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1 posted on 06/03/2006 8:26:23 AM PDT by Carl/NewsMax
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Haditha didn't state if any other family members were aware of the bomb?Well,if 12 year old Haditha knew about an impending explosion out front of her home,rest assured the rest of the family was aware of it too.


29 posted on 06/03/2006 8:42:46 AM PDT by Thombo2
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"And my brother Muhammad was hiding under the bed when the U.S. military hit him with the butt of the gun and the started shooting him under the bed. The U.S. military then shot me and I was showered in blood. We couldn't leave the house because the U.S. military surrounded the area with a large number of soldiers."

Strange wording. Sounds coached to me, a 12 year old would have just called them soldiers, IMHO..

33 posted on 06/03/2006 8:44:33 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mcarthy-Gore-Clinton-Feingold-Murtha- Pelosi-the true Axis of Evil...)
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Younis said she survived by pretending to be dead.

Was she the one with he shrapnel wound?

35 posted on 06/03/2006 8:45:33 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make them go home!!)
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Younis said she survived by pretending to be dead.

This whole thing stinks of a pre-Hollywood movie gone bad.

45 posted on 06/03/2006 8:52:27 AM PDT by ThreePuttinDude ()....tag line under consideration...... ()
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In a CNN interview broadcast Wednesday, Safa Younis - who says eight members of her family were killed by U.S. troops - recalled that she was getting ready for school as the Marine Humvee approached.

"I was planning to go to school. I was about to go out of bed. I knew the bomb would explode so I covered my ears," the youngster said, according to a CNN translator.

What strikes me as odd here is that she knew it was going to happen. That means that either she is lying, OR, that the Marines are "on a schedule" with these routs. If the former, then 'nuff said. If the latter however, then who the hell's in charge over there ensuring that routes are regular and that they occur at about the same time daily?

That's the very first thing in the intelligence business that they tell you to avoid, regular schedule an patterned behavior!

47 posted on 06/03/2006 8:54:08 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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Haditha: On the Ground  Rick Leventhal  Fox News  6-1-06

Be sure to watch Leventhal's interview with John Gibson at Video: Haditha link.

56 posted on 06/03/2006 8:58:23 AM PDT by windchime (democrats: No Hope....All Hate)
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Haditha ping.


57 posted on 06/03/2006 8:58:47 AM PDT by KJC1
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and then my Mommy said "Time for your haircut cutie."...


59 posted on 06/03/2006 9:00:38 AM PDT by petercooper (Cemeteries & the ignorant - comprising 2 of the largest Democrat voting blocs for the past 75 years.)
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You got the story wrong. 9y/o Eman Waleed Talked about covering her ears for the bomb that hit the vehicle. Safa Younis was from the 2nd house.


60 posted on 06/03/2006 9:01:55 AM PDT by spunkets
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Haditha Child: I Knew of Bomb Plot to Kill Marines ping!


67 posted on 06/03/2006 9:14:35 AM PDT by TexKat
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Russian embassy employee shot dead in Baghdad

Sat Jun 3, 2006 9:34 PM IST

By Fredrik Dahl and Michael Georgy

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Gunmen killed one Russian embassy employee and kidnapped four others in Baghdad on Saturday, Russian and Iraqi officials said, in the latest attack on foreigners in the lawless capital.

A car bomb in the southern city of Basra killed at least 15 people and wounded 30, police said. It came three days after new Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki announced a security crackdown there.

Continue

75 posted on 06/03/2006 9:26:11 AM PDT by TexKat
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"But the "innocent" Haditha 12-year-old ..."

What part of the #&%$ing world do liberals think we're dealing with? Does age prove innocence?

There are hundreds of similar photos on line!

76 posted on 06/03/2006 9:28:33 AM PDT by drpix
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"I was planning to go to school. I was about to go out of bed. I knew the bomb would explode so I covered my ears," the youngster said, according to a CNN translator.

I don't give a flying f--- if civilians knew of the bomb. Nothing short of a direct threat from armed civilians justifies slaughtering them.

80 posted on 06/03/2006 9:34:46 AM PDT by jude24 ("I said the law was powerless to help you, not punish you." - Chief Wiggam)
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Iman Walid Abdul-Hameed, a 9-year-old girl who said she was in the house when the shootings occurred, said her brother and several other relatives were killed.

"We want the Americans to be hurt just like us," she told the cameraman from her cousin's house, where she is now living.

In one of the homes, Marines ordered four brothers inside a closet and shot them dead, said the Haditha lawyer, Khaled Salem Rsayef.

Rsayef said several of his relatives _ including a sister, brother-in-law, aunt, uncle and several cousins _ were killed. He and his brother, Salam Salem Rsayef, spoke to The Associated Press by telephone from the Euphrates River town of 90,000 late Thursday and Friday.

Despite the Iraqi government's insistence of cooperation between the U.S. and Iraqi investigations, the Rsayefs said they and other victims' families refused the request several months ago to exhume the bodies, which is prohibited in Islam.

The Rsayef brothers met at least four times with U.S. military investigators looking into the killings. They said the meetings began in February and were held at Samarra General Hospital. The next meeting is scheduled for Sunday, the two brothers said, suggesting that the U.S. investigations are not finished.

Khaled Salam Rsayef identified the four brothers killed in the closet as a car dealer, a traffic policeman, an engineer and a local government employee. He said the U.S. military did not compensate their families because the brothers were believed to be insurgents.

The lawyer said his account of what happened was based on his personal observations from the rooftop of his home and windows. He said his house is several dozen yards away from the three homes raided by Marines. The killings, which he did not witness in person, were recounted to him and other members of his family the following day by survivors, he said.

Iraqi Condemns Probe Clearing U.S. Troops

84 posted on 06/03/2006 9:39:13 AM PDT by TexKat
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"The bomb [then] exploded," she explained. "The bomb struck an armored vehicle. I don't know if it was a Humvee or an armored vehicle. When the bomb exploded, they came straight to my house."

Why did they go straight to HER house? Was it the only house in the area?

107 posted on 06/03/2006 10:37:46 AM PDT by SuziQ
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Watch the video by the "Iraqi Civil Rights Group" here.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/05/31/haditha/index.html

Video on lower right hand side of the screen. Called "Haditha Uncovered.

Even by the admitted ultra low standards of the American Big "News" media this is pretty obvious propaganda.

You tell me how the Iraqi boy in the video got shot by US Marines right over his spine and isn't at a minimum crippled for life, and maybe I will doubt. Until someone can explain this miraculous recovery, I say PURE BS. Terrorist Propaganda swallowed hook, line and sinker by the Hate America Leftist and their Junk Journalist Toady's.
108 posted on 06/03/2006 10:38:51 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (I would rather be an Iraqi in a Hidatha guarded by Marines, then a subject of Al-Qeda anywhere.)
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If this is true, it is no reason to kill children. Still, being in the situation is different from discussing it from our safe comfortable homes. I can see the other side. How some marines could have "lost it" in the heat of the passion. Sad all around.

If they did do this, it was wrong. But it was more wrong for the adults of this household to put their children and other family members at such risk. At the very least, they should have moved family out of harm's way if they are going to be war participants. You don't go to war hiding behind your children.


114 posted on 06/03/2006 11:27:20 AM PDT by Lorianne
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The plot thickens...


116 posted on 06/03/2006 11:48:12 AM PDT by veronica ("A person needs a sense of mission like the air he breathes...")
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The way that this "story" is starting to unravel leads me the conclusion that one (or more) of the Marines involved in the alleged incident must have said something that at least appeared to incriminate him/them. If not, then I can only assume that the previous "investigations" were extremely cursory, and don't match the "evidentiary" standards that would get someone convicted in a US court (civilian or military). In other words, the only reason this "investigation" hasn't already been dropped is Iraqi "political" sensibilities. What amazes me is how the Iraqi Police are always "johnny on the spot" for these "massacres" in areas that they're otherwise afraid to be seen.
117 posted on 06/03/2006 11:48:23 AM PDT by pawdoggie
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This statement by the "witness" raises all sorts of doubts about the credibility of the Murtha-jihadist propaganda version of the story, as you well know. If a 12 year old knew about the IED then others in the house surely did, too. Were some of her family members involved, or did they 'merely' see the jihadists setting up the IED? They knew a 500 lb. bomb was going to go off in front of their house and they did not flee the area?????? Anyone would know that all hell would break loose after the explosion, with a likely firefight and home searches, etc. Either the family was being kept their against their will in order to become victims, or else they were part of the plot. This all smells like a jihadist agit-prop set-up.


118 posted on 06/03/2006 12:24:08 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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