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Bush is the Next Reagan
Persian Journal ^ | Jun 4, 2006 | Slater Bakhtavar

Posted on 06/04/2006 2:24:14 PM PDT by nuconvert

Bush is the Next Reagan

Jun 4, 2006

Slater Bakhtavar - Persian Journal

The same people who heavily criticized former President Reagan for his tough stance against Communism and for his aggressive push for democracy in Eastern Europe are now attacking President Bush for his tough stance against fundamentalism and his aggressive push for democracy in the Middle East.

-They argued then that Communism would never fall - it did They argue now that Islamic Fundamentalism will never fall - it will

-They argued then that the Soviet Union is too strong - it wasn't

They argue now that the insurgency is too strong - it isn't

-They argued that Reagans vision of democracy in East Europe would never work - it did

They argue now that Bushs vision of democracy for the mid-east would never work - it will

They argued then that Reagans evil empire speech was a failure - it wasn't

They argue now that Bushs axis of evil speech is a failure - it won't be

-They argued then that former soviet bloc countries wouldn't embrace democracy - they did

They argue now that middle east countries would never embrace democracy - they will

-They argued then that Eastern Europeans nations would never be our allies - they are

They argue now that middle eastern countries will never be our allies - they will be

-They argued then that people without God could never embrace democracy - they did

They argue now that Muslims will never embrace democracy - they will

-They argued then that President Reagan was unrealistic - he wasn't

They argue now that President Bush is unrealistic - he'll prove he isn't

-They argued then democracy isn't universal to former Communists - it was

They argue now democracy isn't universal to Middle Easterners - it will be

-They argued then that funding of pro-democracy groups in Eastern European countries won't work - it did

They argue now that funding of pro-democracy groups won't work in the Middle East - it will

The same exact critcism was directed at Reagan. The future will be the judge of President Bush and my guess is that he will be judged as the Great Liberator of the Middle East.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; bushdoctrineunfolds; deify; democracy; liberators; middleeast; reagan; spendalot; strongleader; weakposters; worstprezever
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1 posted on 06/04/2006 2:24:17 PM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

BTTT!

Great comparisons!


2 posted on 06/04/2006 2:25:25 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: nuconvert



A lot are hopeful,
count me one !!!!


3 posted on 06/04/2006 2:26:32 PM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: nuconvert

Someone gets it.


4 posted on 06/04/2006 2:27:29 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make them go home!!)
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To: IrishMike

Count me two.


5 posted on 06/04/2006 2:28:45 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Dog; Coop; Valin; freedom44; Pan_Yans Wife; Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith

pong


6 posted on 06/04/2006 2:29:23 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: nuconvert

History will be kind to our President Bush.. and the Chamberlains of the world will be just that.. a heap of cowardice that bit the dust in history's writings


7 posted on 06/04/2006 2:30:54 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: nuconvert
They said Reagan was wrong to fight communism worldwide. He wasn't.

They say Bush is wrong to make the War on Terror a worldwide struggle. He's not!
8 posted on 06/04/2006 2:31:25 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: StJacques

My view(s) also!!!!


9 posted on 06/04/2006 2:32:27 PM PDT by Blake#1
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To: nuconvert

While I'm not in agreement with everything done by this president, keep in mind that, during his administration, many on the right criticized Reagan for not being tough enough on communism. Quite a different persepective in hindsight.


10 posted on 06/04/2006 2:32:57 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: nuconvert
"The same people who heavily criticized former President Reagan for his tough stance against Communism and for his aggressive push for democracy in Eastern Europe are now attacking President Bush for his tough stance against fundamentalism and his aggressive push for democracy in the Middle East."

BS. (very) few moderate/conservative Republicans would argue that the President is doing an EXCELLENT job on the WOT, judiciary, etc. The areas of improvement are spending and immigration.

11 posted on 06/04/2006 2:34:05 PM PDT by jdm
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To: Cinnamon
History will be kind to our President Bush.. and the Chamberlains of the world will be just that.. a heap of cowardice that bit the dust in history's writings

Despite what all the naysayers, on both the right and left, claim, President Bush will be well regarded by history.

I know this for a fact as I will be one of those writing it.

12 posted on 06/04/2006 2:35:16 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Every person has a photographic memory - but some don't have their flash card installed.)
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To: Howlin

FYI


13 posted on 06/04/2006 2:39:29 PM PDT by Kay
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To: OldFriend

Count me three


14 posted on 06/04/2006 2:40:26 PM PDT by gwb43_2004 (I love W)
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To: jdm

"BS. (very) few moderate/conservative Republicans would argue that the President is doing an EXCELLENT job on the WOT,..."

I didn't see the word "excellent" in the author's sentence that you quoted.
Would you care to nitpick any of the others?


15 posted on 06/04/2006 2:41:52 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: gwb43_2004

I agree on Terrorism and much of W's other efforts, but there are those that I don't. Chiefly among them is immigration; and, on this he will not win, nor will he go down in history as a winner, period.


16 posted on 06/04/2006 2:42:29 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: onyx

Ping to you.


17 posted on 06/04/2006 2:43:20 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Every person has a photographic memory - but some don't have their flash card installed.)
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To: Cinnamon

History may be kind, but his poll numbers look like his "Read my lips no new taxes daddy's numbers.

He can't hold a candle to Reagan. But then again, very, very, few can.


18 posted on 06/04/2006 2:45:59 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Gaffer

Just curious, what did you think of Reagan?


19 posted on 06/04/2006 2:47:58 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: tennmountainman

Truman had poll numbers in the low 20's but history has since given him a very favorable rating.


20 posted on 06/04/2006 2:48:31 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Every person has a photographic memory - but some don't have their flash card installed.)
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To: COEXERJ145

Truman is not even in the top 10 presidents.


21 posted on 06/04/2006 2:49:59 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: nuconvert
"They argue now that Muslims will never embrace democracy - they will"

I am not convinced that Shi'ite and Sunni Islam is compatible with democracy.
22 posted on 06/04/2006 2:51:07 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: nuconvert

Liberator


24 posted on 06/04/2006 2:52:48 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: tennmountainman
Depends on who you ask.

He never makes it on polls or surveys (99% of the time it is the same 10 over and over) but most historians, across the political spectrum, rate Truman very positively.

25 posted on 06/04/2006 2:52:49 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Every person has a photographic memory - but some don't have their flash card installed.)
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To: ChadGore
Avenger of the Bones

26 posted on 06/04/2006 2:55:01 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: nuconvert

It is stunning to me how the exact same groups that squealed like little piggies about President Reagan "going soft and selling out" in his second term are squealing like little piggies about President Bush "going soft and selling out" in his second term.

Do we have disagreements with this President? Of course. All of us have disagreements with every President—some more than others. But those that refuse to pay attention and learn from the past will end up being just as irrelevant in the future.

Fortunately, both President Reagan and President Bush are not those kind of leaders.


27 posted on 06/04/2006 2:55:40 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Gaffer

And it will not matter...much in the same way it does not matter with President Reagan.


28 posted on 06/04/2006 2:57:08 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: nuconvert

I'm witchoo.


29 posted on 06/04/2006 3:00:32 PM PDT by karnage
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To: COEXERJ145

attaboy!


30 posted on 06/04/2006 3:01:34 PM PDT by karnage
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To: nuconvert; pinz-n-needlez; onyx; ohioWfan; Texasforever; BigSkyFreeper; Dog; My2Cents; Howlin; ...
The same exact critcism was directed at Reagan

Someone has been paying attention to history ping

31 posted on 06/04/2006 3:01:56 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: jdm

Since the article uses the comparison that Bush is the next Reagan...

I would think that for those that hate his stance, would REALLY see the comparison, correct?


32 posted on 06/04/2006 3:07:10 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: nuconvert
Though the threat was of a different type, the menace to the West from international Communism was far greater than the current challenge in the WOT. We were up against nuclear-armed regimes who had diplomatic missions and well-funded intel agencies. And they were internally police-states which were very difficult for our intel to penetrate with live operatives.

And he did it with Dim majorities in Congress throwing spears at him all the way and, except for Paul Harvey and a few small papers, he did it without any backing in the popular media. For those who lived through the era, he also essentially slayed the dragon of runaway inflation domestically. And he tried to save Social Security and would have succeeded were it not for the damned Dims spending all the money and writing IOU's to the Treasury.

Reagan faced the far greater challenge, IMO. This is not to say Bush is a failure. But the sheer magnitude of accompishment isn't even comparable.

Reagan should fairly be compared to presidents like FDR and Lincoln.
33 posted on 06/04/2006 3:07:37 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: tennmountainman

Gag me....

I bet if Free Republic had been around during Reagan's presidency there would have been as many, if not more posts like yours, about him...


34 posted on 06/04/2006 3:08:49 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Mo1

Thanks for the ping..Mo1!


35 posted on 06/04/2006 3:09:56 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Mo1

***Someone has been paying attention to history ping***

That's the problem with history, by the time we read it, it's too late. Too bad we can't get hold of a few history books from fifty years or so in the future. Maybe THAT would shut up the naysayers.

To all: PRAY for our brave President.


36 posted on 06/04/2006 3:12:01 PM PDT by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: tennmountainman
In some respects, Reagan can't hold a candle to President Bush!

The mythogrification of Reagan has reached the stage of demi-god...which is preposterous. How old were you when Reagan was president? Have you any idea as to how low Reagan's poll numbers were in his second term or how many "purist" conservatives were howling for his head, even during in his first term and saying that Reagan was "NO CONSERVATIVE" ?

And FWIW........Harry Truman, who most historians now claim was a fantastic president ( go figure ), had even lower favorable poll numbers.

37 posted on 06/04/2006 3:14:06 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nuconvert

From your lips to God's ears.


38 posted on 06/04/2006 3:16:20 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: Txsleuth
From Ron Paul:

We should heed the words of Ronald Reagan about his experience with a needless and mistaken military occupation of Lebanon. Sending troops into Lebanon seemed like a good idea in 1983, but in 1990 President Reagan said this in his memoirs:

"…we did not appreciate fully enough the depth of the hatred and complexity of the problems that made the Middle East such a jungle…In the weeks immediately after the bombing, I believed the last thing we should do was turn tail and leave…yet, the irrationality of Middle Eastern politics forced us to rethink our policy there."

39 posted on 06/04/2006 3:16:30 PM PDT by akron
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To: tennmountainman
He can't hold a candle to Reagan.

Actually, Reagan sowed the seeds of Muslim terrorism by not taking down Hezbollah after the murder of 240 Marines in Lebanon in 1983.

Bush has stood up to terrorism; in this, he is greater, by far, than Reagan.

40 posted on 06/04/2006 3:16:40 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: Txsleuth
Well.....Reagan actually signed an immigration amnesty bill, helping to give us the mess we have today. I still love what he did for our country.

Hopefully W will never get a chance to sign this fershlugginer Senate bill. If he does, I will like him a lot less, but like Reagan did with our Marxist "friends", W has done a great thing with the WOT.......

A leader against great odds.

41 posted on 06/04/2006 3:18:47 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Mo1
That the author of this piece has.

What a shame that the same types, who screamed about Reagan, when he was president, have now mythogrified him to such an extent, that accurate, factual history, is now not part of their memory/knowledge. Instead, we get post after post, about how Reagan was the ONLY conservative and how President Bush is so terrible. In ten years, these same people will be lauding President Bush and condemning everyone who follows him.

42 posted on 06/04/2006 3:19:21 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nuconvert

Early on (2000?), I kept hearing "Bush is stupid." I imagine you've heard this too. Is there anyone on the planet who hasn't? As I kept hearing that Bush was stupid, it made me think of Ronald Reagan. Only Reagan and Bush have gotten that level of "stupid" comments. Since Reagan was great, I thought, gee, if they hate GW Bush so, maybe there's hope.


43 posted on 06/04/2006 3:21:19 PM PDT by ChessExpert (MSM: America's one party press)
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To: nopardons

Ronald Reagan was truly "the Great Communicator".

George W. Bush is renowned for his consistent ability to mangle a phrase.

Ronald Reagan was saddled with a mostly Democrat majority in the Congress throughout his 2 terms, but still managed to push through a large portion of his conservative agenda...mainly by taking his case directly to the American people.

George W. Bush has largely been blessed with a Republican majority, but has failed to expend much political capital effectively except on behalf of policies that Teddy Kennedy and John McCain seem to love.


44 posted on 06/04/2006 3:22:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I'll believe in the efficacy of a "virtual fence" when they put one around the White House...)
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To: George W. Bush
We were up against nuclear-armed regimes who had diplomatic missions and well-funded intel agencies.

Hmm. And you think being up against potentially nuclear-armed, well-financed, pitied and pampered freelancers who are willing to go out with a bang is easier? The challenges are different to be sure, but this is certainly NOT easier.

45 posted on 06/04/2006 3:26:20 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: COEXERJ145

"President Bush will be well regarded by history"

It's good to know you will be among those writing those words about this great president.
Presidents achieve greatness on the world arena.

We may have differences with this president in regard to spending priorities, but I can't think of any president that has been historically downgraded because he spent too much - possibly LBJ.

As a historian perhaps you could explain how presidents are judged for greatness.


46 posted on 06/04/2006 3:26:56 PM PDT by A'elian' nation
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To: EternalVigilance; Howlin
Figures you would bring up the "Bush is an idiot since he can't speak" crap.

Go back to DU, LP, or whatever sewer you spawned from.

47 posted on 06/04/2006 3:27:38 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Every person has a photographic memory - but some don't have their flash card installed.)
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To: ChessExpert
If you EVER doubt how effective someone is...watch how he is treated by his opponents. Despite their caterwauling about him being stupid, wrong and ineffective, they are SCARED TO DEATH of the man.

If you want to see how close you are to the goal, you watch to see how freaked out your opponents are getting. We are getting pretty close.

Someday, I will be old and gray and people on this forum will be saying "Yeah, well, President Bush would NEVER have done that. He was a TRUE conservative."

And I will quietly laugh and be grateful for the wisdom that comes with age.
48 posted on 06/04/2006 3:30:46 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Mo1; nopardons; Miss Marple; DrDeb; kitkat; onyx; prairiebreeze; OldFriend; Peach
THANK YOU!!!!! SOMEONE knows history and GETS it!!

(Freeper naysayers...........are you paying ATTENTION??)

49 posted on 06/04/2006 3:31:21 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

You are completely nuts. He has gotten so much done it is breathtaking. Read that West Point speech, if you don't realize it. That is the real reason for his poll numbers. He has done so much, people want him to do everything they ever thought of. Heck, they've even reduced homeless by 30%!


50 posted on 06/04/2006 3:34:42 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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