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Pace: Ongoing Probes Will Yield Facts About Haditha Incident
American Forces Press Service ^
| John D. Banusiewicz
Posted on 05/29/2006 11:22:01 AM PDT by SandRat
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To: Txsleuth
They need to be shut down by the DOJ for impeding an ongoing criminal investigation.
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posted on
05/29/2006 1:48:02 PM PDT
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: SandRat
As a former combat infantryman (11B20) this really p*sses me off. When civilians are killed by an air-strike or artillery the deaths, albeit tragic, are considered collateral damage and a natural consequence of war. When an E3 infantryman returns fire or is forced to make a split second life or death decision and there is collateral damage we bring in the media, the military lawyers and the antiwar crowd crying for their scalps. This is because our leaders (Bush included) do not have the guts or judgment that we expect from 19 year old soldiers. Happy Memorial Day.
To: SandRat
I just finished reading a piece by Victor Davis Hansen about what America has accomplished since 9/11...which was refreshing after seeing McCain's mug on TV...
He went on and on about how Rummy had screwed up by not sending in enough troops to Iraq..and how many mistakes he has made, and is continuing to make...blah, blah, blah.
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posted on
05/29/2006 1:55:10 PM PDT
by
Txsleuth
To: ktvaughn
I will continue reading them and replying to them. Promise!
It should be noted that Mr. Murtha publicly accused Gen. Pace of lying. Brave accusation knowing the general cannot publicly criticize a member of Congress. But I imagine he was thinking about Jackie when making these comments.
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posted on
05/29/2006 1:57:23 PM PDT
by
Coop
(FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
To: Natural Law
Saddly it happens to the Cops on the beat as well.
Those who've never heard the buzz of the lead bee, go past their ears or felt it's sting are always the first to cry foul because they know not of that which they speak.
In the day's of hand-wringing sob-sisters (past, present and I'm sad to say in the days yet to come), many elected Representatives of the Republic (notice I didn't say leaders) and Officers of the Republic (pampered, perfumed political, princes instead of Laurel Wreathed Commanders of the Legions) give way to the cries of the host from the Circus-Maximus instead of following Honor.
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posted on
05/29/2006 1:58:37 PM PDT
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: Natural Law
This is because our leaders (Bush included) do not have the guts or judgment that we expect from 19 year old soldiers. President Bush has more guts than you and me combined.
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posted on
05/29/2006 2:00:59 PM PDT
by
Coop
(FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
To: PogySailor; SandRat; Coop
On behalf of my wife and I, It is an honor to be able to extend my heartfelt thanks to your son for his service.
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posted on
05/29/2006 2:04:51 PM PDT
by
smoothsailing
(Support The Troops-Support The Mission http://www.irey.com)
To: smoothsailing
Thank God each generation has its heroes willing to step into uniform!
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posted on
05/29/2006 2:06:47 PM PDT
by
Coop
(FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
To: Coop; Txsleuth; smoothsailing
Thank you all for the thoughts. My son is back stateside now, but others are still in harms way. It is SHAMEFUL that Murtha is doing this. He practically has these young men convicted. What valuable the propaganda for Al Qaeda.
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posted on
05/29/2006 4:41:10 PM PDT
by
PogySailor
(Waiting for hurricane season to wash away the love bugs.)
To: PogySailor
Somehow, I don't think the more than usual killing in Iraq, on OUR Memorial Day, is a coincidence.
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posted on
05/29/2006 5:05:03 PM PDT
by
Txsleuth
To: PogySailor
Oh, and thanks for letting us know your son is home...I am so very glad to hear that...please thank him for me.
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posted on
05/29/2006 5:06:16 PM PDT
by
Txsleuth
To: Natural Law
When an E3 infantryman returns fire or is forced to make a split second life or death decision and there is collateral damage we bring in the media, the military lawyers and the antiwar crowd crying for their scalps. This is because our leaders (Bush included) do not have the guts or judgment that we expect from 19 year old soldiers.
Exactly!!!
To bad the media is not asking why the Iranians are not putting together a commission to investigate the terrorist acts by Iranians in Iraq.
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posted on
05/29/2006 5:30:49 PM PDT
by
TomasUSMC
((FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.))
To: SandRat
Make a repeat on Monte-Casino of it you say????
Well thats a good start, but to much ruble left, leveling and salting like the Romans did at Carthage would be preferable.
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posted on
05/29/2006 5:34:34 PM PDT
by
TomasUSMC
((FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.))
To: PogySailor
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posted on
05/29/2006 5:44:54 PM PDT
by
freema
(Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
To: SandRat
If Marines were set up by insurgents, they could be holding the survivors/neighbors 'hostage' Threatening them with some of their jolly little treats.
Of course, the Marines could be guilty...
of trying to save their own lives.
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posted on
05/29/2006 5:48:41 PM PDT
by
freema
(Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
To: Coop
LOL--fine my friend. God Bless our troops--and you.
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posted on
05/29/2006 6:09:57 PM PDT
by
ktvaughn
(I avoid cliches like the plague...)
To: SandRat
Needless to say, I don't know what happened in Haditha.
But I'm inclined to give the Marines the benefit of the doubt until something solid appears.
I remember last year when the media tried to nail a Lt. Pantano on similar charges, before he was ultimately exonerated. I would think that the same result is likely here.
My guess as to what happened? They failed in their efforts against Pantano, they're coming back with something else against different men.
To: I_Like_Spam
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posted on
05/29/2006 8:27:01 PM PDT
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: Coop
There was a time when I would have agreed with you, but not now. Just like the Vietnam War where I was betrayed by our government our current desire to fight a kinder, gentler war is costing lives. I had a good friend seriously wounded and was refused permission to return fire. I see the same thing happening now.
1) We have already been there longer than WWII.
2) There is no real De-Baathification program. Saddam and his henchmen are still alive.
3) We tolerate, and even promote the religious fanatics and militias that are killing our GIs. Muktada al Sadr is still alive and causing problems
5) I can count of at least 5 public incidents were front line soldiers have had legal actions initiated for combat related incidents.
To: ALOHA RONNIE
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