code" [with Gary Poole, 2006, Zondervan Press] says, essentially, good for Dan Brown for raising spiritual curiosity. The book and movie have inspired a lot of conversation. But historically, it's nonsense -- 10 percent truth, 90 percent fiction. We take a look at the book and the facts.

Q How did you come to Christianity?

A I grew up in Chicago in a nominally Christian household. I had the usual questions -- How can there be a loving God and a hell? How can Jesus be the only way? If Darwinism is true, isn't God out of a job?

In the fall of 1979, my wife, Leslie, became a Christian. I was dismayed -- I thought she'd turn

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: bookreview; bornagain; davincicode; leestrobel; strobel
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1 posted on 05/20/2006 3:44:23 AM PDT by rhema
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To: rhema

As an atheist I have never read any of these articles about former atheists that convince me even a little, and this one is no exception. But I'd rather read a hundred of these pieces than one more "God is dead" self-loathing dirge.


2 posted on 05/20/2006 3:48:42 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Kowtowing to the Bush haters ends now)
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To: rhema
Forget the Da Vinci Code. A new and more terrifying secret has been discovered in a famous American painters works .... check out the Norman Rockwell Code conspiracy at:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2581280022025788554&q=rockwell
3 posted on 05/20/2006 4:06:53 AM PDT by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you! (MaDuce = M2HB .50 BMG))
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To: rhema; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; jude24
I really like Lee Strobel's "Case for Christ" book. I find his defense of Christianity to be spot on in most cases.

I worry, though, whether people get the impression they're to be committed to Christ because they have intellectually satisfying information that helps them maintain their Christianity or because they've committed to Christ NO MATTER the satisfaction level of any current investigation into any murky issue might be.

It's like the Soldier's Oath into the US military being:


4 posted on 05/20/2006 4:10:00 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: MaDuce
Forget the Da Vinci Code. A new and more terrifying secret has been discovered in a famous American painters works .... check out the Norman Rockwell Code conspiracy

This is as funny as the Da Vinci Code is ponderously pretentious.

5 posted on 05/20/2006 4:29:47 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: xzins

I will never forget the first time I heard about the DaVinci book, a friend said that her mother read the book and was convinced that Jesus had been married etc.

Point being, some weak Christians who are weak in their faith were questioning Christianity and the reason is that the novel was about a secret organization formed by the Catholic Church that not a lot of people knew nothing about.
OpusDei

The author of the DaVinci Code cleverly used the name of the "secret" organization to further his "secrets" that there must be something to this "secret code".

All this secrecy and intrigue was a veiled attempt to shake the faith of weak Christians and to question thousands of years of faith and the Bible.

Don't fall for it. Believe in the Bible and Jesus Christ!

This is what Opus Dei is:

"Opus Dei is a Catholic institution founded by Saint Josemaría Escrivá. Its mission is to help people turn their work and daily activities into occasions for growing closer to God, for serving others, and for improving society"

http://www.stjosemaria.org/sji/default.asp

stjoesmaria was born in Spain and is Spanish....

Hmmm want to add to the "mystery of the DaVinci Code or the "conspiracy"
this may be a stretch but with this controversial conspiracy amongst it all we have the spanish speaking
illegal aliens infiltratiing this country any connection???


6 posted on 05/20/2006 4:33:55 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A. and the Troops who protect her.)
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To: Darkwolf377
As an atheist I have never read any of these articles about former atheists that convince me even a little, and this one is no exception. But I'd rather read a hundred of these pieces than one more "God is dead" self-loathing dirge.

Gotta give guys like Strobel that much, anyway: being related to Jesus seems to give them a lot more enjoyment than taking up permanent residence in a materialist Slough of Despond.

When it comes to Christian apologists, I prefer Chesterton [Orthodoxy; The Everlasting Man] to Strobel.

7 posted on 05/20/2006 4:37:32 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: xzins

For those who want to believe but have difficulty, and for those who think God and Jesus are just comforting superstitions, historical facts and intellectual reasoning are helpful.

For those who know, these discussions are satisfying though unnecessary.


8 posted on 05/20/2006 4:38:09 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Darkwolf377
Yeah, I'm a "Secular Conservative", athiest for all public/practical purposes, but I really find whiny Athiests to be so tedious.

Anywho, I know plenty of folks who actually BELIEVE the DaVinci code is real. They say "well, its based on fact". Bleh, so is Star Trek..

9 posted on 05/20/2006 4:58:32 AM PDT by Paradox (Removing all Doubt since 1998!)
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To: rhema

I first met Lee Strobel as a 17 year old at a regional high school journalism conference in St Charles, Illinois in 1969. I met him again in 1994 following my own conversion to Christianity. Took me 13 more years than it did for him to acknowledge the truth.


10 posted on 05/20/2006 5:06:51 AM PDT by Knute (W- Yep, He's STILL the President!)
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To: xzins
...or because they've committed to Christ NO MATTER the satisfaction level of any current investigation into any murky issue might be.

I must misunderstand your point...why would that be a worry?

11 posted on 05/20/2006 5:11:02 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Paradox

To me this is ho hum. The book is definately a page turner, but the legends and conspiracy theories have been around a long time. It turns into a search for the Holy Grail which was a popular theme in the 14th century. It points up the fact that many Bible believers do't know church history and they concentrate on the first century exclusively. Is theirs a living God or an artifact?


12 posted on 05/20/2006 5:14:26 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: stopem

I became curious and read Brown's book. It's junk. Not even good detective fiction. As the movie's almost always worse than the book, I think I'll save the money and play an extra round of golf.


13 posted on 05/20/2006 5:17:27 AM PDT by kjo
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To: Darkwolf377

"The Case for Faith" and "The Case for Christ."

Read these two, The Case for Christ, first. Before I could have faith I had to have facts. These books are filled with facts.


14 posted on 05/20/2006 5:43:26 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: ryan71

> The Case for Christ, first. Before I could have faith I had to have facts. These books are filled with facts.

Yes, but then, so is "Da Vinci Code." I tried to read "Case for Christ," but while it was "filled with facts," it was also filled with specious, unconvincing and basically illegitimate arguements. The paragraph at the bottom of page 22/top of page 23 was both typical and completely invalid.

History has shown that you can trick someone into faith (Scientology, anyone?). But it also shows that when the person you're trying to trick figures out what you're doing, you can turn them away from whatever it is you're tryign to convince them of.


15 posted on 05/20/2006 5:54:22 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: rhema
The Bible is based on historical fact, whereas the DaVinci Code is hysterical fiction.
16 posted on 05/20/2006 6:02:47 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: rhema; Darkwolf377

Very interesting read by skilled author Grant R. Jeffrey:

"Creation-Remarkable Evidence of God's Design"


17 posted on 05/20/2006 7:05:23 AM PDT by Edgewood Pilot
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To: rhema

Thank you for that link. I've tried to find Chesterton on the web beforewithout too much success but this site is wonderful. Just finished reading the essay on Babies. So true!


18 posted on 05/20/2006 7:12:57 AM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: stopem

to those religious folks who feel threatened by the da vinci code,

ask yourself one question:

what is more believable - that there was a man named jesus who happened to be married and had a child?...OR, that a man named jesus was immaculately conceived, and walked on water, and turned water into wine, etc........

...the bible is THE biggest piece of fiction of all time, and should have a disclaimer saying so


19 posted on 05/20/2006 8:45:27 AM PDT by colt fan man
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To: GarySpFc

"The Bible is based on historical fact, whereas the DaVinci Code is hysterical fiction."

...lol, what facts?!...the fact that you were TOLD to believe it?

...the bible has constantly been proven wrong over the centuries on many scientific fronts


20 posted on 05/20/2006 8:48:43 AM PDT by colt fan man
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