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Triple Crown hopeful Barbaro loses... Seriously injured during race
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Posted on 05/20/2006 11:13:23 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

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  Kiaran McLaughlin  Garrett Gomez
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 PLATINUM COUPLE
 Joseph Lostritto  Jose Espinoza
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 HEMINGWAY'S KEY
 Nick Zito  Jeremy Rose
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 GREELEY'S LEGACY
 George Weaver  Richard Migliore
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 Dan Hendricks  Alex Solis
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 Michael Matz   Edgar Prado
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 SWEETNORTHERNSAINT
 Michael Trombetta   Kent Desormeaux
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 Thomas Albertrani  Javier Castellano
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  Steve Klesaris  Ramon Dominguez

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KEYWORDS: barbaro; horseracing; preakness; sports; workingdogs
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May 20  ESPN 2:00 - 5:00 p.m. Preakness Special

1 posted on 05/20/2006 11:13:24 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog


I liked him in the Derby and I'll stick with him now. I haven't had time to read the DRF. :)


2 posted on 05/20/2006 11:16:17 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: gate2wire; ecurbh; CindyDawg; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; Duchess47; FrogInABlender; Beaker; ...
It's Preakness Day-Barbaro favored over eight Preakness opponents.

Ping!


3 posted on 05/20/2006 11:16:42 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: onyx

Sure - you gotta stick with him now :~D


4 posted on 05/20/2006 11:17:15 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Hey!! I'm at work, probably won't be able to keep up!

Just wanted to say Barbaro is going to be hard to beat. I'm not a huge racing fan but I know enough to be dangerous. To me, the most impressive thing about the Derby win was that he looked fresh after the race. He looked like he was ready to go again. Speeds great but endurance wins Triple Crowns. The Derby was the most impressive Triple Crown race I've ever seen, with the exception of Secretariats Belmont. And I've been watching for 35 years.
5 posted on 05/20/2006 11:19:42 AM PDT by saleman
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To: HairOfTheDog
Thanks for post
place holder
6 posted on 05/20/2006 11:23:01 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

go number 6


7 posted on 05/20/2006 11:24:57 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: HairOfTheDog

Looks like good eating there...


8 posted on 05/20/2006 11:26:02 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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To: HairOfTheDog

Have you read the DRF? I am wondering if he still looks much the best. Oh well, I have no bets placed this time around.


9 posted on 05/20/2006 11:27:37 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: onyx

No - I haven't read anything - just a spectator :~D


10 posted on 05/20/2006 11:29:08 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

Greeley's Legacy & Bernandino in the trifecta with Barbaro.


11 posted on 05/20/2006 11:29:45 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: HairOfTheDog
:) LOL!
12 posted on 05/20/2006 11:29:49 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: The Raven
If PP 6 doesn't win a lot of people and the Belmont will be pi$$ed.
13 posted on 05/20/2006 11:32:03 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: onyx

Who do you like...we lost a ton on the Derby! I think I'll just watch today!


14 posted on 05/20/2006 11:33:33 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: HairOfTheDog

Go Barbaro! It's been so long without a TC winner. What time is the race?


15 posted on 05/20/2006 11:34:46 AM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT!)
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To: Hildy

I've picked the last two winners of the Derby, and two of the other horses in the box.

My method is comepletely unorthodox. I pick the pretty one. I also pick the ones with names I like, or I'll sometimes pick a grey one.

There. Now you all know my technique. :)


16 posted on 05/20/2006 11:37:09 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: onyx; HairOfTheDog

I'll be cheering for Barbaro, too. I'd like to see another Triple Crown winner--it's been a long time.

Thanks for this thread, HOTD.


17 posted on 05/20/2006 11:41:54 AM PDT by American Quilter
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To: I still care

My technique.

I wait for a hunch. I'm still waiting.


18 posted on 05/20/2006 11:42:13 AM PDT by i_dont_chat (I defend the right to offend!)
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To: I still care
Derby day was a big deal at my house when I was growing up. The odd thing was my dad was not a gambler at all..he just loved the Derby. Every Derby day we'd all sit around the table, look at the paper and he'd let me and my brothers pick horses and he's bet a couple of bucks on them. It was quite the tradition. One we continued every year till the year he died. The year before he died he picked the trifecta. I'll never forget it.

I tell you this because that's how I pick my horses now...whatever horse's name makes me think of my dad the most is the one I pick...this year? SWEETNORTHERNSAINT.....

19 posted on 05/20/2006 11:42:32 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: I still care

LOL We think alike!! Pretty horses with cute names is the way I usually go :) My Picks: Barbaro, Sweet Northern Saint, and Bernardini. Good luck, all!


20 posted on 05/20/2006 11:44:58 AM PDT by angelwings49 (Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket??)
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To: I still care
My method is comepletely unorthodox. I pick the pretty one. I also pick the ones with names I like, or I'll sometimes pick a grey one.

That's what I do, too. It reminds me of the episode of Cheers in which the guys talked Diane into betting on the football pool, thinking they'd win more that way. But she won, by picking the teams from cities that had foreign-born symphony conductors. Made them very mad.

21 posted on 05/20/2006 11:45:33 AM PDT by American Quilter
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To: HairOfTheDog

Thanks for the thread. I'll check back later


22 posted on 05/20/2006 11:49:20 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: HairOfTheDog

All this and no POST TIME. You should ask MOD to put the post time in the title...


23 posted on 05/20/2006 11:50:05 AM PDT by RobFromGa (In decline, the Driveby Media is thrashing about like dinosaurs caught in the tar pits.)
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To: RobFromGa

Well, I'm sorry ;~D Post time approximately 6:14 Eastern on NBC


24 posted on 05/20/2006 11:52:52 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

no problem, thanks for the info...


25 posted on 05/20/2006 11:54:19 AM PDT by RobFromGa (In decline, the Driveby Media is thrashing about like dinosaurs caught in the tar pits.)
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To: saleman

I liked the Affirmed, Alydar duels. Nothing else separates those with talent from those with heart and talent.


26 posted on 05/20/2006 11:56:24 AM PDT by tertiary01 ( And don't waste your snide remarks on me: history will be your judge.)
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To: Hildy


I have not read the DRF, so I am only a spectator today.
I hope you didn;t lose as much as I won on the Derby.

I'm sticking with the Derby winner, but I hate to do that when I haven't read the form.

No money is involved today, so I'll just be rooting for him to win the second leg.


27 posted on 05/20/2006 12:04:57 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: American Quilter

I like the trainer too --- his life story is heart warming.


28 posted on 05/20/2006 12:06:38 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: onyx

see your freepmail...Sam just went over to the RIVERSIDE to place our bets. It's tradition!


29 posted on 05/20/2006 12:06:51 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy

I just read it.
"Big" bettor, you...lol.

I have planned my CA trip to include Del Mar's opening day plus another 10 days.


30 posted on 05/20/2006 12:11:07 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: onyx

We'll have to arrange when we're going to get together. I guess I'll come down to San Diego. Maybe I'll go to opening day with you. Cousin David knows everyone over there at DelMar, maybe I'll get him to go with us as well!


31 posted on 05/20/2006 12:13:58 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: tertiary01
Yea, those races stood out for me too. One reason was, B'ham had just opened a horsetrack. The winner of the first Alabama Derby ran 3rd in all three races as I recall. His name was Codex and he wasn't far off the pace at all. Won a little money on Codex in the Al Derby.
32 posted on 05/20/2006 12:17:18 PM PDT by saleman
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To: Hildy

Actually, I despise opening day, but my youngest son loves to go. Maybe we CAN make it a group adventure?

I am VERY SERIOUS at the track.
I really go there to win.
I like to go EARLY and leave late...lol.


33 posted on 05/20/2006 12:18:55 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: onyx

Onyx, if you're a horse-racing fan, let me remind you the Belmont Stakes is being run in Elmont, NY (on Long Island) on June 10.


34 posted on 05/20/2006 12:22:03 PM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: saleman
The Derby was the most impressive Triple Crown race I've ever seen, with the exception of Secretariat's Belmont.

Secretariat is still the only horse to win the Derby in under 2:00. Both he and Sham, the horse who finished 2nd to him that day 33 years ago, crossed the wire in under 2:00 minutes. Secretariat still holds the record for the Derby and Belmont. In fact, his time of 2:24 in the Belmont is still a world record on dirt for 1 1/2 miles. For quite a few years, he also held the world record on dirt for 1 1/8 miles, which he set in the first Marlboro Cup, a race created specifically to showcase Big Red against the best older horses in the country.

Secretariat won his Kentucky Derby in 1:59 2/5, achieving the unheard-of feat of running each quarter-mile segment fractionally faster than the one before it. The successive quarter-mile times were: 25 1/5, 24, 23 4/5, 23 2/5 and 23. The very game, superb racehorse, Sham, crossed the wire in 1:59 4/5, a time that would have won any other running of the Kentucky Derby, before or since.

THAT was the greatest Kentucky Derby ever. Barbaro has to look of greatness about him, and he might turn out to be a Triple Crown winner, but his Derby was ordinary by comparison to the 1973 Derby.

Another remarkable thing about Secretariat was that he was equally as magnificent on turf as on dirt. His last two races were on grass. He won them both, the Man o'War Stakes at Belmont, setting a new record for 1 1/2 miles on turf, and the Canadian International at Woodbine. In both his racing seasons, he won all of the year-end honors for which he was eligible. Horse of the Year twice, Champion 2-year-old, Champion 3-year-old and Champion Turf Horse.

Named by ESPN and one of the top 100 athletes of the 20th Century, he was and always will be the greatest horse I have ever seen, and I'll always love him.

Those who are interested can visit Secretariat.com

35 posted on 05/20/2006 12:25:40 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Hildy

We lived near Belmont, and my Dad and I used to go there all the time. We saw Secretariat race, in one of the few he lost. But he was beautiful even then. They allowed only betting to win, and the track was littered with tickets of people who had bet hundreds of dollars on the great horse to win, and threw them away angrily after.

One day my father went to see the great match race with Ruffian, when she broke down. He said seeing the poor horse struggle along the track with her broken leg, still trying to win, was the one of the most horrible things he ever saw. After that we stopped going for quite a while.

We still call each other and talk about the Derby, though. I told him last year to bet on Giacomo, because he had an Italian name. Salute!


36 posted on 05/20/2006 12:26:38 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: HairOfTheDog

What a beautiful race he ran in Kentucky. He deserves another win today.


37 posted on 05/20/2006 12:29:26 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Wolfstar

What was amazing in the Derby is that the jockey didn't even use the whip on Barbaro at the end!


38 posted on 05/20/2006 12:30:27 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Petronski

What this? Two huge events on LI the same weekend!


39 posted on 05/20/2006 12:32:55 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Wolfstar
Yea, I was 11y0 when Big Red won his triple crown. NO DOUBT the greatest ever. We'll know more about Barbaro shortly. He definitely has talent but alot can happen.
40 posted on 05/20/2006 12:36:46 PM PDT by saleman
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To: HairOfTheDog

Barbaro had been training in Fair Hill, MD. That's down the road from us. In fact Hubby and I will eating at Fair Hill Inn tonight - hopefully is celebration of another victory!


41 posted on 05/20/2006 12:39:32 PM PDT by Woodstock
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To: gopwinsin04; All

I just learned that I can't get the race on my Direct Tv programming. Is it going to be broadcast over the internet?


42 posted on 05/20/2006 12:50:19 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT!)
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To: Wolfstar; HairOfTheDog
Nice link, thanks. The Kentucky Horse Park has a magnificent statue of Secretariat and lots of memorabilia from his racing days. I posted pics last year on the Saddle Club thread, after a visit. Awesome place.

Hair, good job on the thread!

Barbaro FTW!

43 posted on 05/20/2006 1:13:00 PM PDT by MissTargets
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To: Wolfstar

Don't forget Secretariat's Preakness run, which many think was also the fastest ever, but failure of the electronic timing left him with a slower hand timed mark. I agree, best horse ever!


44 posted on 05/20/2006 1:14:13 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: gopwinsin04
What was amazing in the Derby is that the jockey didn't even use the whip on Barbaro at the end!

Ron Turcotte never touched Secretariat with the whip in any of the three Triple Crown races. Big Red set records in all three, although he was denied the offical Preakness record due to a timer malfunction. In the Belmont, Ron never asked Red to run until about an eighth of a mile from the finish. He never even uncrossed his reins. (Jockeys usually take a cross hold on the reins in the early part of most races and uncross them when they are ready to ask a horse to run.) Ron saw the timer and realized they could get a world record, so he only moved the reins a bit. Red did it all on his own.

Don't get me wrong. Although it isn't uncommon for a jockey not to use the whip when a horse is winning by a comfortable margin, I don't mean to take anything away from Barbaro. As I said, he does have the look of a great horse about him. I'm only describing why and how the 1973 Derby -- so far anyway -- is the greatest one ever.

On the 25th anniversary of Red's Triple Crown, I organized a tribute to him at Hollywood Park. I invited Lucien Laurin, Red's trainer, and Ron. Although Ron couldn't come, we corresponded. Lucien did come and I must tell you meeting him and talking with him about Red was one of the highligts of my life.

45 posted on 05/20/2006 1:17:50 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: saleman
NO DOUBT the greatest ever.

No doubt in my mind, that's for sure. Barbaro has been very impressive in his races so far, but as you say, a lot can happen.

46 posted on 05/20/2006 1:19:49 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: MissTargets
Nice link, thanks.

You're welcome. :)

47 posted on 05/20/2006 1:21:05 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Jemian

To answer my own question: I can't find any webcast advertised of the Preakness. AAaaargh!


48 posted on 05/20/2006 1:22:26 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT!)
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To: JohnBovenmyer
Don't forget Secretariat's Preakness run, which many think was also the fastest ever, but failure of the electronic timing left him with a slower hand timed mark. I agree, best horse ever!

Yep, the Daily Racing Form timer caught him in record time, but the track's official timer malfunctioned. The track had to go by what it's official timer showed, though. To this day the DRF chart for the 1973 Preakness shows the record time in addition to the track time.

I think if Secretariat could have been chosen King that year, we'd have had our first monarch, he was so loved. :)

49 posted on 05/20/2006 1:24:06 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Wolfstar
Great memories. I lived in upstate NY in the early '70s and had a chance to see Big Red at Saratoga. I also remember when they put in the Big Red Spring. What a champion that horse was.

I just read that his heart weighed 3 times as much as other horses' hearts. Not surprising.

50 posted on 05/20/2006 1:24:38 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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