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Carlsbad attorney critical of leaks in Marine probe-bastards who leaked should be hung
NC Times ^ | 6-6-06

Posted on 06/06/2006 4:45:00 PM PDT by SJackson

DAVID STERRETT and MARK WALKER - Staff Writers

CAMP PENDLETON -- A Carlsbad attorney blasted military officials Monday for leaking information about an ongoing investigation of 11 Camp Pendleton Marines and a Navy Corpsman for the alleged April 26 kidnapping and killing of an Iraq man.

David Brahms, who said he is representing one of the Marines under investigation, said the men from Kilo Company of the 3rd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment are being charged, sentenced and executed in the media because of reports from unnamed military sources.

"The bastards who leaked the information should be hung in a public square," said Brahms, who declined to identify his client. "My Marines are being thrown under the goddamn bus."

He said reports about the incident that took place in the village of Hamdania west of Baghdad are just speculation until the investigation is complete. Seven Marines and a Navy corpsman are being held in the brig and the four others are restricted to the base. The town had previously been misidentified by the military as "Hamandiya."

"I'm very angry," Brahms said of the confinement, adding he expects charges to come down in the next few days, and "we are just waiting to see what happens."

Military officials have declined to discuss pending investigations, but details of the incident have appeared in recent news reports.

Hashim Ibrahim Awad al-Zobaie was shot dead by Marines on April 26, according to reports from the Washington Post.

The newspaper reported family members and friends of the 52-year-old Iraqi said Marines took him from his home, shot him four times in the face and then planted an assault rifle and shovel next to his body.

But some of the Marines under investigation said in written statements that Hashim was digging a hole in an apparent attempt to place a roadside bomb and was killed after a brief gunbattle, according to the Post report.

The paper quoted family members of Hashim saying military officials tried to bribe them into saying that Hashim was an insurgent.

The military announced its investigation of the killing in Hamdania on May 25.

Haditha probe

The Naval Criminal Investigative Service also is investigating Marines from the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment for the alleged killing of 24 unarmed civilians on Nov. 19 in the town of Haditha. No charges have been filed in that case, which also involves Marines from that regiment's Kilo Company, and none are being held.

A probe of whether some Marine commanders attempted to cover up the Haditha incident is being conducted under the direction of U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Eldon Bargewell.

Attorneys last week said the fact that some Marines are in custody in the Hamdania case is indicative of possible fears of flight or collusion involving those being held.

Seven of the eight appeared before a magistrate to determine the appropriateness of the confinement and ultimately were ordered kept in the brig. The eighth is slated to appear before a magistrate sometime this week.

Robert Wities, a San Diego defense attorney and former Marine judge, said the service has not been confronted with such serious allegations since the 1968 My Lai massacre in Vietnam in which a U.S. Army unit killed more than 300 civilians.

"What strikes me about these cases are the fact they are so rare," Wities said, adding current military lawyers and judges have little or no experience with cases of the magnitude these could represent.

"It will be a new experience for everyone in the courtroom," Wities said. "There is no standard script."

At Camp Pendleton base spokesman, 2nd Lt. Lawton King, said Monday that he had no clear indication when, if any, charges will be filed. Last week, San Diego attorney Jeremiah Sullivan III said he was representing one of those in custody and that he anticipated homicide, conspiracy and kidnapping charges would be filed soon.

Sullivan declined to speak with a reporter when his office was contacted on Monday.

'Core values'

Marines around the country and in Iraq and Afghanistan are getting refresher courses in "core values" training at the direction of the Corps' commandant, Gen. Michael Hagee.

Hagee took that message to Iraq in May and was back at his Washington offices Monday.

Base spokesman King said Pendleton units have yet to receive the lessons.

"The training packages are being refined," King said.

Later in a written statement, King said: "The 1st Marine Division has reemphasized its Corps Values training and is directing more command attention to the small-unit leaders who in turn are in the best position to influence the Marines on the ground. In addition, the stress placed on the rules of engagement and law of armed conflict in the pre-deployment briefs will be formalized and reinforced by a new policy letter that is scheduled to take effect this month."

At the Marine Corps Combat Training Center at Twentynine Palms in the Mojave Desert, where most Marine units do final training before deploying, spokeswoman Lt. Christy Kercheval said Hagee will be at the Mojave desert base June 12 to drive the message home.

Marines and sailors there are routinely trained in the rules of engagement and "tactical cultural awareness," Kercheval said in a written statement.

In an indication of the growing demands on the public affairs office at Pendleton, Marine Lt. Col. Sean Gibson from the headquarters of U.S. Central Command at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Fla., is now at Pendleton to help oversee responses to reporters' questions.

The House and Senate Armed Services committees are scheduled to conduct hearings into the incidents later this month. The dates of those hearings and what ground each will cover has not yet been determined.


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I'm glad they have civilian attorneys.

It seems inappropriate for Congress to hold hearings until the charges have been dealt with.

1 posted on 06/06/2006 4:45:03 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

I agree. Hang the bastards in public.


2 posted on 06/06/2006 4:46:25 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant; Coop; freema; delacoert

Ping to a different case...but, disturbing, nonetheless.


3 posted on 06/06/2006 4:48:27 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: SJackson

"The bastards who leaked the information should be hung in a public square," said Brahms, who declined to identify his client. "My Marines are being thrown under the goddamn bus."

That's a plain spoken attorney!


4 posted on 06/06/2006 4:49:57 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: SJackson
Our troops do not deserve this.
By contrast, illegal aliens routinely get amnesty.

WE WANT AMNESTY FOR OUR TROOPS.
Our valiant soldiers should have sovereign immunity.

5 posted on 06/06/2006 4:50:40 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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I agree. Hang the bastards in public.

What if the Pentagon is directing the leaking?

6 posted on 06/06/2006 4:50:51 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: Coop

ping


7 posted on 06/06/2006 4:51:51 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: SJackson
"The bastards who leaked the information should be hung in a public square,"

I have to agree with this attorney and they should throw Murtha in for rendering his guilty verdict about the other Marines.

8 posted on 06/06/2006 4:52:35 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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I just LOVE how the stupid Congressweinies charge in and plan "hearings", before investigations are finished, charges are made (if any for one of the above incidents)...

Or there is a trial and a verdict...

Those hotdogs in Washington need to stay the heck out of this...and let the Marine Corps/Navy take care of it.


9 posted on 06/06/2006 4:53:15 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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What if the Pentagon is directing the leaking?

Courts-martial. I don't think anyone should actually be hung. But leaks in government should be dealt with.

10 posted on 06/06/2006 4:53:18 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: sinkspur

Then hang who authorized it.


11 posted on 06/06/2006 4:53:40 PM PDT by pissant
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To: SJackson
This whole media feeding frenzy directed against our fighting men and women is the single most sickening thing I can ever remember seeing in my short 43 years.

And I lived through both Bubba's and Peanut Jimmah's sorry administrations.

I'm so frustrated with this bullsh!t I just want to spit blood...

12 posted on 06/06/2006 4:54:01 PM PDT by liberty_lvr (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.)
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To: Txsleuth
Those hotdogs in Washington need to stay the heck out of this...and let the Marine Corps/Navy take care of it.

Hearings, and leaks, lesson the chance of justice being done.

13 posted on 06/06/2006 4:54:21 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: sinkspur

Good point. A means of going after Rumsfeld???


14 posted on 06/06/2006 4:55:27 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: Txsleuth

They are pathetic grandstanders of the worst kind. That goes for a large swath of the GOPers as well.


15 posted on 06/06/2006 4:56:51 PM PDT by pissant
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Exactly...and YET...Congress, EVEN the veterans like McCain, Warner, Graham....ALL seem to believe the WORST of our troops...

So...they automatically call for hearings...so they can show how unhappy and disturbed they are, for the whole world (voting pubic?) to see....


16 posted on 06/06/2006 4:58:12 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: pissant

Ditto!!!!!!!

I will buy the beer....heck, I don't even drink beer anymore.


17 posted on 06/06/2006 4:59:32 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: misterrob
A means of going after Rumsfeld???

A means of getting ahead of the bad news. It's a political strategy perfected by the Clinton's, and used by every branch of government since then. I don't think there's any question that these are planned leaks.

18 posted on 06/06/2006 5:00:23 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: Txsleuth

I don't feel bad about it, but if you recall the convictions of Ollie North we overturned essentially because of Congressional grandstanding. How can you have legitimate hearings without the testimony of the participants?


19 posted on 06/06/2006 5:00:53 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: sinkspur

Okay...are you saying they are leaking to soften the blow on THIS case, like you said they are trying to do on the Haditha case??


20 posted on 06/06/2006 5:00:56 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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