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Forensic specialists to examine al-Zarqawi
AP on Yahoo ^ | 6/10/06 | Patrick Quinn - ap

Posted on 06/10/2006 9:33:06 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The U.S. military flew in two forensic specialists Saturday to examine the remains of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi "to see how he actually died" and to reconstruct the last minutes of his life, a spokesman said.

The examination comes after U.S. authorities altered their initial account of the al-Qaida leader's death, first saying he died outright in a U.S. airstrike, then saying he survived but died soon after.

Also, an Iraqi man raised fresh questions, telling Associated Press Television News that he saw U.S. soldiers beating an injured man resembling al-Zarqawi until blood flowed from his nose.

Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, a spokesman for the U.S. military in Baghdad, said the decision to fly in forensic experts was made shortly after al-Zarqawi's death. The airstrike also killed five others, including al-Zarqawi's spiritual adviser, Sheik Abdul-Rahman.

"I think if we don't do a full autopsy then that might irresponsible on our part," Caldwell said. "I think we sort of owe that just for this reason: How did he actually die?"

He said the U.S. government thought it was important enough "that we grabbed two people in the last 48 hours and told them pack up and move to Iraq."

Asked about the claim that U.S. soldiers may have beaten al-Zarqawi after the attack, Caldwell said he would check. In Washington, Pentagon spokesman Jeffrey Gordon said Saturday he was unaware of the claim.

"We frequently receive allegations which prove to be unsubstantiated," Gordon said.

The Iraqi, identified only as Mohammed, said he lives near the house where al-Zarqawi was killed. He said residents put a bearded man in an ambulance before U.S. forces arrived.

"When the Americans arrived they took him out of the ambulance, they beat him on his stomach and wrapped his head with his dishdasha, then they stomped on his stomach and his chest until he died and blood came out of his nose," Mohammed said, without saying how he knew the man was dead.

A dishdasha is a traditional Arab robe.

A similar account in The Washington Post identified the man as Ahmed Mohammed.

No other witnesses have come forward to corroborate the account. U.S. officials have only said al-Zarqawi mumbled and tried to roll off a stretcher before dying.

In announcing al-Zarqawi's death, the U.S. military said Thursday that al-Zarqawi was killed outright when two 500-pound bombs were dropped on his hideout. On Friday, the military said al-Zarqawi survived the bombing, which ripped a crater in the date-palm forest where the house was nestled just outside Baqouba, 35 miles northeast of Baghdad.

"It's not going to be 100 percent accurate all the time, but the first reports are going to be a little confused. There are going to be some conflicting stories," Caldwell said, adding that the military should have an accurate chronology ready by Monday.

He said Iraqi police reached the scene first and found the 39-year-old al-Zarqawi alive.

"The coalition forces arrived on the scene. The Iraqi police were there. They in fact saw a person on a stretcher. They moved to that person immediately. A medical person started immediately applying first aid to that person. Another person was trying to talk to that person, to try to identify who this was. They were trying to talk to him and ask him who he was," Caldwell said.

The airstrike killed two other men, two women and girl between the ages of 5 and 7 who were in the house.

APTN footage of the scene showed a wide swath of destruction.

Debris — shoes, sandals, a woman's slip — was scattered over concrete blocks and twisted metal. Trees were ripped from their roots. Charred dresses, torn blankets, thin sponge mattresses and pillows were the crater blasted by the bombs. A cooling unit and part of a washing machine also were in the area.

Lt. Col. Thomas Fisher of the 1st Battalion, 68th Armored Cavalry said his men showed up at the site about five minutes after the blast and cordoned it off. He said they had a patrol in the area already.

"We didn't know it was Zarqawi, we just knew it was a time-sensitive target," he said at the scene early Saturday. "We suspected who it was."

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Associated Press writer Ryan Lenz contributed to this report.


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1 posted on 06/10/2006 9:33:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Who cares how he died? He's dead - just cremate him and scatter his ashes to the four winds!

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

2 posted on 06/10/2006 9:34:07 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge

Can they do some DNA analysis on the lingerie as well?


3 posted on 06/10/2006 9:34:38 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The airstrike also killed five others, including al-Zarqawi's spiritual adviser, Sheik Abdul-Rahman.

What the hell is being a 'spiritual advisor' to a psychopathic lunatic like Zarkawi supposed to mean??

4 posted on 06/10/2006 9:36:28 PM PDT by tomzz
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh here we go... I'm sure a piece of his skull will end up filed next to Hitler's in the KGB archives.


5 posted on 06/10/2006 9:36:38 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: goldstategop

I have a better idea...cremate him, then bury his ashes in a pigsty.


6 posted on 06/10/2006 9:38:28 PM PDT by JRios1968 (There's 3 kinds of people in this world...those who know math and those who don't.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Once they empty his chest cavity to weigh the organs they can shove an American football in there.

L

7 posted on 06/10/2006 9:38:42 PM PDT by Lurker ("They still see you as the infidel, the other, and they'll still kill you. " Mark Steyn)
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To: NormsRevenge

There may be intelligence to gain from the body itself too.
Never know. Every corpse has a story.


8 posted on 06/10/2006 9:40:20 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: NormsRevenge

Earlier today this guy's name was Mohammed Ahmed. Now, the Washington Post has identified the man as Ahmed Mohammed. Still, his word is more credible to these leftist rags than that of the U.S. Marines. What a bunch of Commies.


9 posted on 06/10/2006 9:40:54 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS! America's Lynch Mob.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I think they will find that he had blew eyes: one blew this way and one blew that way...


10 posted on 06/10/2006 9:41:01 PM PDT by Migraine (...diversity is great (until it happens to you)...)
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To: NormsRevenge

"they beat him on his stomach and wrapped his head with his dishdasha,"


Dear Associated Press,

That's called wrapping his head wound and performing CPR, you numbskulls.


11 posted on 06/10/2006 9:41:32 PM PDT by saquin
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To: Names Ash Housewares

That's what I'm thinking.


12 posted on 06/10/2006 9:42:24 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: NormsRevenge

They should let it be known that he is not going to heaven, as he will be buried in pigs blood when the military are finished with him.


13 posted on 06/10/2006 9:43:35 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: NormsRevenge

He's dead.


14 posted on 06/10/2006 9:43:46 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: tomzz
"What the hell is being a 'spiritual advisor' to a psychopathic lunatic like Zarkawi supposed to mean??"
Advising on which spirits to consume, when, and with which food.
15 posted on 06/10/2006 9:44:11 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: NormsRevenge
Asked about the claim that U.S. soldiers may have beaten al-Zarqawi after the attack, Caldwell said he would check.

The correct response to that absurd question was, "Are you still doing drugs?"

16 posted on 06/10/2006 9:44:19 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS! America's Lynch Mob.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I almost hope it's proved that he was alive after the blast and our soldiers beat him to death.

I want to see Pelosi and Reid out there saying they want an investigation into the soldiers who risked their lives for us.

I want to see Howard Dean calling President Bush corrupt for killing a terrorist and "his spiritual advisor in their home."

I want to see GLAAD bitching about George Bush killing a transgendered freedom fighter in his "illegal war for oil".

I want to see Hillary Clinton say "You know, you never saw terrorists getting blown up during the Clinton Administration"...and she'd be telling the truth.

I want to see Chris Matthews' ragged expression as he shakes his head and talks with disgust about "This Administration..." and his ten millionth reminder that he was in the Peace Corps., and how Zarqawi was "not even a player" in Al Qaeda, and where is UBL?

I want to see that smirking idiot Olberman opening his stupid show with the FIFTH story (what a moronic gimmick)--"IMPEACHMENT, or, does a President have the right to kill accused criminals without Miranda, without a legal representative, without his day in court?"

And of course DU would set the record for use of the word "but" in their posts--"I'm not saying I support Zarawi, BUT..."

If it turned out our troops eliminated an enemy in a war, I want to be there, watching all the liberals' heads explode OR watch them slice their own throats in November by saying what they REALLY think.

17 posted on 06/10/2006 9:45:00 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Lurker

LOL! Had me a pulled-pork sandwich in celebration of Dead-Zarqawi Day. The bbq was especially fine that day.


18 posted on 06/10/2006 9:46:19 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

here we go again, bet the MSM is gonna be all over this, allegations troops beat this animal to death. Give me a break


19 posted on 06/10/2006 9:47:31 PM PDT by World_Events
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To: NormsRevenge

May Murtha will come up with a "magic 500 lb bomb" theory.


20 posted on 06/10/2006 9:47:36 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (No.... wire .... hangers!)
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