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The universe before it began
Seed Magazine ^ | 5/22/06 | Maggie Wittlin

Posted on 05/24/2006 3:59:24 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: nothingnew
"Scientists" study things they claim are trillions of years old...and never come up with an answer, just postulation. As much proof as we can come up with for there being G-D.

Scientists aren't looking for God. They are looking for mechanical explanations for things. God, by definition (and His own words if you are of a Biblical Literary mind), defies proof.

Just because it is complicated and subject to new interpretations doesn't mean it shouldn't be pursued.

41 posted on 05/24/2006 5:13:34 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death </Stewie>)
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To: LibWhacker
Since the "current" universe seems to be flying apart and showing no signs of an eventual contraction, what prevented the "prior" iteration from doing the same thing?
42 posted on 05/24/2006 5:14:41 PM PDT by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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To: GW and Twins Pawpaw
Probably not that many.
About the number of permutations
of a deck of 52 cards. (i.e. 52!)

I don't have handy the formula
that estimates factorials.

Anyway 10 to the 75 is way smaller than a googol.

43 posted on 05/24/2006 5:15:25 PM PDT by cliff630 (cliff630 (Didn't Pilate ask Christ, "What is the Truth." Even while looking in the face of TRUTH))
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To: GW and Twins Pawpaw
10 to the 75th is a lot of anything!!!!:-); Just about the same number of insignificant digits needed to statistically prove evolution!
44 posted on 05/24/2006 5:17:22 PM PDT by BillT
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To: LibWhacker
Einstein's space is curved by the presence of matter, and the volume of the universe is believed finite. Time looks straight, but not necessarily so, and our universe's future could be directly connected with its beginning.
45 posted on 05/24/2006 5:17:59 PM PDT by dr huer
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To: Gordongekko909
This implies Algore's head is going to explode as it is the densest substance imaginable.
46 posted on 05/24/2006 5:18:33 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: Publius6961

Do not question Scientific Dogma.The Inquisition is coming.


47 posted on 05/24/2006 5:18:36 PM PDT by heights
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To: LibWhacker
Ok, so now tell us where the other universe came from and how did it start? This doesn't answer any questions at all but makes more questions. This is a typical trick of scientists to make you think they have solved a big mystery when in reality they couldn't solve it so they made something up to give the illusion of solving it.

They did the same thing with the origin of life, it is impossible for it to have occured on earth the way they theorized so now "life came to earth on a meteor or some other rock from space" as if this explains it when in reality the same old question looms: How did life start?

48 posted on 05/24/2006 5:18:42 PM PDT by calex59 (No country can survive multiculturalism. Dual cultures don't mix, history has taught us that!)
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To: SauronOfMordor
This agrees with my theory:

Each of us has been reborn an infinite
number of times, Unfortunately, there is
no way to leave a trail.

49 posted on 05/24/2006 5:19:18 PM PDT by cliff630 (cliff630 (Didn't Pilate ask Christ, "What is the Truth." Even while looking in the face of TRUTH))
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To: LibWhacker

Personally, I think most of this stuff is mutual you-know-what by physicists. There are some things that just aren't knowable, and the Big Bang is one of 'em. If there even was such a thing. Unless you believe in G-d, the thought of something out of absolutely nothing is just not credible.


50 posted on 05/24/2006 5:20:30 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: cliff630

Cosmic Crumbs.


51 posted on 05/24/2006 5:20:34 PM PDT by heights
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To: cliff630
UH UH! should be a plex after googol.
a googol is 1 followed by 10 zeroes.
a googol plex is 1 followed by a googol of
of zeroes. Sorry........
52 posted on 05/24/2006 5:24:46 PM PDT by cliff630 (cliff630 (Didn't Pilate ask Christ, "What is the Truth." Even while looking in the face of TRUTH))
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To: cliff630
Probably not that many.
About the number of permutations
of a deck of 52 cards. (i.e. 52!)

Close enough for a CBO estimate of a new entitlement, 52! is a mere 8x 10^67

53 posted on 05/24/2006 5:25:38 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: nothingnew

Cue Elton John!


54 posted on 05/24/2006 5:37:48 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: dr huer
"...our universe's future could be directly connected with its beginning."

If that's the case, we've all been here before. And we will be here again, as Nietzsche predicted.

Oh. Nice to see you! Again.

55 posted on 05/24/2006 5:38:50 PM PDT by Reactionary (The Barking of the Native Moonbat is the Sound of Moral Nitwittery)
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To: Redcloak

Yeah, the Big Rip seems to be where we're headed. 'course, I don't claim to know anything about this stuff, I kinda just watch from the bleachers and follow as best I can.


56 posted on 05/24/2006 5:39:00 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: dr huer

So the universe that "came before" ours was ours?


57 posted on 05/24/2006 5:39:30 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: cliff630

Yeah, like, 25 orders of magnitude smaller. ^_^


58 posted on 05/24/2006 5:39:32 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: LibWhacker

This is not "the answer" it is just another theory without any proof!


59 posted on 05/24/2006 5:40:01 PM PDT by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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To: mountainlyons

Hence the word "theory."


60 posted on 05/24/2006 5:40:59 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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