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US 'takes the leap' to offer Iran talks on nuclear trials
The Times ^ | June 1, 2006 | Tom Baldwin

Posted on 05/31/2006 11:49:20 PM PDT by MadIvan

PRESIDENT BUSH said yesterday that the United States was ready to “take the leap” and hold face-to-face talks with Iran for the first time in 27 years, provided that the country suspends its nuclear programme.

The decision comes before today’s crunch meeting in Vienna where Russia, China, France and Germany, as well as the US and Britain, will try to agree a “carrot-and-stick” approach for solving the nuclear stand-off with Iran. This focuses on an offer to reprocess nuclear fuel outside Iran, as well economic benefits to the regime, if it scraps its uranium enrichment programme.

Mr Bush, who held lengthy discussions on the issue with Tony Blair last week in Washington, disclosed yesterday that he had spoken over recent days to Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, President Chirac of France and President Putin of Russia.

Condoleezza Rice, the US Secretary of State, said before her departure to Vienna: “It’s time to know whether Iran is serious about negotiation or not.” She added that there was “substantial agreement and understanding that Iran now faces a clear choice”.

China and Russia have previously been stalling on the prospect of imposing sanctions against Iran through the UN Security Council. Although no deal has yet been struck over the precise details of the proposals, diplomatic sources said yesterday that there had been “surprising” and “substantial” progress during talks between officials of the six nations in London last week.

Iran insists that its uranium enrichment and reprocessing programme is solely for peaceful purposes but the West is convinced that President Ahmadinejad’s regime is intent on developing a nuclear weapon.

Mr Bush again emphasised his commitment yesterday to finding a negotiated solution, but added: “What you’re seeing is robust diplomacy.” He said that if Iran agreed to suspend its programme immediately, “we will come to the table — I thought it was important for the US to take the leap”.

Until now, the US Administration has spurned pleas from European leaders to participate — on the ground that it could provide added legitimacy to a regime that was a named member of Mr Bush’s “axis of evil”.

Dr Rice described the US decision to take its place at the negotiating table with the “EU3” — Britain, France and Germany — as removing the “last excuse” for talks to fail. Asked whether the US would be willing to re-establish diplomatic relations with Iran, she ruled out a “grand bargain”, but said that a negotiated solution to the dispute could “begin to change the relationship”.

Iran’s first response came from the official news agency IRNA: “Given the insistence by Iranian authorities on continuing uranium enrichment, [Dr] Rice’s comments can be considered propaganda moves,” it stated.

Dr Rice again made clear that the US would take whatever measures it thought necessary to counter a “direct threat” to its “vital interests”. A senior Pentagon source has told The Times that Mr Bush is working on a “short timetable” to see whether negotiations succeed.

Other sources say improved intelligence on Iran’s nuclear programme has increased the chance of it being neutralised by an airstrike and a decision on whether UN sanctions — or a package agreed between Europe, Japan and America — is a workable solution will be made by the end of this year.

Iran voluntarily suspended its nuclear programme while talks were active with the Europeans last year, but resumed and stepped up those activities this spring. Some experts fear that it is three years away from developing a weapon.

Margaret Beckett, the Foreign Secretary, said: “We are all striving to reach a diplomatic solution. The European side’s goal is to present a serious and substantial offer of cooperation, which demonstrates to Iran the benefits that would flow from compliance rather than the further isolation which would result from their failure to do so.

The fresh hope for a negotiated solution in the Middle East helped to cause US stocks to rise sharply. The price of crude oil fell by more than 2 per cent.

BAD BLOOD

January 1979 US-backed Shah forced into exile

November 1979 New leader Ayatollah Khomeini calls US “Great Satan”. Tehran US Embassy stormed, 52 hostages held for 444 days

April 1980 US hostage rescue attempt ends with eight servicemen dead

Nov 1986 Iran-Contra scandal breaks. US sold arms to Iran to free hostages in Lebanon

July 1988 US warship mistakenly shoots down Iranian airliner, killing 290

Jan 2002 President Bush calls Iran, Iraq and North Korea the “axis of evil”


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; nukes; us
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I was hoping today's date was April 1, as opposed to June 1.

Recently I've been watching my videos of documentaries about World War II; this gives me the same feeling as I had watching the segment about the negotations at Munich.

Don't give them a single millimetre, Mr. President.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 05/31/2006 11:49:24 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Texican; Watery Tart; Jersey Republican Biker Chick; Laurita; Semper911; lutz; Deetes; Barset; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 05/31/2006 11:50:06 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

Bush knows jolly well that Ahmajihading won't accept anything that puts the brakes on Iran nuke aspirations. He's gotta go through this charade and many others so that when the Iran-under-glass party finally comes, the world will be more or less on board.


3 posted on 05/31/2006 11:53:36 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: The Red Zone
My concern is that it should be clear already that Iran is not going to back down from its nuclear ambitions. The Russians have offered plan after plan only to have them rejected. Diplomacy has failed. We cannot afford to delay much longer.

Regards, Ivan

4 posted on 05/31/2006 11:55:21 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

Perhaps our willingness to go to the table with Iran is what the Chinese and Russians need in order for us to get them on our side in dealing with Iran.


5 posted on 05/31/2006 11:56:20 PM PDT by marvlus
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I don't think so. The Russians and Chinese are bribed.

Regards, Ivan

6 posted on 05/31/2006 11:57:16 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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7 posted on 05/31/2006 11:57:29 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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ON THE NET...

COUNTERTERRORISM BLOG.org: "GERMANY AND JIHAD" by Jeffrey Imm (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "With the World Cup opening June 9 in Munich, Germany is having an increasing problem with the growth of radical Islamism.") (May 30, 2006)

JIHAD WATCH.org (SPIEGEL ONLINE): "GERMAN WOMEN VOWED TO MOUNT SUICIDE ATTACKS IN IRAQ" (May 30, 2006)

JIHAD WATCH.org (AP): Berlin, Germany - "'5,000 SUICIDE BOMBERS IN GERMANY'" (September 13, 2005)

Davids MEDIENKRITIK: "NEO-NAZIS: SHOULD TOURISTS BE AFRAID?" (May 21, 2006)



JIHAD WATCH.org: "READY FOR THE SOCCER JIHAD?" (May 29, 2006)

INTERNET-HAGANAH.com: "ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?" (May 28, 2006)

TRAVEL.STATE.GOV: "WORLD CUP 2006 FACT SHEET"

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A Discussion on FreeRepublic.com regarding a May 30, 2006 Der Spiegel article - Interview with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: "'WE ARE DETERMINED'" (May 29, 2006)

MEMRI.org: "IRAN"



JIHAD WATCH.org: "IRAN'S SUICIDE BOMBERS THREATEN TO STRIKE U.S. INTERESTS" (May 26, 2006)

JIHAD WATCH.org (AKI): Tehran - "'We have brothers who are ready to sacrifice their lives for the triumph of Islam in Great Britain, France, Belgium, Spain, Italy, the Netherlands and also the United States'" (May 27, 2006)

JIHAD WATCH.org (AP): Ankara, Turkey: "REPORT: MISSILE PARTS, 'DUAL-USE' MATERIALS ILLEGALLY SHIPPED TO IRAN THROUGH TURKEY" (May 26, 2006)

INTELLIGENCE-SUMMIT.blogspot.com (ISN SECURITY WATCH): "RUSSIA CONFIRMS IRAN AIR DEFENSE SALE" (May 26, 2006)

8 posted on 05/31/2006 11:58:51 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Liberty Valance

9 posted on 05/31/2006 11:59:59 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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Let's see, didn't Klintoon give N. Korea a zillion tons of food and oil in return for a commie promise to stop its nuke program? Look what it got him.

Iran, Syria, North Korea same-O-same-O. This is the big stall.

yitbos

10 posted on 06/01/2006 12:02:19 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Liberty Valance

11 posted on 06/01/2006 12:02:23 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: bruinbirdman
It's time to ask that eternally useful question, "What would Winston do?"

He would have attacked Iran long ago, in my opinion.

Regards, Ivan

12 posted on 06/01/2006 12:04:31 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/05/20060531-4.html

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
May 31, 2006

"Press Briefing by Tony Snow"
James S. Brady Briefing Room
1:07 P.M. EDT

PRESS BRIEFING SNIPPET: "As I mentioned earlier in the day, Secretary Rice gave a speech and she was outlining United States' continued efforts to persuade Iran to suspend any enrichment and enrichment-related and reprocessing efforts when it comes to nuclear programs of the Iranian government. And that has attracted a certain amount of interest. And with that, I will turn it over for questions. Terry."


13 posted on 06/01/2006 12:04:37 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Liberty Valance

14 posted on 06/01/2006 12:04:51 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: MadIvan

Come into my parlour said the ayatollah - I mean spider to the fly.


The upside of this is Rice has been getting some VERY good publicity.
She is extremely well-spoken, articulate, intelligent and easy on the ears as well as the eyes.

Pence, Rice, Allen - maybe Romney = the Repubs best hopes in 2008.

Lately the Dems seem to acquired the Republican trait of sticking their feet in their mouths and falling on their swords.

If Algore the nutjob, Kerry the Liar, and Hillery the wicked witch of the west are the best they can recycle, they may self-destruct in 2008. But the Republican President could be facing a nest of venomous Dems and RINOs in COngress.


15 posted on 06/01/2006 12:20:35 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: MadIvan

Heck, MadIvan, this is just good old American Poker.

The Iranians send a private letter to the President stating unpublished demands.

The President publicly says 'Raise'.


Never play Poker with a Texan.



16 posted on 06/01/2006 12:30:34 AM PDT by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: MadIvan
>>My concern is that it should be clear already that Iran is not going to back down from its nuclear ambitions. The Russians have offered plan after plan only to have them rejected. Diplomacy has failed. We cannot afford to delay much longer.

Regards, Ivan<<

I would worry too much about this - its not a real offer - we are just trying to get debate momentum on our side - unfortunately its pretty transparent - I don't think it will help much, if any.
17 posted on 06/01/2006 12:47:15 AM PDT by gondramB (We may have done a lill' bit of fightin amongst ourselves but you outside people best leave us alone)
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To: MadIvan

Stop wasting time and start wasting the Iranian Mullahs.


18 posted on 06/01/2006 1:08:18 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ((FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.))
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To: MadIvan
...hold face-to-face talks with Iran for the first time in 27 years, provided that the country suspends its nuclear programme.

And here I thought we weren't in the business of dealing with terrorists! Hmmmm...

I guess dealing with Abu Mazen and company got 'em used to it...

19 posted on 06/01/2006 1:12:52 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: ZULU

If Algore the nutjob, Kerry the Liar, and Hillery the wicked witch of the west are the best they can recycle, they may self-destruct in 2008.

The Dim public sector get the leaders they deserve. Let's pray they don't become everyones leaders.


20 posted on 06/01/2006 1:15:30 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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