Chimp Virus Is Linked to H.I.V.

NY Times ^ | May 26, 2006 | LAWRENCE K. ALTMAN

[John Valentine]

You seem to be informed, but at the same time you consistently refuse to listen.

I never denied that healthcare workers have been infected with HIV. It happens all the time. To what purpose do you regale me with this irrelevant fact?

Also, I have never claimed that antivirals don't work. I only point out that they do far more harm than good, since I do not beleive that there is a demonstrated causal link between HIV and AIDS.

Your point about a reduction in mortality in blood recipients is typically obtuse. Obviously, screening of blood donors will result in a reduction or elimination of HIV positive blood products and therefore its transmission to recipients. Naturally, there will be a reduction in mortality under such conditions. Thank God that Doctors aren't giving antivirals to non-HIV positive individuals.

[neverdem]

You seem to be informed, but at the same time you consistently refuse to listen.

I'm a board certified family practice doc.

Also, I have never claimed that antivirals don't work. I only point out that they do far more harm than good, since I do not beleive that there is a demonstrated causal link between HIV and AIDS.

I don't care what you believe. The preponderance of evidence does not support what you believe. I gave you at least a few solid links. You give me opinion. As the good folks in Missouri say, "Show me."

[John Valentine]

So you don't care what I believe. I'm not bothered. I DO care what you believe, especially now that I understand that you are a physician, since you are in a position to do much concrete harm or good.

I also care that I am understood and not misconstrued, so that even if you don't care what I believe, at least you'll be uncaring with a modicum of precision.

As for a place to start reaching for a more complete understanding, I suggest that you might consider reading Peter Duesberg's "Inventing the AIDS Virus", Regnery, 1996. For more robust reading, "AIDS: Virus or Drug Induced?" Kluwer Academic Publishers, 1996.

[John Valentine]

As the good folks in Missouri say, "Show me."

Try this link:

The chemical bases of the various AIDS epidemics: recreational drugs, anti-viral chemotherapy and malnutrition

[neverdem]

In addition the CDC and WHO confirm that about 2/3 of the AIDS patients in the US and 1/2 of those in Europe are male homosexuals (§ 1), but, after the lifestyle hypothesis was abandoned in 1984, they did no longer report their drug use. Page 10 of 30 from the pdf link.

That's nonsense.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hasr1302/table5.htm

Duesberg et al. completely ignore heterosexual spread of HIV/AIDS in Asia. The toxicity of DNA terminators, as Duesberg et al. call them IIRC, was well understood and readily available to all who were interested. Zidovudine, i.e. AZT, is a synthetic nucleoside analogue of thymidine. Any type of cell trying to replicate DNA is going to have a hard time.