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To: jveritas
Listen Marli, you start sounding like a DUmmy troll here, just be careful.

And you sound like someone who wants to deny that something very serious happened here.

And lay off the "DU troll" nonsense. Somebody(s) lost control and may have killed 24 innocent civilians for no reason.

This incident is only now being investigated because it was hidden from the higher ups at the Pentagon for over three months.

If what is alleged happened, this is Abu Ghraib times ten.

27 posted on 05/29/2006 6:33:55 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: sinkspur; jveritas

Marli has been banned; troll.


34 posted on 05/29/2006 6:35:58 PM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: sinkspur
Key word is "IF" sink, and there are people who are considering them guilty before they have had achance to defend themselves, Fot that MF matter, before they are even charged.

Put your hair out Sink, the facts are not out yet, don't be a tool for the left!

37 posted on 05/29/2006 6:36:24 PM PDT by MJY1288 (THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
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To: sinkspur; Coop; jveritas; Marli
"Somebody(s) lost control and may have killed 24 innocent civilians for no reason."

Perhaps you should start writing for the msm yourself. So far, the only info that we have that a crime was committed is from the msm, iraqis, politicians and "unamed" defense members, all with 0 credibility. 'Course you seem to have bought it.

Me? I'll wait for the courts martial, the evidence and the sworn testimony under oath.

Perhaps you read Lt. Pantano's letter to murtha today? If not I suggest you do.

63 posted on 05/29/2006 6:49:42 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: sinkspur
If this is true then this was just an incident and not what so ever a behavior of our troops in Iraq as the media is saying and is going to say in the coming weeks. I know that you agree with me on this but we have to go on the offensive on this one rather than the defensive. As I said before the rarity if incidents like this one is a great testimony for the extreme discipline and professionalism of our troops, of course IF, big IF, a handful of marines killed the civilians in Haddytha.
66 posted on 05/29/2006 6:50:25 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: sinkspur
This incident is only now being investigated because it was hidden from the higher ups at the Pentagon for over three months.

Hidden? So then why the photos from the second unit, Sink? You've been falling all over yourself to blame these Marines for murder, and I find your behavior despicable.

77 posted on 05/29/2006 6:56:01 PM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: sinkspur
And you sound like someone who wants to deny that something very serious happened here.

OK something serious did happen here and the truth is that what that something actually consists of remains in dispute. We have a path to get from where we stand now to the reality. It is called innocent until proven guilty thru the presentation of evidence at a fair trial.

And lay off the "DU troll" nonsense.

Troll or no troll I find myself agreeing with you on this one. Troll status should be left to the Mods,they cull them quite nicely. But hey that is just my worthless opinion.

Somebody(s) lost control and may have killed 24 innocent civilians for no reason.

GEE, for a second there I thought you were referring to every roadside bomb that goes off, every car bomb that blasts a market, or maybe a suicide bomber that blows up a religious dinner in Tel Aviv.

Funny how the World jumps at every possible thing when the USA military was anywhere near and demonizes the entire armed forces as if one incident equates to the general practice of the entire military, but fails to recognize that EVERY attack waged by our enemy has that very endgame as their goal. Why is it that their actions are dismissed when they ARE doing this at every turn but when the USA has something that even LOOKS bad it IS credited to general practice?

This incident is only now being investigated because it was hidden from the higher ups at the Pentagon for over three months.

Maybe ,just maybe it is being investigated as it is now becasue blind malicious claims have been made and further evidence is needed to show innocence of our soldiers? A Certain DUKE case comes to mind on that note. I am not saying I know one way or the other what happened, simply because I have no way of knowing either way. Undoubtedly though, I will side with soldiers until shown reasons not to do so. I sure wish others would do the same.

If what is alleged happened, this is Abu Ghraib times ten.

Would you go so far as to apply that same mantra to the acts of our enemies on a daily basis? Would you say every one of their attacks rises to the level of Abu Graib times ten? WOW, where is the world outrage man? Indeed where is yours and the comments towards them like the ones you make here towards the US military?

Sure seems to me that in this one simple post you expose the very giblets of your position and that of much of the American left. Focus on the USA, hammer it unrelentingly based on the almighty "IF", ignore all context and the fact no guilty verdict has been handed down while totally dismissing what it is our enemies do every damn day. Rediculous, absolutely rediculous and as transparent as it gets!
170 posted on 05/29/2006 7:43:53 PM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: sinkspur

Agreed.

BTW, Has anyone ever seen the "other" Abu Ghraib photos, the ones that show the dead bodies? I'm curious because this is something I had never heard of before (other than Lindsey Graham's fleeting statement) but recently I saw those photos with the same soldiers posing in the "harmless" photos. It looks like real torture and murder and that's what Sen. Graham was alleging as well. Why did we never hear this before and where did the heck did this guy (Alex Jones) get these pictures from?

Just checked Google Images and some of the photos are indeed posted.

http://images.google.com/images?q=Abu+Ghraib&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

Does anyone else know about this and perhaps there is another explanation for these pictures that has been proffered? I have to admit, they have shaken my faith badly in what I thought that I knew about Abu Ghraib.


183 posted on 05/29/2006 7:54:02 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: sinkspur

Why are you so ready and willing to believe Jonathan karl and ABC for this story??? I do NOT believe that MARINES would kill 24 innocent people....why are you?


210 posted on 05/29/2006 8:16:01 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: sinkspur
Somebody(s) lost control and may have killed 24 innocent civilians for no reason.

How do you know someone lost control? Sounds like you have already convicted the Marines.

Perhaps they did the deed, but Muslims are masters at staging "massacres". So let's wait until the investigation is done!

254 posted on 05/29/2006 8:42:17 PM PDT by F-117A
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To: sinkspur

Abu Ghraib times ten.


times ten??? get a grip... this is war, dammit..if those Marines feared for their lives in ANY way...they were justified!!!!


357 posted on 05/29/2006 10:11:14 PM PDT by justkillingtime
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