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Sensenbrenner: Those illegals have about 3 million children. We can't deport US citizens and it's impractical to deport the illegals here.

The senate bill throws up their hands and gives up. It's unfair to people who are in line to become legal immigrant.

Mexicans have to wait 16 years to become legal.

The senate bill jumps illegals ahead by 10 years.

Hagel: Our bill is 730 pages long. The house bill is 250 pages long. We do enforce the border. 500 miles of vehicle traps, etc. Our bill goes further than the house bill in some sections. No one questions enforcement. What Ronald Reagan did was amnesty. What Carter did with those who left the country rather than serve the country is amnesty.

On the front page of the NYT this morning there is an article that half the 5,000 firefighters in the west are immigrants. (But are they illegal immigrants?)


54 posted on 05/28/2006 6:07:32 AM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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BTW, Tancredo addressed the children of illegal aliens. He said children DO have US citizenship under current law but kids would go with parents if they are deported. Once 18, children could claim citizenship since they would no longer be minors.

Not sure if I like that or how it would work, but it has been discussed to some degree.


92 posted on 05/28/2006 6:19:27 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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Hagel: Our bill is 730 pages long. The house bill is 250 pages long. We do enforce the border.

That is the apprehension many have: the 1986 Bill also included border seurity. The bureaucracy, Congress or WH, however, failed to do the 'enforcement' part.

Unless the resulting bill includes mandatory enforcement, it will just turn out to be more ink on paper.
101 posted on 05/28/2006 6:22:30 AM PDT by TomGuy
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The Senate bill throws up their hands and gives up. It's unfair to people who are in line to become legal immigrants.

Very key stuff here Peach, glad you brought it up. One of the reasons/excuses for illegal Mexicons coming here is that the Mexicons want to do the jobs we don't want to do.

The bigger question however is do we exempt true potential immigrants who can do jobs in the sciences, computer industries and 20th century jobs that many industries really need for more gardeners, laborers, fruit pickers and the like.

Is that a good move for the country? Is allowing all Mexicons all the time, at any cost, for the potential sake of a few votes that may or may not go to either side, a smart move at the expense of exempting the rest of the world. Many of whom have true talents to offer us here if we let them in instead of millions of illegal Mexicons?

The whole thing is so surreal it boggles the mind when you actually look at the original purpose of immigration to the US.

130 posted on 05/28/2006 6:31:57 AM PDT by rodguy911 (support the new Media, ticket the drive-bys)
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Hagel: Our bill is 730 pages long. The house bill is 250 pages long. We do enforce the border. 500 miles of vehicle traps, etc. Our bill goes further than the house bill in some sections. No one questions enforcement. What Ronald Reagan did was amnesty. What Carter did with those who left the country rather than serve the country is amnesty.

In the Senate Bill .. Thanks to Dodds Amendment .. We have to ask Mexico first about building and kind of fence

132 posted on 05/28/2006 6:32:40 AM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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Hagel: Our bill is 730 pages long.

And this is a good thing?!?


298 posted on 05/28/2006 8:25:02 AM PDT by sgtyork (Prove to us that you can enforce the borders first.)
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