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Wanted: 1,000 gay brothers (Barf Alert!)
In Newsweekly ^ | May 17, 2006 | Patty Caya

Posted on 05/26/2006 12:40:46 PM PDT by DBeers

Wanted: 1,000 gay brothers


Large new study that seeks to find evidence of linkages to sexual orientation requires many participants

Researchers are attempting to discover a genetic linkage to sexual orientation by studying one thousand pairs of gay brothers. This five-year study being conducted by researchers from Evanston Northwestern Healthcare Research Institute, Northwestern University and the University of Chicago will be the largest study of this kind and is sponsored by the National Institutes of Health.

This study follows a similar genetic study, conducted in the 1990s that found some genetic correlation for sexual orientation.

That original study was conducted with 40 pairs of brothers and revealed evidence that there might be a linkage. When subsequent research couldn't replicate these findings, the scientists realized that they weren't working with a large enough sample size to provide the statistical power required to advance the research.

Previous twin studies have pointed to evidence that the linkage is due to heredity rather than environmental factors, but until the researches can isolate the genes that directly affect sexual orientation, they can't be sure.

"Family studies tell you that something is familial, that things tend to cluster in families," says Dr. Alan Sanders, MD who heads the gay brothers research study. "Then we ask what else tends to cluster in families. Genes do."

There is not a lot of research in this area but, like most genetic research, it is controversial.

"Genetics is controversial, says Sanders. "And specifically sexuality research, but this is where there is a great deal of interest."

"Folks don't like this kind of research, that shows that sexual orientation is genetically based," he says. "It undermines the argument that it is a choice."

If they find a genetic link for sexual orientation, then the argument goes, you don't blame people because they have blue eyes, why would you blame them for their sexual orientation? This kind of research undermines the choice argument and that bothers some groups who are out to prove that sexual orientation is something one chooses.

The genetics that Sanders and his colleagues believe is responsible for sexual orientation is complex genetics where multiple genes and environmental factors contribute to the trait, as in the case with intelligence.

"Some folks might have enough of a genetic contribution that they are going to be very intelligent no matter what, others might have a better chance, but it will depend on key things in the environment," he says. "That's the way a lot of things are that we study,"

Researchers also say they believe that more than one gene is responsible, rather than a one-to-one correlation - as in heredity - for something like eye color.

"Genes do more than one thing," says Sanders. "They have more than one function. Maybe the gene that contributes to sexual orientation does something else as well."

He says each gene contributes a varying amount to each trait. This is especially true for behavioral traits and personality traits such as novelty seeking, aggression or violence. Not just one gene is involved.

Sanders says the biggest challenge with this kind of research is finding the one thousand pairs of gay brothers. He and his colleagues have been searching for participants for several years and have recently beefed up their recruiting efforts and expanded the search worldwide.

Participation is simple. Interested participants are first asked to fill out a brief questionnaire. Then, they submit a blood sample or DNA saliva test. "That's the hardest part, the thing that requires the most effort is having blood drawn," he says. "We're hoping to switch, to DNA samples from saliva soon. That should help out."

All information obtained from participants will be kept confidential and will not become part of any medical records Sanders says.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: aids; birthdefect; disease; homosexualagenda; junkscience; pervertperverts; perverts; pervertspervert
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To: DBeers

Scientists want to get into gay brothers genes?........


21 posted on 05/26/2006 1:03:34 PM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals ignore criminal behavior, reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: DBeers

I would submit the fact they are EXCLUDING identical twins establishes this study is 100% a waste of time.

If identical twins with identical DNA exhibit different sexual behavior then the homosexual gene premise is gone.

IOW the sample has been rigged. (and a waste of tax dollars. Seriously who put in the funding bill for this monstrous fake?)


22 posted on 05/26/2006 1:04:17 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Juana la Loca
My question is how do they separate the nature from the nurture in this scenario. Two brothers may have the same genetice code, but they also share the same environmental forces that might steer them towards homosexuality

See my post #14. The "researchers" separate nature from nurture at the outset. They will study physical characteristics that are most likely the results of a behavior (they skew the study in this direction by only sampling self declared adult homosexuals) and then they will attempt to claim physical results (a linkage) to an as yet unidentified innate "orientation"...

23 posted on 05/26/2006 1:05:16 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: DBeers

While they're at it, they need to do a new study of Gay Siamese twins. The Ben Dover Institute conducted one many years ago. It was funded by Doublemint Gum.


24 posted on 05/26/2006 1:05:21 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth to a Liberal, is like a crucifix to a vampire))))
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To: longtermmemmory

EXACTLY!!!!


25 posted on 05/26/2006 1:05:37 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: DBeers
Hmm, then is this is based on genetic makeup why not include the father? Or the mother for that matter and see if she has the hots for the same sex?

Or, better yet, just study the entire family and calculate if more than one family member enjoys ingesting feces.

26 posted on 05/26/2006 1:07:17 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (What is is about "illegal" you don't understand?)
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To: DBeers
Researchers are attempting to discover a genetic linkage to sexual orientation by studying one thousand pairs of gay brothers.

I notice they aren't talking about the sets of twins where one is a homosexual and the other isn't. Can you say 'agenda driven study'?

27 posted on 05/26/2006 1:07:50 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: DBeers
"Folks don't like this kind of research, that shows that sexual orientation is genetically based," he says. "It undermines the argument that it is a choice."

What's next, the great search for the "adultery gene"?

"See, Honey? I couldn't help myself! It's hereditary!"
28 posted on 05/26/2006 1:09:54 PM PDT by Antoninus (Ginty for US Senate -- NJ's primary day is June 6 -- www.gintyforsenate.org)
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To: SaveTheChief
It doesn't matter if it is one pair or a thousand. The researchers will conclude only what they want to conclude.

That's precisely the impression I got from this article. Activist science ain't science at all.
29 posted on 05/26/2006 1:10:58 PM PDT by Antoninus (Ginty for US Senate -- NJ's primary day is June 6 -- www.gintyforsenate.org)
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To: DBeers

We couldn't prove the results we wanted so we need more people to get the results we still won't get?


30 posted on 05/26/2006 1:11:07 PM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: DBeers
Identical (monozygotic) twins are not eligible since it is already known that their DNA (genetic material) is the same.

If it were all nature and no nurture, studies of identical twins would reveal that in ALL cases, if one was "gay", both were. Ever seen such studies done? I know they have been--it's strange that the homo-promo cheerleaders don't trot them out more often...
31 posted on 05/26/2006 1:13:38 PM PDT by Antoninus (Ginty for US Senate -- NJ's primary day is June 6 -- www.gintyforsenate.org)
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To: longtermmemmory
Next we have the FR gene.

LOL -I always like to use the analogy of seeking the "Religion Gene" with the punch line being that there are those that faithfully claim believe in a genetic basis for either the practice of Religion and or the practice of homosexual activity; HOWEVER, it is only Religious activity that is Constituionally guaranteed... Faith in homosexual activity is a non-starter...

32 posted on 05/26/2006 1:14:35 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: AppyPappy

LOL at that.

By the way, "1000 Gay Brothers" will be opening for Depeche Mode on the 15th at Jones Beach Amphitheater. Get your tickets now. /kidding.^_^


33 posted on 05/26/2006 1:16:03 PM PDT by zaxxon ("A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes ." -Mark Twain)
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To: DBeers

Wouldn't they be better served to find brothers where one is happy and the other is not ?


34 posted on 05/26/2006 1:16:33 PM PDT by stylin19a (There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't)
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To: brooklyn dave

My brother is gay.


35 posted on 05/26/2006 1:16:50 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Antoninus

You know, I would love for someone to actually do such a study --- twins, no twins, gay and not gay and delve into the issue for real.

Why?

1. To answer the question for real.

2. And hypothetically, if there was a gene that made people succeptiable to being gay, it would be likely that a vaccine could be eventually created to turn it off.

All that said, I think it is largely, if not exclusively, environment and choice.


36 posted on 05/26/2006 1:17:09 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: AppyPappy

"Genes do more than one thing," says Sanders. "They have more than one function. Maybe the gene that contributes to sexual orientation does something else as well."

He says each gene contributes a varying amount to each trait. This is especially true for behavioral traits and personality traits such as novelty seeking, aggression or violence. Not just one gene is involved.



So this guy is basically saying that homosexualuality is still a personal choice, but it's the genes that make them "snappy dressers and put the skip in thier step?


37 posted on 05/26/2006 1:17:44 PM PDT by reillygirl246
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To: longtermmemmory

"Next we have the FR gene."

Well, the libs all say we are insane and try to prove it.


38 posted on 05/26/2006 1:18:07 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: DBeers

Unless they're trying to find a way to 'repair' this gene, I don't see the point.


39 posted on 05/26/2006 1:19:35 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: DBeers

""Family studies tell you that something is familial, that things tend to cluster in families," says Dr. Alan Sanders, MD who heads the gay brothers research study. "Then we ask what else tends to cluster in families. Genes do." "

Same as alcoholism. Still doesn't mean you cannot overcome the abnormal attraction to the same sex just as you can overcome the abnormal attraction to alcohol!


40 posted on 05/26/2006 1:19:35 PM PDT by dcnd9
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