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Constitutional Amendment on Marriage Fails
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Posted on 06/07/2006 8:37:51 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh

Edited on 06/07/2006 11:34:52 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: BostonCreamPie
Also, I live in a state that has the dreaded "Gay Marriage," and so far the sky hasn't fallen. In fact, nobody even cares. We're all too worried about our taxes and the ridiculous costs of real estate.

Have you considered the possibility that those who attach importance to issues for reasons other than the immediate impact on their wallets might simply be more sophisticated and forward-thinking than you?

41 posted on 06/07/2006 9:04:33 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Siena Dreaming

"We are not all from Massachusetts"

So maybe you shouldn't try telling them what to do.


42 posted on 06/07/2006 9:05:11 AM PDT by notigar
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To: zarf

Let the states ban it individually and leave it alone on a national level.

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What was your opinion of the Supreme Court decision in Lawrence v Texas? I did not hear people saying that what was law in Texas should stay (or be overturned) in Texas. That was the Supreme Court ruling that has taken the issue of so-called same sex marriage away from the states' jurisdictions.


43 posted on 06/07/2006 9:05:26 AM PDT by maica (Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle --Abraham Lincoln)
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To: fhlh
leave this crap to the states.

Isn't there a problem with that? If Utah were to allow polygamy (which they got rid of in order to win statehood) and I lived in Provo and had seven wives, I'd be fine. Utah laws says I can.

What happens when I move to Texas?? Is my marriage recognized by my new home state?

It seems to me that leaving the definition of marriage to the states is a non-starter. This requires a national policy.

44 posted on 06/07/2006 9:05:28 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Without a monkey, "You are nothing, absolutely zero. Absolutely nothing.")
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To: BostonCreamPie
Also, I live in a state that has the dreaded "Gay Marriage,"?

Troll...

45 posted on 06/07/2006 9:05:41 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: andy58-in-nh
It's actually pretty interesting to watch our system in action. State gubmints overruled by fed courts. Fed courts challenged by fed legislature. fed courts overrule. fed legislature attemps to overrule fed courts. legislature overrules itself.

Liberal activism's most successful power source has been the courts (not counting the MSM and the educational system.) And notice also that Clarence Thomas may be the only justice truly willing to undo bad precedent. On a few moral issues, Scalia will do it, because it pleases him, but only Thomas is willing to go the whole way. And so the courts will go on, seemingly unchecked. A flaw in the system? Is there a systemic fix?

46 posted on 06/07/2006 9:06:07 AM PDT by Huck (Hey look, I'm still here.)
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To: zarf
What is discriminatory about preventing judges, especially Federal judges, from changing the plain meaning of words by fiat? Marriage by its nature is dependent on sexual complementarity. If it is not, then all traditional state marriage laws would, by definition be "discriminatory", and subject to litigation and judicial remedy.

With the volume of "same-sex" marriage litigation currently being pursued by gay groups, the ACLU, and others, I seriously doubt that the states could long resist the federal judiciary if it imposes "same-sex" marriage by decree.

47 posted on 06/07/2006 9:06:38 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: JimWforBush
I posted this link on another thread. I knew how this was going to come down before the vote. WE are being fed nothing but BS from the time we wake up till we go to sleep. Bush's speeches are nothing but hallow rhetoric to try and placate us. Who still believes what he says in his speeches?

US gay-rights groups claim victory after US switches vote in UN

48 posted on 06/07/2006 9:06:54 AM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: fhlh
ing ding... and we have a winner.

leave this crap to the states.

Spoken like someone who arrived in the middle of the conversation and just jumped right in.

50 posted on 06/07/2006 9:07:36 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: jwalsh07
John McCain is the political equivalent of the crossdresser.


51 posted on 06/07/2006 9:07:40 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Every person has a photographic memory... but some don't have their flash card installed.)
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To: notigar

Actually, they're trying to tell all of us what we should do...

The gay agenda is not a benign one...they are trying to change society all over the US.


52 posted on 06/07/2006 9:08:03 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: andy58-in-nh
Would someone please give McCain a change of political party card to fill out! Likewise with Spector.
53 posted on 06/07/2006 9:08:36 AM PDT by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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Post# 3 shows how they voted...

54 posted on 06/07/2006 9:08:57 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Constitutional Amendment on Marriage Fails

Good. It was a stupid idea.

56 posted on 06/07/2006 9:09:34 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: BostonCreamPie

In fact, nobody even cares.

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Have you seen the op-ed by Mitt Romney, where he states that agitators are now pressing for Parent A and Parent B on Birth Certificates? The words mother and father are "insensitive" to some.

He also states that parents may not opt their children out of learning about same-sex union as part of life in Mass when they are learning to read.

Why do you not care about the future of the American populace, and how they are being propagandized?


57 posted on 06/07/2006 9:10:04 AM PDT by maica (Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle --Abraham Lincoln)
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To: BostonCreamPie
"Also, I live in a state that has the dreaded "Gay Marriage," and so far the sky hasn't fallen.

The answer to that is so simple it shouldn't have to be said. This is the BEGINNING of it. The end product would be... you going to the store or the park with your son or daughter, and the gays would be so bold by that time they will be kissing in public on a regular basis.

Business owners as myself would be forced to honor their "spouses" insurance benefits and invite them to our Christmas parties while they hold hands at the gathering. If I don't hire them because I don't want to pay benefits to a "spouse" of the same sex.......I get the pants sued off me. Etc etc etc.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.

58 posted on 06/07/2006 9:10:17 AM PDT by Bassfan (No cheese please)
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To: BostonCreamPie

So you want to see marriage be an institution that is NOT recognized nationally? You can be married in MA, but not married in AZ?


60 posted on 06/07/2006 9:13:00 AM PDT by McGavin999
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