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The Massive Yet Tiny Engine (gearhead tech breakthrough!)
American Antigravity ^ | 5/12/2006 | Tin Ventura

Posted on 05/21/2006 3:35:17 PM PDT by ovrtaxt

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To: King Prout
[ the Wenkel is a great engine. I owned a '79 RX7, and it got quite competitive mileage... until I killed it in 1998. ]

The bigger Wankel engines are not real gas effiecent.. powerful though.. with high RPM's... Had high hopes though for good/better milage....

This engine could, who knows, "be it"... Probably high rpm's too.. considering the description.. Who knows maybe the exhaust gases could be used for added value in following chambers/stages/cycle..

Easy to be cynical these days.. very easy.. So cynical that "THE" answer could be bypassed.. The story of how we got A/C electric instead of D/C.. is a story of "luck".. Could have taken a good while longer before A/C was adopted as the standard tranmission means/form.. All the scams makes us all cynical to some extent..

241 posted on 05/23/2006 1:16:34 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe

But the question is, who's going to put up the likely 10s of billion dollars in R&D money necessary to try and develop this thing up to a useful state where it could actually be competitive (especially cost-wise, but also for durability) with the current types of engines? How much to even just figure out if it has any chance of being viable?


242 posted on 05/23/2006 1:47:42 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: -YYZ-
[ How much to even just figure out if it has any chance of being viable? ]

They could start by making very very small electric generators.. Should sell like hotcakes.. Consider how small a engine to do this would be.. and how small the resulting unit would be.. Thats IS if it works at all.. If it does.. Would revolutionize the mobile generator industry..

After a year of that "success" you would have to create a company just to handle ALL the inquiries comeing in to be licensed just for that, so existing generator makers could compete..

Producing the money for designing other larger versions of the engine.. for yet other revolutions in engine powered stuff.. What stuff?.. Sorry I haven't time to begin to list all the possibilities..

243 posted on 05/23/2006 2:51:25 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: jbenedic2

ping for later


244 posted on 05/23/2006 2:57:08 PM PDT by jbenedic2 (Nothing new for the New York Times)
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To: Wurlitzer
My vote is to sling it onto a Harley Chasis and tranny and lets see it work in application! " Nah! It would start to leak oil.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

leak oil?

So does Iraq, but that didn't stop us there neither!

245 posted on 05/23/2006 3:08:14 PM PDT by Candor7
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To: Wurlitzer

Or, they could have them built in Britain, and it would not only leak oil, but the electrics would go out as soon as the sun set...


247 posted on 05/24/2006 12:39:56 PM PDT by jonascord ("Republic. I like the sound of the word...")
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To: jonascord
"Or, they could have them built in Britain, and it would not only leak oil, but the electrics would go out as soon as the sun set..."

Didn't think of that. They would have to make sure Lucas did not mfg the engine. I heard they built refrigerators also and thats why our friends on the other side of the pond "like" warm beer. They got used to it.

248 posted on 05/24/2006 12:49:20 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (The difference between democrats and terrorists is the terrorists don't claim to support the troops)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

I haven't seen any evidence that any working prototype has been built. Has one actually been fired up as in internal combustion engine?

The video I saw was horrible and seemed calculated to hide more than it revealed. What's with the sound track?

As some have pointed out, the Wankel engine works pretty well, but not quite well enough to be a commercial success.


249 posted on 05/24/2006 12:57:08 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: js1138
"Has one actually been fired up as in internal combustion engine?

The video I saw was horrible and seemed calculated to hide more than it revealed. What's with the sound track?

You seen what I seen. It looked like the RMP's just instantly stopped, but you can tell the engine was getting way to hot.

I am leaning towards the author of the link I shown where the claims Raphial Morgado is making are based on lack of knowledge.

250 posted on 05/24/2006 2:08:58 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
You seen what I seen. It looked like the RMP's just instantly stopped, but you can tell the engine was getting way to hot.

That was a prototype running on compressed air, not an internal combustion engine.

251 posted on 05/24/2006 2:11:48 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: js1138

aww your right.


252 posted on 05/24/2006 3:33:41 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: ovrtaxt
This type of engine if it really could work would be interesting to people building small aircraft as well. People already use Volkswagen, Subaru, and other relatively light engines in small airplanes. Something super light that can deliver a lot of torque and horsepower and that would be mass produced to bring prices down would be a big plus for the homebuilt airplane crowd and eventually even those buying certified light aircraft.
253 posted on 05/25/2006 7:17:14 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: knews_hound

Wow! That little engine has got to be one of the coolest things I have ever seen! I would love to have the tools and skills to build stuff like that.


254 posted on 05/26/2006 2:56:15 PM PDT by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: Spruce

Make sure you watch the video, I loved the lumpy cam !


255 posted on 05/26/2006 3:39:18 PM PDT by knews_hound (Driving Liberals nuts since 1975 !)
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To: ovrtaxt

"the beginning of a new paradigm"

I want money for nothin.....


256 posted on 05/26/2006 3:45:00 PM PDT by e_castillo
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To: knews_hound

Indeed! I knew a kid that had a 1970 Road Runner with a 440 six-pack, That little toy engine had the same "chuggga-de-chugga-dechugga".

I would love to have the time/shop/skill to build something like that. Really made my day.


257 posted on 05/26/2006 10:35:37 PM PDT by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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