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Fox, in U.S., says walls won't fix problem
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/23/06 | Brock Vergakis - ap

Posted on 05/23/2006 11:08:28 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SALT LAKE CITY - Kicking off a four-day, three-state tour, Mexican President Vicente Fox said Tuesday that his nation wants to be part of the solution in the immigration debate, not the problem.

"We don't set up walls, and that's not the way you're going to fix this situation," Fox said in Spanish to representatives of groups active in Utah's Mexican community. "It's not with fences that we are going to solve this problem."

There were cheers of "Viva Mexico" as Fox shook hands before leaving for an official dinner at the governor's mansion.

Earlier in the day, at a lunchtime speech to about 500 business, civic and religious leaders, Fox stressed the need for greater cooperation between his country and the U.S. on such issues as trade, energy and security.

Fox discussed his accomplishments during his six-year term, which ends this year, and promoted trade opportunities with Utah and the rest of the United States.

Working together, Mexico and the U.S. can improve the quality of life for citizens in both countries, he said.

"The future of North America must guarantee great competitiveness, greater regional security, greater availability of energy, greater trade exchanges and, naturally, a greater well-being for all of its inhabitants," said Fox, who is also scheduled to visit Washington state and California this week.

He spoke of the steps he has taken to strengthen the Mexican economy and the democratization of his country.

Fox's visit comes as the U.S. Senate considers legislation to strengthen border security, authorize new guest-worker programs and give an eventual chance at citizenship to most of the estimated 12 million people already living illegally in the United States.

Utah, like many states, is divided on immigration. While Utah's largest minority population is Hispanic, there also is growing frustration about the wave of illegal immigrants entering the state.

Jorge Fierro, a Mexican citizen who has lived in Utah since 1986, hopes Fox addresses how he and future leaders can improve the lives of Mexicans. Fierro, who is catering an address Fox is scheduled to make at Rico's Market, opened his first bean stand in 1997 and now sells Mexican food products in supermarkets throughout Utah.

"This is going to boost our morale now that our brothers and sisters are facing uncertainty in their future," Fierro said.

The Minuteman Project, which opposes illegal immigration, is planning protests at the Capitol, where Fox is scheduled to address a special session of the Legislature on Wednesday.

"I'd like to see Vicente Fox tell his people to respect the law and come here legally," said Alex Segura, founder of the Utah Minuteman Project.

About 60 opponents of illegal immigration protested near the governor's mansion before the state dinner, most arguing that Mexico's social problems should be handled by Mexico.

Alvin Lundgren, a member of the Utah Minutemen, said Fox's visit was just "the usual show and no substance."

Fox is to meet privately Wednesday with Gov. Jon Huntsman, a Republican. Huntsman supports President Bush's plan to send as many as 6,000 National Guard troops to the Mexican border and says it's important for Fox to see firsthand the frustrations Western states feel when it comes to illegal immigrants burdening health care and prison systems.

Fox also is expected to meet with leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The majority of Utah residents are Mormon, as is the Legislature and Huntsman. The Mormon church also has a strong presence in Mexico, where in 2004 membership exceeded 1 million.

Fox's itinerary in Washington state Wednesday and Thursday includes a meeting with farm workers, a dinner with the governor and breakfast with business leaders.

Later Thursday, Fox is to address a joint session of the California Legislature and meet with Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. It will be Schwarzenegger's first meeting with Fox since he became governor in 2003.

Fox also is expected to meet Friday in Los Angeles with Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: problem; walls
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Mexican President Vicente Fox watches the International Children's Choir perform during an official dinner in his honor as goose Eliza Snow watches Fox at the Utah governor's mansion Tuesday, May 23, 2006, in Salt Lake City. Fox's wife, Marta Sahagun de Fox watches, foreground, with Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman and his wife, Mary Kaye, sit at rear. (AP Photo/Douglas C. Pizac, POOL)


1 posted on 05/23/2006 11:08:28 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

earlier today

U.S., Mexico Must Work Together, Fox Says ^

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1637117/posts


2 posted on 05/23/2006 11:10:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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To: NormsRevenge

where was the 'BARF' alert?


3 posted on 05/23/2006 11:11:11 PM PDT by frankiep (Visualize Whirled Peas)
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To: NormsRevenge

One nice thing about the mexican elections is--Vicente is going to go away and not bother us anymore. If I never see the Amnesty Gigolo again, it'll be tan pronto.


4 posted on 05/23/2006 11:11:32 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: NormsRevenge

One word. Hubris.


5 posted on 05/23/2006 11:11:33 PM PDT by umgud (FR, NASCAR & 24, way too much butt time)
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Demonstrators protest against Mexican President Vicente Fox and illegal immigration in front of the Governor's Mansion while Fox and Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman dine inside Tuesday, May 23, 2006 in Salt Lake City. (AP Photo/Steve C. Wilson)


6 posted on 05/23/2006 11:12:48 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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One more shot..

AP Photo/Steve C. Wilson

7 posted on 05/23/2006 11:13:49 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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From what I've been reading about Mexico, it's close to being in total chaos, with drug runners controlling large sections of the country, and the economy close to collapse. Around 10% of Mexico's population is in the US. If the conditions get much worse, we could be looking at an immigration on the scale of what you see in African nations.

Money sent back by illegals is what's keeping the economy from totally collapsing, IMHO. If a full-scale Communist revolution breaks out, we could be looking at huge problems down there.

8 posted on 05/23/2006 11:13:50 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (I like to make everyone's day a little more surreal)
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The answer is "you keep working THE WALL until it does work.

There are other instruments that can be added to THE WALL until illegals are deterred from trying to breach THE WALL.
9 posted on 05/23/2006 11:14:01 PM PDT by SR 50 (Larry)
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"We don't set up walls, and that's not the way you're going to fix this situation,"

Translation: Any wall will stop all our unwanted from crossing the border into the US. That means I will actually have to do my job.

10 posted on 05/23/2006 11:14:42 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Condi 2008.<------added January 2004. Remember you heard it here first)
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Fox, in U.S., says walls won't fix problem

It will certainly be a good start to fixing the problem.

11 posted on 05/23/2006 11:15:28 PM PDT by Dustbunny (Amazing Grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me)
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Utah Minuteman Project member Tyler Smith, foreground left, and his wife, Megan, behind sign, protest the visit of Mexican President Vicente Fox, Tuesday, May 23, 2006, in front of the Utah Governor's Mansion in Salt Lake City, Utah. Fox, who was scheduled to attend an official dinner inside the mansion, will be in Salt Lake City for two days meeting with government and business leaders. (AP Photo by George Frey)


Utah Minuteman Project members Jeff Brueningsen, left, and Vicki Smith, center, argue with Troy Gottfredson, right, a supporter of Mexican President Vicente Fox, in front of the Utah Governor's Mansion as Fox is being hosted at a official dinner inside, Tuesday, May 23, 2006, in Salt Lake City. Fox will be in Salt Lake City for two days, meeting with government and business leaders. (AP Photo by George Frey)


12 posted on 05/23/2006 11:15:59 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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But if we build it high enough, we won't have to see the problem anymore.


13 posted on 05/23/2006 11:17:28 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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What is this ass doing here? Who invited him? It obviously wasn't the President. The timing is awfully suspicious, don't you think?

I HATE even the appearance that our government is influenced by this ignoble "pretender"!!
14 posted on 05/23/2006 11:23:28 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: Richard Kimball

Sounds like a good reason to build a long and high wall.


15 posted on 05/23/2006 11:29:47 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: NormsRevenge

"We don't set up walls, and that's not the way you're going to fix this situation,"

What do you do on your southern border Mein Herr?


16 posted on 05/23/2006 11:31:58 PM PDT by Luke21 (Democrats hate us, our heritage, and our religion. They think we belong in cages. Never forget.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Walls may not be a 100% solution, but I certainly would feel better if we had walls.


17 posted on 05/23/2006 11:35:28 PM PDT by WashingtonStateRepublican
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Working together, Mexico and the U.S. can improve the quality of life for citizens in both countries, he said.

"Working together" to build a wall is one way Mexico could improve my quality of life, taking their citizens back home is another.

18 posted on 05/23/2006 11:43:24 PM PDT by Razz Barry
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A failed leader from a stinking corrupt nation has to come to our country during the Memorial Day weekend to visit a large percentage of his citizens, many of whom are in our prisons. On Friday, getaway day, the 405 Fwy is going to be shut down for part of the day. How great is that?


19 posted on 05/23/2006 11:44:08 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time, it is the same way you start to deal with this problem, one illegal at a time. Just like here in Phoenix, Sheriff Joe, is taking them in one bunch at a time, since no one else will. He said he will keep them out of Maricopa County, AZ. I really like Joe.......
20 posted on 05/23/2006 11:46:21 PM PDT by marmar (Pray for our Warriors...they are the greatest there are............)
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